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Havok83 · 04-01-2018, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarface32

That’s only because it was the last one they made. As technology improves, things get better. If the Dreamcast was never made, people would be saying the same thing about the Saturn.

No, has it not been made, I would have said the Genesis was. It’s false logic to just say a console that comes later is better than what cane before bc that’s not always the case

Scarface32 · 04-02-2018, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Havok83

No, has it not been made, I would have said the Genesis was. It’s false logic to just say a console that comes later is better than what cane before bc that’s not always the case

The graphical fidelity of the Saturn is better than the Genesis.

Havok83 · 04-02-2018, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Opips3

Yet Capcom lazy... arcade port to Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection!!!

Would not use a console customize exclusive all characters
For as examples a console some like PlayStation or Sega Saturn

Arcade port to Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection will this

Its not a lazy port and its too soon for anyone to make that claim validly without playing it.It sucks that the console additions are absent but this is an Arcade collection and perfect for what they are promoting it as

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarface32

The graphical fidelity of the Saturn is better than the Genesis.

Okay, and? Consoles are more than graphics. Id say the SNES was a better console than the N64 and I feel that way about the PS3 vs the PS4 which came later and has better graphics.

Scarface32 · 04-02-2018, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Havok83

Okay, and? Consoles are more than graphics. Id say the SNES was a better console than the N64 and I feel that way about the PS3 vs the PS4 which came later and has better graphics.

If the Saturn wasn’t killed after only a couple of years, it’s game library would have rivaled that of the Genesis due to its ability to do new things (game developers like to try new things every now and then).

Also by throwing Nintendo and Sony into the mix, you’re forgetting what the initial conversation between us was about. Whether or not the Saturn would have been the best SEGA console had the Dreamcast never came out. The other two companies have nothing to do with that.

Opips3 · 04-02-2018, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarface32

If the Saturn wasn’t killed after only a couple of years, it’s game library would have rivaled that of the Genesis due to its ability to do new things (game developers like to try new things every now and then).

Also by throwing Nintendo and Sony into the mix, you’re forgetting what the initial conversation between us was about. Whether or not the Saturn would have been the best SEGA console had the Dreamcast never came out. The other two companies have nothing to do with that.

Past...

Why Nintendo need CD-ROM...asked

[Show spoiler]

Why Sega need CD-ROM...asked

[Show spoiler]

Who is make CD-ROM ??

[Show spoiler]

And

Nintendo do not have DVD-ROM in N64....failed

Sega do not have DVD-ROM in Dreamcast...failed

Sony do have DVD-ROM in PlayStation 2.....successful

Scarface32 · 04-02-2018, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opips3

Why Sega need CD-ROM...asked

[Show spoiler]

Saturn came out one month before PlayStation in Japan. One could argue that both companies were working on the same technology at the same time, and thus neither copied from the other.

Predatorix38417 · 04-02-2018, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok83

The Dreamcast was the best console Sega ever made

Shenmue alone is the reason to own a Dreamcast. The Sonic Adventure games are a lot of fun too. But I think the definitive ports of MvC 1 and 2 are the Dreamcast ports for sure (I still have my copy of 1, but sold my copy of 2 when the HD port came out).

Saturn is a mixed bag, perfect for 2D games (fighters in particular) but 3D is mostly horrendous. Some classics like Panzer Dragoon and Nights but the majority of 3D games are not good. The Saturn was also haunted by the lack of a solid Sonic game (thanks X-Treme).

Havok83 · 04-02-2018, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarface32

If the Saturn wasn’t killed after only a couple of years, it’s game library would have rivaled that of the Genesis due to its ability to do new things (game developers like to try new things every now and then).

Also by throwing Nintendo and Sony into the mix, you’re forgetting what the initial conversation between us was about. Whether or not the Saturn would have been the best SEGA console had the Dreamcast never came out. The other two companies have nothing to do with that.

But it was killed early so I cant prop it up as being great for potential titles which never materialized. With that said, comparing it to its predecessor, the Genesis, I had much more enjoyment with that and thought it had a better overall game library

The only reason I brought Sony and Nintendo into the mix is bc of your last response to me about graphics. I was making a point

Dynamo of Eternia · 04-02-2018, 03:23 PM

It may not technically be a "lazy port" since it is meant to be the arcade version, but it is disappointing that we aren't seeing some kind of version with the features added for some of the home console ports back in the day.

