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Old 01-01-2009, 03:42 AM   #21
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Thats one awesome review,iam saving that one thank you.When it all said in done i don't care how long a movie takes to load i just want the best PQ and sound i can get out of a player.

What are you useing for a reciever

Really thanks for the review
Nothing, as of yet. Well except the built in one included with my TV. But that's going as soon as I can collect enough money to pass go, and get my system up and running.

I attended a "review" where all sorts of players were tested for all sorts of features, and the Pio sounded best to me, through what was being used. It was a sum of some receivers, amps, speakers, etc. "donated" for the review. I feel my choice in BR players was validated and I cannot wait to get 5.1 going.

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Old 01-01-2009, 03:54 AM   #22
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Nothing, as of yet. Well except the built in one included with my TV. But that's going as soon as I can collect enough money to pass go, and get my system up and running.

I attended a "review" where all sorts of players were tested for all sorts of features, and the Pio sounded best to me, through what was being used. It was a sum of some receivers, amps, speakers, etc. "donated" for the review. I feel my choice in BR players was validated and I cannot wait to get 5.1 going.
Go back one comment i asked you a couple of questions

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Old 01-01-2009, 04:19 AM   #23
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If it just came down to looks i say Yamaha.
The bigger players remind me of the First DVD players or that Laser disk player i have in the closet. Remember those Beta Players WOW!
We all know in time they will be smaller in height

Yamaha i think caught this.Iam just saying

Oh buy the way Happy New Years,

Married with four boys this is what i do now LOL
Married with 2 girls..... this is what I do now.... sit in front of the comp and drink diet 7up... lol, I think I will go outside and have a cigar and some Lambruco (very good red wine).... by myself... lol

Happy New Year Brother....
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Old 01-01-2009, 04:30 AM   #24
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Married with 2 girls..... this is what I do now.... sit in front of the comp and drink diet 7up... lol, I think I will go outside and have a cigar and some Lambruco (very good red wine).... by myself... lol

Happy New Year Brother....
Happy new years,iam drinking milk and eating crackers and cheese,Iam still cool right, callas01 LOL

All my boy's are upstairs playing ROCKBAND and my wife is sleeping.

That right iam a wild and crazy guy LOL

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Old 01-01-2009, 09:59 AM   #25
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I like Pionner for P/Q & A/Q and it match my Elite A/V 09. I had marantz A/v bafor my Pioneer and Marantz make a good product.The onty Yamaha I own is a YZ250 motocrooss bike,all 3 player are about the same.If the YAMAHA BD-S2900 match your YAMAHA A/V. I would keep the money down on it.
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Old 01-01-2009, 10:05 AM   #26
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I had Pionner, Sony & Pana Blu-Ray player,and all the player had freez problem,Sony S500 being the worse.Pioneer fix my elite 95
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:01 PM   #27
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Nope. Better parts = better weight. That in no way affects performance at all.

Until you have seen the Pio in person, I wouldn't judge otherwise.
Not true. I purchased a Sony ES cd player. It turned out to be nothing but a standard Sony CD player with a heavy plate installed in the bottom cover. They also added a beautify metal facade. It was designed to influence my perception of quality.

Even if the Pio is as much better as you say, he will have difficulty seeing the difference on the type of equipment he has. I think the money would be better spend upgrading other areas of his HT.

I know he has a concern with warrantys. But look at it this way, he can buy 2 or 3 Sony's oe Panny's for the price of that Pio.
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:37 PM   #28
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Nope. Better parts = better weight. That in no way affects performance at all.

Until you have seen the Pio in person, I wouldn't judge otherwise.
Not true. I purchased a Sony ES cd player. It turned out to be nothing but a standard Sony CD player with a heavy plate installed in the bottom cover. They also added a beautify metal facade. It was designed to influence my perception of quality.

Even if the Pio is as much better as you say, he will have difficulty seeing the difference on the type of equipment he has. I think the money would be better spend upgrading other areas of his HT.

I know he has a concern with warrantys. But look at it this way, he can buy 2 or 3 Sony's or Panny's for the price of that Pio.
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:29 PM   #29
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With what you have and price your are looking for I would get the Yamaha. I've owned Yamaha audio for 27 years and will buy again one day.
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Old 01-01-2009, 04:50 PM   #30
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With what you have and price your are looking for I would get the Yamaha. I've owned Yamaha audio for 27 years and will buy again one day.
I love Yamaha as well

Two days ago i called Yamaha Canada and told them i was buying the BD-2900 and i wanted the latest firmware.
They put me in to tech.
The gentleman told me he didn't know nothing about this player.i TOLD HIM I WANTED THE FIRMWARE BURNT AND TO MAIL IT TO ME.

He told me he didn't know if he could do this and he might lose his job.
I asked him if there was a site i could burn firmware.

He told me its a possibility that i would have to mail the player into them to install firmware.I said WTF.

Then i realized this gentleman absolutely knew Nothing about the product and it's been out for 3 months. Not cool.

He told me to call back on the 5th because nobody knew what to do and the supervisor with be in at that date.

I Was thinking that there has been no new firmware up dates yet because of the unit being so new.
But you would think one of there employees would have SOME info on this player

After the phone call i started questioning the support for this player and rightly so.
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:31 PM   #31
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I love Yamaha as well

Two days ago i called Yamaha Canada and told them i was buying the BD-2900 and i wanted the latest firmware.
They put me in to tech.
The gentleman told me he didn't know nothing about this player.i TOLD HIM I WANTED THE FIRMWARE BURNT AND TO MAIL IT TO ME.

