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Old 01-03-2009, 02:47 AM   #1
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hey guys on a few blu ray movies ive notice that sometimes in some scenes the actors/actresses have like a "glow" surrounding them, it almost looks like the predator when he goes in stealth mode.. its like a weird looking hollogram.. im fairly new to blu and obvioulsy dont have all the answers.. i was wondering if you guys can help me out with this.. is it the movie itself? my tv? my blu ray player?

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Old 01-03-2009, 02:50 AM   #2
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Not sure at all what you mean by this, but it could be the 120 hz on your tv if you have that. Sometimes you get a glow with the 120 hz on televisions. And some have complained that it makes the image look too life like while others may enjoy it. Depends on your particular taste.
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Not sure at all what you mean by this, but it could be the 120 hz on your tv if you have that. Sometimes you get a glow with the 120 hz on televisions. And some have complained that it makes the image look too life like while others may enjoy it. Depends on your particular taste.
i do keep my 120hz on high but i dont think thats it.. some movies dont present it at all.. but some do.. i guess maybe another example would be it looks like when the heat from the sun hits pavement and gives off heat waves in a glossy look.. like a mirage in the desert, except now it has that look glowing off characters.. im watching dark knight now and ive notice it in the scene where gordon walks outside to look at the bad guy batman left at the stoop for him with the note on his chest.. and i just finished watching 50 first dates and ive notice it a bunch of times in a lot of scenes..
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:03 AM   #4
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Sounds like you might be seeing edge enhancement? What movies are you seeing this in? Nevermind I just read your post.

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Sounds like you might be seeing edge enhancement? What movies are you seeing this in?
dark knight, man on fire, 50 first dates... so far ive noticed it in those movies and picked it up right away
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:09 AM   #6
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Hmmmm, you mind if I ask what kind of setup you're running? Screen size?
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Hmmmm, you mind if I ask what kind of setup you're running? Screen size?
40 inch samsung 120hz LCD.. its the new red resloution one they just came out with i believe it is the 750 series.. and im running that with a 1000 hdmi monster cable to my sony 550 blu ray player.. im currently moving into a new house and i havent set up my receiver to it yet or cable box.. but as of now its the tv to the blu ray player with the 120hz on high and 1000 hdmi monster
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:25 AM   #8
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40 inch samsung 120hz LCD.. its the new red resloution one they just came out with i believe it is the 750 series.. and im running that with a 1000 hdmi monster cable to my sony 550 blu ray player.. im currently moving into a new house and i havent set up my receiver to it yet or cable box.. but as of now its the tv to the blu ray player with the 120hz on high and 1000 hdmi monster
I believe some Samsung LCD's have an edge enhancement setting either on or off. Not sure if yours has one but if so try turning it to off.

When you talk about seeing a glow around characters or objects it seems as if you're referring to edge enhancement. However, for most people if you don't tell them that there's edge enhancement in the picture they'll never notice it. That's why it seems strange that that it would be so noticable in your description unless you just have eagle eyes and have a knack at noticing things that are out of place.

Here's a link that will give you an idea of what I'm talking about.

http://www.videophile.info/Guide_EE/Page_01.htm
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I believe some Samsung LCD's have an edge enhancement setting either on or off. Not sure if yours has one but if so try turning it to off.

When you talk about seeing a glow around characters or objects it seems as if you're referring to edge enhancement. However, for most people if you don't tell them that there's edge enhancement in the picture they'll never notice it. That's why it seems strange that that it would be so noticable in your description unless you just have eagle eyes and have a knack at noticing things that are out of place.