While the Saturn was sadly short-lived due to Sega's botched handling of it in almost every regard, it was still a great system in many respects, and not just for what it potentially could have done, but for things that it actually did.... unfortunately a lot of those things required buying imported games due to the system's death in the US market.

The biggest thing was the RAM expansion cart that, when combined with the system's internal RAM, tripled the overall RAM capacity of the system on it's own.

To date the only decent official home console releases of X-Men vs. Street Fighter and Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter were the imports for the Saturn. They were very close to being arcade perfect ports. The RAM cart allowed it to have the full tag-team feature and pretty much all frames of animation, with very, very short load times.

The PS1 versions in the US, by contrast, were very stripped down by comparison, being 1 vs. 1 with an assist character, and with many frames of animation missing from the characters that were present.

But back on the topic at hand, many consider the Saturn import of Street Fighter Zero 3 (the Japanese name of Street Fighter Alpha 3) to be the definitive version of the game. It also utilized the RAM cart. While the differences are not nearly as drastic as the aforementioned X-Men/SF & Marvel/SF games, the Saturn version of SF Zero/Alpha 3 is still overall considered to be better and more arcade accurate (in terms of graphics, animation, etc.) than the PS1 and even Dreamcast versions of the game, while also featuring the extra characters and features added for the home versions.

SFZ3 for Saturn goes for INSANE prices on the secondary market because of this.

I still plan to get this collection and it looks great overall. But I still shake my head a bit at the catch-22 old arcade games being ported to modern consoles.

Back in the day of the 16 and 32 bit eras, when it came to many games including the Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat titles, many people, myself included, were interested in getting the ones that were closest to the arcade version as possible, especially in terms of graphics. There was always some degree of trade-off, and few ever came close to being "perfect" back then. However what I, and I assume many others DID like were some of the extra features added to some of these games for the home ports, including cheat codes, extra features, extra modes, sometimes additional characters, etc.

Today's systems are more than capable of providing the desired accuracy to the arcade versions, but since more often than not these are now released as straight-up arcade ports, they usually lack the extra features, options, characters, etc.

On the MK side of things, as great as it has been having more arcade accurate versions of the original games, it kind of stinks that they've only released the arcade games and haven't re-released Mortal Kombat Trilogy... which in most regards is superior or Ultimate MK 3, as it is basically just another upgrade to MK3 that added in many more features from the previous games. At minimum I would love to see it re-released for current consoles accurate to the PS1 version in all respects except that loading times will no longer be an issue. So there would be no more having to compromise in terms of Shang Tsung's morphs, for example.

If they could go a couple of steps further, I wouldn't mind seeing a few aspects of the N64 version added in. While the N64 version was inferior in most respects by comparison to the PS1 version, it did have a small handful of things going for it. Scorpion has an addition Fatality that he does not have in the PS1 version. The PS1 version had a male character called Chameleon, a ninja who randomly turned into the different males ninjas based on his color, N64 had the female character Khameleon, which was the same concept, but with the female ninjas. It would be cool to have both of them in an updated release of MK Trilogy. Due to the lack of loading times, the N64 version also features a 3 vs 3 mode, and also had a code that could be entered on the 2-player vs. screen that would allow both players to randomly change into different characters during the match. Mortaro and Shao Kahn had fatalities in the N64 version of the game that they didn't have on PS1. Due to memory limitations of the cart format, some characters were removed from the N64 version... in particular, the unmasked Sub-Zero was removed entirely, and some of his moves added to the masked version. It would be cool if the masked version could retain those moves, but without the removal of the unmasked Sub-Zero. There's probably a few other oddities that I'm not thinking of off-hand.

It would just be nice to see a little attention to detail in this regard with this current re-releases. I can't imagine that it would take extensive work to make these things possible on current systems.

Musashi · 04-02-2018, 06:32 PM

That's often the problem with arcade compilations: devs usually overlook some of the added content from console releases. Still, if Capcom still has or can get a Marvel License again I want another compilation with all the Marvel fighting on it.

For more about Mortal Kombat 3 check this thread out:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=304374

Opips3 · 04-02-2018, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

SFZ3 for Saturn goes for INSANE prices on the secondary market because of this.

Who guide price videogames??

Myself check CIB price not have it on Saturn SFZ3 from import Japan.