He told me he didn't know if he could do this and he might lose his job.
I asked him if there was a site i could burn firmware.

He told me its a possibility that i would have to mail the player into them to install firmware.I said WTF.

Then i realized this gentleman absolutely knew Nothing about the product and it's been out for 3 months. Not cool.

He told me to call back on the 5th because nobody knew what to do and the supervisor with be in at that date.

I Was thinking that there has been no new firmware up dates yet because of the unit being so new.
But you would think one of there employees would have SOME info on this player

After the phone call i started questioning the support for this player and rightly so.
The nice thing about Sony is they are really on the ball with firmware updates.
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:41 PM   #32
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The nice thing about Sony is they are really on the ball with firmware updates.
I decided to just call Yamaha in the States Finally i got some Answerer's( Yamaha Canada should get their sh*t together.)

There is no firmware out for the BDS-2900.You register your player on line and when new firmware comes out they send you a e-mail.I would have two choices.

1) burn it from the site they place the firmware on
2)call them and they will burn it and mail it out

That's what i thought but when i talked to dumb ass at Yamaha Canada and he told me i might have to mail it out,There's no doubt i had to find answers .
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:31 PM   #33
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Happy New Year Ozzman!

I am biased because I love Yamaha period. The BD S2900 is the right one. It matches your Yamaha 3800 receiver too making a nice looking addition to your audio equipment rack. The Marantz as a second choice looks promising to me. In particular it has an interesting feature:

...the BD7003 outputs 1080p video signals at either 24 or 30 full frames per second. This feature makes it the ideal source when you’re using compatible display devices such as our VP-11S1, VP-11S2, and VP-15S1 front projectors. And it avoids the inevitable compromises that the standard 3:2 pulldown process inflicts on every film-based movie.

Since BDs are recorded 24 fps, to output 30 fps, the BD7003 still has to convert it. But if it really reduces the judder that 3:2 pulldown process inflicts, it would seem like there has to be more advanced circuitry employed which makes me skeptical at this price that there can be. I didn't read any reviews. But I would if I were really considering to buy it. Still very interesting though.
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Happy New Year Ozzman!

I am biased because I love Yamaha period. The BD S2900 is the right one. It matches your Yamaha 3800 receiver too making a nice looking addition to your audio equipment rack. The Marantz as a second choice looks promising to me. In particular it has an interesting feature:

...the BD7003 outputs 1080p video signals at either 24 or 30 full frames per second. This feature makes it the ideal source when you’re using compatible display devices such as our VP-11S1, VP-11S2, and VP-15S1 front projectors. And it avoids the inevitable compromises that the standard 3:2 pulldown process inflicts on every film-based movie.

Since BDs are recorded 24 fps, to output 30 fps, the BD7003 still has to convert it. But if it really reduces the judder that 3:2 pulldown process inflicts, it would seem like there has to be more advanced circuitry employed which makes me skeptical at this price that there can be. I didn't read any reviews. But I would if I were really considering to buy it. Still very interesting though.



Happy New Years to you My friend

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Old 01-01-2009, 09:01 PM   #35
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Not true. I purchased a Sony ES cd player. It turned out to be nothing but a standard Sony CD player with a heavy plate installed in the bottom cover. They also added a beautify metal facade. It was designed to influence my perception of quality.
Hmm.. When I purchased my ES CDP, it was an outstanding unit, and wasn't even remotely close to a "standard Sony CDP". Maybe I have more sensitive hearing..

No vibration problems, solid connections, excellent quality CD drive, etc. etc. I am very pleased with my ES model.


Usually, the heavier the unit, the better quality parts, but on a few instances that is not the case. Furthermore, I don't recall coming along a product that had a solid weight, and sounded/looked horrible.
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Marantz 7002- 16.09 pounds W x H x D----17-13/8" X 3-1/4" x 15-34"

Pioneer 05FD- 12.9 pounds W x H X D-----16.54" x 4.89" x 14.18 "

Yamaha 2900- 12.81 pounds W x H x D----17-1/8 "x 3 3/4 "x 13-15/16"

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Marantz 7002- 16.09 pounds W x H x D----17-13/8" X 3-1/4" x 15-34"

Pioneer 05FD- 12.9 pounds W x H X D-----16.54" x 4.89" x 14.18 "

Yamaha 2900- 12.81 pounds W x H x D----17-1/8 "x 3 3/4 "x 13-15/16"
Obviously the Marantz has the heaviest steel plate in the bottom.
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Obviously the Marantz has the heaviest steel plate in the bottom.
If you do the math with H X W X H,Which iam not willing to do LOL It looks like Marantz has roughly two to three pounds on the other units ,but are still very close together
But Marantz does win for the heaviest unit

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Buy the Yamaha it match your A/V.For me I would buy the Elite BDP-05FD it match my Elite A/V.All 3 player are good,this do it and buy the YAMALA BDS-2900
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Buy the Yamaha it match your A/V.For me I would buy the Elite BDP-05FD it match my Elite A/V.All 3 player are good,this do it and buy the YAMALA BDS-2900
Iam 90% sure that i will grab the Yamaha but at the same token this has been turning out to be a interesting thread.

These three players hav'nt been talked about together and i know iam not the only one thats been looking at these three.

Some good opinions have been flying around here and for myself, i've been learning more about what people think of some of these player which is simply amazing

Great stuff

I just want to add ive been looking into the Realta chip and the 7002 .
I can't find any info on it.
It's for sure in the 8002 model but i don't think it's in the 7002 model but i could be wrong

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