Question - Force Awakens in 4K? - Blu-ray Forum

BluBonnet · 01-15-2018, 02:14 PM

So, the movie is currently only available in regular HD.... Has Disney said anything about when the 4k version may become available?

And if someone has the HD version on iTunes, is it safe to assume it will automatically be upgraded?

-Gonzo- · 01-15-2018, 02:38 PM

Disney are not supporting iTunes in 4K so that would be a no as it currently stands.

master gandhi · 01-15-2018, 05:27 PM

It’s safer to assume that if a 4K becomes available, you’ll need to buy it on VUDU.

strife1013 · 01-15-2018, 05:42 PM

The Last Jedi will be 4k on Vudu, but iTunes doesn't get 4k Disney treatment until a deal is done. Hopefully this year it does.

BluBonnet · 01-15-2018, 07:32 PM

Thanks for the answers! I'm in here almost every day and still didn't realize Disney hasn't got a deal with Apple for 4k...

ChipmunksDad · 08-05-2018, 03:00 PM

Disney is really dropping the ball on this. They’re printing money and they’re worried about a couple of bucks delta between HD and UHD. GTFO Disney.

steve_dave · 08-05-2018, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChipmunksDad

Disney is really dropping the ball on this. They’re printing money and they’re worried about a couple of bucks delta between HD and UHD. GTFO Disney.

No, they are not.

The Walt Disney Company has their own streaming platform coming in the next year or two with their own box to go with it. This platform will offer 4K streaming and Disney already has many more films prepared in 4K for the launch.

Rather than just a singular revenue stream, they can have a perpetual revenue stream as consumers can pay $10 a month (estimate) to stream 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, The Greatest Showman, Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs, and Armageddon in 4K. And of course the HD debuts (in the US) for A Lot Like Love, While You Were Sleeping, and What About Bob. Then Disney will supplement that stream with their cut from Hulu for Die Hard, Alien: Covenant, and Deadpool 2.

The Godfather · 08-05-2018, 11:41 PM

Not everyone will want streaming since not everyone has good internet service. Besides physical Media UHD will always be better than streaming UHD. So if Disney was smart provide both Physical and Streaming to maximize sales. Especially if people end up cancelling out their streaming because they aren’t happy with quality of streaming. So yes Disney is dropping the ball. Besides monthly payment doesn’t mean u own a copy of a film especially if they decide to change their lineup every so often and u wouldn’t be able to watch a certain film anytime u want. While Physical Media you would own a copy of the film.

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

No, they are not.

The Walt Disney Company has their own streaming platform coming in the next year or two with their own box to go with it. This platform will offer 4K streaming and Disney already has many more films prepared in 4K for the launch.

Rather than just a singular revenue stream, they can have a perpetual revenue stream as consumers can pay $10 a month (estimate) to stream 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, The Greatest Showman, Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs, and Armageddon in 4K. And of course the HD debuts (in the US) for A Lot Like Love, While You Were Sleeping, and What About Bob. Then Disney will supplement that stream with their cut from Hulu for Die Hard, Alien: Covenant, and Deadpool 2.

steve_dave · 08-06-2018, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Godfather

Not everyone will want streaming since not everyone has good internet service. Besides physical Media UHD will always be better than streaming UHD. So if Disney was smart provide both Physical and Streaming to maximize sales. Especially if people end up cancelling out their streaming because they aren’t happy with quality of streaming. So yes Disney is dropping the ball. Besides monthly payment doesn’t mean u own a copy of a film especially if they decide to change their lineup every so often and u wouldn’t be able to watch a certain film anytime u want. While Physical Media you would own a copy of the film.

We aren’t talking about physical versus digital here. The original question was whether The Force Awakens would be available in digital 4K. I was responding to a poster who said Disney was dropping the ball by offering a premium price tag to 4K digital products.

ChipmunksDad · 08-18-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

We aren’t talking about physical versus digital here. The original question was whether The Force Awakens would be available in digital 4K. I was responding to a poster who said Disney was dropping the ball by offering a premium price tag to 4K digital products.

Yeah, that’s forward thinking. Another box.

Cinematt · 08-18-2018, 06:40 PM

So if they really wanted to milk Apple customers they'd sell 4K content to them now and then drop a 4K subscription service Apple TV app. People would have bought a load of things but they'd still subscribe for everything else.