Common game

PlayStation
-SFA3 $15.24 - $60.36

Dreamcast
-SFA3 $33.73 - $48.98. Graded Price $72.00

GBA
-SFA3 upper or MAX. (complete)$45.35 - $180.79 (new)

PSP
-SFA3: MAX $7.99 - $14.89

SNES
-SFA2 $86.40 - $198.35

I believe it cartridge is longer than cd is easy scratch

a blu-ray have proof-scratched than CDs or DVD.

Opips3 · 04-02-2018, 08:20 PM

Dynamo of Eternia,

Uncommon game
-JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is very rare game and increase value price.

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Hirohiko Araki. It was originally serialized in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1987 to 2004 before being transferred to the monthly seinen magazine Ultra Jump in 2005.

English language Or Japanese languages on game you should read it which??

Some one buy SFZ3 Saturn from imported Japan. Oh no where is English language....

Opips3 · 04-02-2018, 08:39 PM

My theory...

Street Fighter 30th anniversary collection. I want to limited edition is very important increase prices value. Not have it sorry. Sucks Capcom.

Game value price

Unopened or sealed...same price for now.

Or

Buy Nintendo switch cartridge will increase price value future...

Your to up decide...

I advice you.

Opips3 · 04-02-2018, 08:54 PM

You are boring of me??? I'm holiday on Monday.

Yourself judge on ST 30th anniversary collection.

I thought I like it. lol.

Enough!

Dynamo of Eternia · 04-02-2018, 10:09 PM

Street Fighter Zero 3 for Saturn tends to hover around $250-$300 on the lower end... and that's for copies that are already open/used. It goes up from there.

Opips3 · 04-02-2018, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Street Fighter Zero 3 for Saturn tends to hover around $250-$300 on the lower end... and that's for copies that are already open/used. It goes up from there.

Sound right.

I don't want buy arm and leg for Saturn. I mean scratch CD-ROM, t.v discontinued production and add 4mb cart. Struggle price.

best this! Handheld of GBA modded has LCD AGS 101 from GBA SP and battery.

STA3 upper all characters in cartridge game GBA. Highly increase price value.

I show pic, how to resolution 2d

Opips3 · 04-02-2018, 11:30 PM

Game Boy Advance Cheats

Street Fighter Alpha 3 Cheats

Download PDF
EDIT PAGE Last Edit: March 13, 2017 - 1 year ago

This page contains a list of cheats, codes, Easter eggs, tips, and other secrets for Street Fighter Alpha 3 for Game Boy Advance. If you've discovered a cheat you'd like to add to the page, or have a correction, please click EDIT and add it.

COSTUMES

Press L or R when selecting a character to unlock their alternate outfit in Street Fighter Alpha 3.

FINAL BATTLE

To skip to the final battle Hold A + B while selecting a speed.

PLAY AS SUPER BISON

At the character select screen hold Start when selecting Bison.

PLAY AS SHIN AKUMA

At the character select screen hold Start when selecting Akuma.

UNLOCK ALL FIGHTERS

On the title screen, press LEFT, RIGHT, DOWN, RIGHT, L, L, A, L, L, B, R, A, UP.

EDIT UNLOCK ALL MODES

On the title screen, press A, UP, A, L, R, RIGHT, L, RIGHT, A, DOWN, RIGHT.

Now press L, RIGHT, A, R, UP,L, RIGHT, B, A, UP, RIGHT, DOWN, RIGHT.

I KEEL YOU · 04-04-2018, 11:03 AM

It's worth noting that Alpha 3 is the only game where lack of characters compared to the console version is an issue. I think that Alpha 2 may also have had Cammy on the consoles and not in the arcades, but that's just one character.

I friggin LOVE Alpha 3 on the PSP. I still play it. It looks gorgeous. The graphics almost look like they completely remade the game for the PSP from scratch and haven't ported it, but I don't know the technical details.

Anyway, I can't wait for this release.

Opips3 · 04-04-2018, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

It's worth noting that Alpha 3 is the only game where lack of characters compared to the console version is an issue. I think that Alpha 2 may also have had Cammy on the consoles and not in the arcades, but that's just one character.

I friggin LOVE Alpha 3 on the PSP. I still play it. It looks gorgeous. The graphics almost look like they completely remade the game for the PSP from scratch and haven't ported it, but I don't know the technical details.