Here's a link that will give you an idea of what I'm talking about.

http://www.videophile.info/Guide_EE/Page_01.htm
ha yea man its on i just turned it off.. hopefully it makes a difference.. i do have good sight but no eagle eyes here..
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ha yea man its on i just turned it off.. hopefully it makes a difference.. i do have good sight but no eagle eyes here..
Try watching the same scenes again and see if you still have the same problem. Keep in mind if it is edge enhancement it's not going away but maybe turning off the edge enhancement will make it less noticable. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=DeeChizzle;1462454]Try watching the same scenes again and see if you still have the same problem. Keep in mind if it is edge enhancement it's not going away but maybe turning off the edge enhancement will make it less noticable. Good luck.[/QU

would you personally keep the edge enhancement on or off on you tv? i mean im sitting pretty close to my tv because their is no furniture in my house yet and i just sit pretty much on top of the tv? i love how the 120hz looks, do you think by keeping off the edge enhancement it will take away from that?

that article is very helpful but its the ultimate guide to edge enhancement for DVD not blu ray? does this matter or no?
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Not all tv's have an edge enhancement feature, but if mine had one I'd keep it off. Most videophiles would agree with me, it's not necessary.

120hz and the edge enhancement feature have nothing to do with each other. One is dealing with frame rate and the other is dealing with artificial edge enhancement.

Viewing distance is really personal preference but with your screen size I'd say the optimum distance is around 10ft but anywhere between 5 to 10 feet should be fine. The fact you're sitting so close is probably another reason you're seeing edge enhancement if in fact that is what you're seeing.

That link can apply to either DVD or Blu-Ray because EE can be applied to both formats.

Also try and minimize the sharpness setting on your TV, meaning don't set it so high.

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Not all tv's have an edge enhancement feature, but if mine had one I'd keep it off. Most videophiles would agree with me, it's not necessary.

120hz and the edge enhancement feature have nothing to do with each other. One is dealing with frame rate and the other is dealing with artificial edge enhancement.

Viewing distance is really personal preference but with your screen size I'd say the optimum distance is around 10ft but anywhere between 5 to 10 feet should be fine. The fact you're sitting so close is probably another reason you're seeing edge enhancement if in fact that is what you're seeing.

That link can apply to either DVD or Blu-Ray because EE can be applied to both formats.

Also try and minimize the sharpness setting on your TV, meaning don't set it so high.


minimizing the sharpness you mean the 120hz? should i change it to medium... and another question do i have to change my picture settings. or whatever its on already is fine..

thanks again
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:41 AM   #14
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No the 120hz feature has nothing to do with sharpness either. 120hz feature just means that your TV has a display rate of 120 frames per second.

Most people tend to set the sharpness setting too high believing that they're getting the best possible picture when in actuality they're not.

Picture settings do matter when you're talking about having the best possible viewing experience. If this is important to you than I'd invest in a calibration blu-ray or use one of the blu-rays that has a calibration tool to help you calibrate your T.V.
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No the 120hz feature has nothing to do with sharpness either. 120hz feature just means that your TV has a display rate of 120 frames per second.

Most people tend to set the sharpness setting too high believing that they're getting the best possible picture when in actuality they're not.

Picture settings do matter when you're talking about having the best possible viewing experience. If this is important to you than I'd invest in a calibration blu-ray or use one of the blu-rays that has a calibration tool to help you calibrate your T.V.



even though my tv is brand new i still new to calibrate? and what do you mean a calibration blu-ray, i thought you can only calibrate the tv no the blu ray? damn im confused..

sorry if im driving you nuts with the 50 questions
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even though my tv is brand new i still new to calibrate? and what do you mean a calibration blu-ray, i thought you can only calibrate the tv no the blu ray? damn im confused..

sorry if im driving you nuts with the 50 questions
Of course you can watch any TV out of the box but that doesn't mean it's been calibrated to your viewing environment.

The calibration blu-ray I was referring to was one like this....(I've never used this one)

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1076..._hdbasics.html

There are some blu-rays that have a generic calibration tool like Ratatouille and Casino Royale. Either one of these are sufficient ways to calibrate your T.V. without having to spend top $$$$.

Basically you just load the disc and follow the directions. It will guide you through how to set your contrast, color, tint, etc. based on your viewing environment.
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:33 PM   #17
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Try setting your sharpness to about 20. I have a Samsung and have found that to work nicely. Also, you should look for a calibration disc and adjust the settings to a more reasonable one than those presets they have. A properly adjusted television will work wonders.
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