In the UK we don't have kudu or movies anywhere, so there's no (legal) way to get this stuff digitally. And when that happens lots of people steal. Not advocating it, but it's a fact, so maybe Disney have a strategy but there's always people willing to spend money on the same stuff in a different package so if you have a way to sell it now sell it now, and let marketing worry about how to sell it again in a few years. They've had people upgrading Disney classics and Star Wars through VHS, laserdisc, DVD, BD, and UHD, in god knows how many remasters and special editions, they shouldn't worry about it.

ManOfTheForest · 08-19-2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

No, they are not.

The Walt Disney Company has their own streaming platform coming in the next year or two with their own box to go with it. This platform will offer 4K streaming and Disney already has many more films prepared in 4K for the launch.

Rather than just a singular revenue stream, they can have a perpetual revenue stream as consumers can pay $10 a month (estimate) to stream 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, The Greatest Showman, Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs, and Armageddon in 4K. And of course the HD debuts (in the US) for A Lot Like Love, While You Were Sleeping, and What About Bob. Then Disney will supplement that stream with their cut from Hulu for Die Hard, Alien: Covenant, and Deadpool 2.

I hadn't heard that there was going to be device too.

Since reading this post I've been searching Google for information but I can't find any. What was the box announced and do you have a link to any details?

And does this mean there won't be a tvOS app?

steve_dave · 08-19-2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfTheForest

I hadn't heard that there was going to be device too.

Since reading this post I've been searching Google for information but I can't find any. What was the box announced and do you have a link to any details?

And does this mean there won't be a tvOS app?

Geek.com

ManOfTheForest · 08-19-2018, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

Geek.com

Video

Cheers.

Do you think Disney will do an apps for AppleTV, iOS, etc. too ?

EDIT: It seems that device was a prototype that Snakebyte was hoping to interest Disney in and nothing to wnd ith Disney. I think the rep was just enthusiastic and didn't explain properly https://www.gamespot.com/articles/th.../1100-6446723/

01-15-2018, 02:14 PM	#1
BluBonnet Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Trading Score:1	Question - Force Awakens in 4K? So, the movie is currently only available in regular HD.... Has Disney said anything about when the 4k version may become available? And if someone has the HD version on iTunes, is it safe to assume it will automatically be upgraded?

01-15-2018, 02:38 PM	#2
-Gonzo- Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 Blu-ray collection:287 DVD collection:64 MA collection:11 iTunes collection:1253 Trading Score:7	Disney are not supporting iTunes in 4K so that would be a no as it currently stands.

01-15-2018, 05:27 PM	#3
master gandhi Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2013 Location:United States Trading Score:1	It’s safer to assume that if a 4K becomes available, you’ll need to buy it on VUDU.

01-15-2018, 05:42 PM	#4
strife1013 Member Member since:Dec 2017 Location:Little Rock, AR Trading Score:51	The Last Jedi will be 4k on Vudu, but iTunes doesn't get 4k Disney treatment until a deal is done. Hopefully this year it does.

01-15-2018, 07:32 PM	#5
BluBonnet Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Trading Score:1	Thanks for the answers! I'm in here almost every day and still didn't realize Disney hasn't got a deal with Apple for 4k...

08-05-2018, 03:00 PM	#6
ChipmunksDad Active Member Member since:Mar 2010 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- iTunes collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1	Disney is really dropping the ball on this. They’re printing money and they’re worried about a couple of bucks delta between HD and UHD. GTFO Disney.

08-18-2018, 06:40 PM	#11
Cinematt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2015 4K collection:91 Blu-ray collection:906 DVD collection:47 iTunes collection:484	So if they really wanted to milk Apple customers they'd sell 4K content to them now and then drop a 4K subscription service Apple TV app. People would have bought a load of things but they'd still subscribe for everything else. In the UK we don't have kudu or movies anywhere, so there's no (legal) way to get this stuff digitally. And when that happens lots of people steal. Not advocating it, but it's a fact, so maybe Disney have a strategy but there's always people willing to spend money on the same stuff in a different package so if you have a way to sell it now sell it now, and let marketing worry about how to sell it again in a few years. They've had people upgrading Disney classics and Star Wars through VHS, laserdisc, DVD, BD, and UHD, in god knows how many remasters and special editions, they shouldn't worry about it.

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