Anyway, I can't wait for this release.

I agreed you. Alpha 3: MAX on the PSP is a very good! However, I don't understand why low values..
PSP SFA3: MAX $7.99 - $14.89

GBA
-SFA3 upper. (complete $45.35) to (new $180.79) highly increase values.

Opips3 · 04-04-2018, 08:23 PM

I KEEL YOU,

Street Fighter Alpha Anthology on PS2 from Arcade port perfect to home console.

ST Alpha 2 Gold
Hidden characters
-Evil Ryu
-Shin Akuma
-Cammy is a true character 100% combat. Not sure...

04-02-2018, 11:30 PM	#77
Opips3 Banned Member since:Mar 2015 4K collection:43 Blu-ray collection:354 Blu-ray reviews:2	Street Fighter Alpha 3 Cheats Game Boy Advance Cheats Street Fighter Alpha 3 Cheats Download PDF EDIT PAGE Last Edit: March 13, 2017 - 1 year ago This page contains a list of cheats, codes, Easter eggs, tips, and other secrets for Street Fighter Alpha 3 for Game Boy Advance. If you've discovered a cheat you'd like to add to the page, or have a correction, please click EDIT and add it. COSTUMES Press L or R when selecting a character to unlock their alternate outfit in Street Fighter Alpha 3. FINAL BATTLE To skip to the final battle Hold A + B while selecting a speed. PLAY AS SUPER BISON At the character select screen hold Start when selecting Bison. PLAY AS SHIN AKUMA At the character select screen hold Start when selecting Akuma. UNLOCK ALL FIGHTERS On the title screen, press LEFT, RIGHT, DOWN, RIGHT, L, L, A, L, L, B, R, A, UP. EDIT UNLOCK ALL MODES On the title screen, press A, UP, A, L, R, RIGHT, L, RIGHT, A, DOWN, RIGHT. Now press L, RIGHT, A, R, UP,L, RIGHT, B, A, UP, RIGHT, DOWN, RIGHT. Last edited by Opips3; 04-02-2018 at 11:36 PM.

04-02-2018, 03:23 PM	#69
Dynamo of Eternia Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:335 Blu-ray collection:1857 DVD collection:1573 Trading Score:3	It may not technically be a "lazy port" since it is meant to be the arcade version, but it is disappointing that we aren't seeing some kind of version with the features added for some of the home console ports back in the day. While the Saturn was sadly short-lived due to Sega's botched handling of it in almost every regard, it was still a great system in many respects, and not just for what it potentially could have done, but for things that it actually did.... unfortunately a lot of those things required buying imported games due to the system's death in the US market. The biggest thing was the RAM expansion cart that, when combined with the system's internal RAM, tripled the overall RAM capacity of the system on it's own. To date the only decent official home console releases of X-Men vs. Street Fighter and Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter were the imports for the Saturn. They were very close to being arcade perfect ports. The RAM cart allowed it to have the full tag-team feature and pretty much all frames of animation, with very, very short load times. The PS1 versions in the US, by contrast, were very stripped down by comparison, being 1 vs. 1 with an assist character, and with many frames of animation missing from the characters that were present. But back on the topic at hand, many consider the Saturn import of Street Fighter Zero 3 (the Japanese name of Street Fighter Alpha 3) to be the definitive version of the game. It also utilized the RAM cart. While the differences are not nearly as drastic as the aforementioned X-Men/SF & Marvel/SF games, the Saturn version of SF Zero/Alpha 3 is still overall considered to be better and more arcade accurate (in terms of graphics, animation, etc.) than the PS1 and even Dreamcast versions of the game, while also featuring the extra characters and features added for the home versions. SFZ3 for Saturn goes for INSANE prices on the secondary market because of this. I still plan to get this collection and it looks great overall. But I still shake my head a bit at the catch-22 old arcade games being ported to modern consoles. Back in the day of the 16 and 32 bit eras, when it came to many games including the Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat titles, many people, myself included, were interested in getting the ones that were closest to the arcade version as possible, especially in terms of graphics. There was always some degree of trade-off, and few ever came close to being "perfect" back then. However what I, and I assume many others DID like were some of the extra features added to some of these games for the home ports, including cheat codes, extra features, extra modes, sometimes additional characters, etc. Today's systems are more than capable of providing the desired accuracy to the arcade versions, but since more often than not these are now released as straight-up arcade ports, they usually lack the extra features, options, characters, etc. On the MK side of things, as great as it has been having more arcade accurate versions of the original games, it kind of stinks that they've only released the arcade games and haven't re-released Mortal Kombat Trilogy... which in most regards is superior or Ultimate MK 3, as it is basically just another upgrade to MK3 that added in many more features from the previous games. At minimum I would love to see it re-released for current consoles accurate to the PS1 version in all respects except that loading times will no longer be an issue. So there would be no more having to compromise in terms of Shang Tsung's morphs, for example. If they could go a couple of steps further, I wouldn't mind seeing a few aspects of the N64 version added in. While the N64 version was inferior in most respects by comparison to the PS1 version, it did have a small handful of things going for it. Scorpion has an addition Fatality that he does not have in the PS1 version. The PS1 version had a male character called Chameleon, a ninja who randomly turned into the different males ninjas based on his color, N64 had the female character Khameleon, which was the same concept, but with the female ninjas. It would be cool to have both of them in an updated release of MK Trilogy. Due to the lack of loading times, the N64 version also features a 3 vs 3 mode, and also had a code that could be entered on the 2-player vs. screen that would allow both players to randomly change into different characters during the match. Mortaro and Shao Kahn had fatalities in the N64 version of the game that they didn't have on PS1. Due to memory limitations of the cart format, some characters were removed from the N64 version... in particular, the unmasked Sub-Zero was removed entirely, and some of his moves added to the masked version. It would be cool if the masked version could retain those moves, but without the removal of the unmasked Sub-Zero. There's probably a few other oddities that I'm not thinking of off-hand. It would just be nice to see a little attention to detail in this regard with this current re-releases. I can't imagine that it would take extensive work to make these things possible on current systems.

04-02-2018, 06:32 PM	#70
Musashi Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Manchester, CT Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:337 Blu-ray reviews: 1	That's often the problem with arcade compilations: devs usually overlook some of the added content from console releases. Still, if Capcom still has or can get a Marvel License again I want another compilation with all the Marvel fighting on it. For more about Mortal Kombat 3 check this thread out: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=304374

04-02-2018, 08:20 PM	#72
Opips3 Banned Member since:Mar 2015 4K collection:43 Blu-ray collection:354 Blu-ray reviews:2	Dynamo of Eternia, Uncommon game -JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is very rare game and increase value price. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Hirohiko Araki. It was originally serialized in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1987 to 2004 before being transferred to the monthly seinen magazine Ultra Jump in 2005. English language Or Japanese languages on game you should read it which?? Some one buy SFZ3 Saturn from imported Japan. Oh no where is English language....

04-02-2018, 08:39 PM	#73
Opips3 Banned Member since:Mar 2015 4K collection:43 Blu-ray collection:354 Blu-ray reviews:2	My theory... Street Fighter 30th anniversary collection. I want to limited edition is very important increase prices value. Not have it sorry. Sucks Capcom. Game value price Unopened or sealed...same price for now. Or Buy Nintendo switch cartridge will increase price value future... Your to up decide... I advice you.

04-02-2018, 10:09 PM	#75
Dynamo of Eternia Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:335 Blu-ray collection:1857 DVD collection:1573 Trading Score:3	Street Fighter Zero 3 for Saturn tends to hover around $250-$300 on the lower end... and that's for copies that are already open/used. It goes up from there.

04-04-2018, 11:03 AM	#78
I KEEL YOU Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:May 2011 4K collection:67 Blu-ray collection:458 DVD collection:42	It's worth noting that Alpha 3 is the only game where lack of characters compared to the console version is an issue. I think that Alpha 2 may also have had Cammy on the consoles and not in the arcades, but that's just one character. I friggin LOVE Alpha 3 on the PSP. I still play it. It looks gorgeous. The graphics almost look like they completely remade the game for the PSP from scratch and haven't ported it, but I don't know the technical details. Anyway, I can't wait for this release.

04-04-2018, 08:23 PM	#80
Opips3 Banned Member since:Mar 2015 4K collection:43 Blu-ray collection:354 Blu-ray reviews:2	I KEEL YOU, Street Fighter Alpha Anthology on PS2 from Arcade port perfect to home console. ST Alpha 2 Gold Hidden characters -Evil Ryu -Shin Akuma -Cammy is a true character 100% combat. Not sure...

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