4 Months, 3 Weeks, 2 Days (Artificial Eye) - Wrong aspect ratio - Blu-ray Forum

Howie Munson · 05-01-2018, 10:43 AM

I didn't expect this to happen from Artificial Eye. They present the film in 1.85:1 which is NOT the original aspect ratio (2.39:1). How could this happen???

Otherwise no complaints, especially the extra features are great.

nitin · 05-01-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Howie Munson

I didn't expect this to happen from Artificial Eye. They present the film in 1.85:1 which is NOT the original aspect ratio (2.39:1). How could this happen???

Otherwise no complaints, especially the extra features are great.

Some of the DVDs for the film were the same, but I believe they were open matte rather than cropped. I wonder if that’s what they have done here (not really acceptable either way but open matte is a little more acceptable than cropped).

Aunt Peg · 05-01-2018, 11:57 AM

Mine has already been shipped. Anyway, when I receive it I can do an comparison with the DVD. If it's open-matte I don't really mind that much but if it's cropped it's going back!

Howie Munson · 05-01-2018, 01:53 PM

I just compared the diner scene which is on yt and I'm pretty sure the Blu is cropped ... it's a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Howie Munson · 05-01-2018, 01:58 PM

I emailed Curzon and asked if there was an error.

Cremildo · 05-01-2018, 03:03 PM

Major disappointment.

I don't care if it's open matte instead of cropped when it's not the intended OAR.

Thankfully, I've never pre-ordered anything from AE, which is a company I otherwise admire for having a great foreign-language catalogue.

Howie Munson · 05-01-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Howie Munson

I emailed Curzon and asked if there was an error.

not very helpful...

Hi Rolf

Thank you for your email.

I am sorry to hear you are dissatisfied with the Blue Ray.
Unfortunately, this is not something we can help you with, you will need to go back to your point of purchase and discuss this with them, and hopefully they can resolve this for you.

Kind regards
Jane

Cremildo · 05-01-2018, 04:38 PM

I'm afraid the person who replied didn't even begin to understand what the problem was.

Howie Munson · 05-01-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cremildo

I'm afraid the person who replied didn't even begin to understand what the problem was.

Yeah, that's what I thought... but then I don't think there was any kind of technical error here anyway... they just used the wrong master as there were 1.85:1 versions out there before as nitin mentioned here.

Foggy · 05-01-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Howie Munson

I didn't expect this to happen from Artificial Eye. They present the film in 1.85:1 which is NOT the original aspect ratio (2.39:1). How could this happen???

Otherwise no complaints, especially the extra features are great.

Thanks for the heads up, I was going to pick it up over the weekend but HMV had no stock in, looks like I’ve dodged a bullet.

Gerby · 05-01-2018, 07:31 PM

Just checked my old AE DVD out of curiosity & it is in 2.39:1.
I'll stick with my dvd unless they sort the issue out.

nitin · 05-01-2018, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerby

Just checked my old AE DVD out of curiosity & it is in 2.39:1.
I'll stick with my dvd unless they sort the issue out.

Yes AE was one of the few DVD releases in the correct OAR!

I wonder if this current master in the wrong OAR is why Criterion didn’t release it together with Beyond the Hills and Graduation? We know they have the license.

Aunt Peg · 05-02-2018, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Aunt Peg

Mine has already been shipped. Anyway, when I receive it I can do an comparison with the DVD. If it's open-matte I don't really mind that much but if it's cropped it's going back!

Thankfully I was wrong and mine hadn't shipped and I was able to cancel it.

ravenus · 05-02-2018, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nitin

I wonder if this current master in the wrong OAR is why Criterion didn’t release it together with Beyond the Hills and Graduation? We know they have the license.

Wrong AR didn't stop them from presenting The Last Emperor

nitin · 05-02-2018, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenus

Wrong AR didn't stop them from presenting The Last Emperor

Well yes but in that case, that was to get the ‘precious’ Cinematographer approved sticker

leoganzi · 05-02-2018, 09:21 AM

The same goes for AE's Me And You. To my knowledge, 2.35:1 is the original theatrical aspect ratio of the film, but the BD is presented in 1.85:1(maybe open matte?) instead.

nitin · 05-02-2018, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by leoganzi

The same goes for AE's Me And You. To my knowledge, 2.35:1 is the original theatrical aspect ratio of the film, but the BD is presented in 1.85:1(maybe open matte?) instead.

Yes, this is addressed briefly in the site review for Me and You. It was apparently reframed by Bertolucci himself.

fatboyslim142 · 05-04-2019, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nitin

I wonder if this current master in the wrong OAR is why Criterion didn’t release it together with Beyond the Hills and Graduation? We know they have the license.

Turns out that the US Criterion release (Jan 22nd 2019) IS ALSO in the wrong aspect ratio. AR of their BD release is 1.78:1.

jwf · 05-04-2019, 10:31 PM

The Criterion screenshots on this site appear correct, along with DVDBeaver confirming them for aspect ratio.

Cremildo · 05-04-2019, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fatboyslim142

Turns out that the US Criterion release (Jan 22nd 2019) IS ALSO in the wrong aspect ratio. AR of their BD release is 1.78:1.

No, it's not.

05-01-2018, 10:43 AM	#1
Howie Munson Active Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Germany 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:2267 DVD collection:1366 Blu-ray reviews: 30	4 Months, 3 Weeks, 2 Days (Artificial Eye) - Wrong aspect ratio I didn't expect this to happen from Artificial Eye. They present the film in 1.85:1 which is NOT the original aspect ratio (2.39:1). How could this happen??? Otherwise no complaints, especially the extra features are great. Last edited by BigNickUK; 05-02-2018 at 07:28 AM.

05-01-2018, 01:58 PM	#5
Howie Munson Active Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Germany 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:2267 DVD collection:1366 Blu-ray reviews: 30	I emailed Curzon and asked if there was an error. Last edited by Howie Munson; 05-01-2018 at 02:41 PM. Reason: typo

05-01-2018, 11:57 AM	#3
Aunt Peg Blu-ray Count Member since:May 2013 Location:Sydney 4K collection:164 Blu-ray collection:4849 DVD collection:517	Mine has already been shipped. Anyway, when I receive it I can do an comparison with the DVD. If it's open-matte I don't really mind that much but if it's cropped it's going back!

05-01-2018, 01:53 PM	#4
Howie Munson Active Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Germany 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:2267 DVD collection:1366 Blu-ray reviews: 30	I just compared the diner scene which is on yt and I'm pretty sure the Blu is cropped ... it's a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

05-01-2018, 03:03 PM	#6
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1051 Trading Score:51	Major disappointment. I don't care if it's open matte instead of cropped when it's not the intended OAR. Thankfully, I've never pre-ordered anything from AE, which is a company I otherwise admire for having a great foreign-language catalogue.

05-01-2018, 04:38 PM	#8
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1051 Trading Score:51	I'm afraid the person who replied didn't even begin to understand what the problem was.

05-01-2018, 07:31 PM	#11
Gerby Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2013 Location:Yorkshire, UK Blu-ray collection:-	Just checked my old AE DVD out of curiosity & it is in 2.39:1. I'll stick with my dvd unless they sort the issue out.

05-02-2018, 09:21 AM	#16
leoganzi Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2012 4K collection:83 Blu-ray collection:397 DVD collection:88 Blu-ray reviews:2	The same goes for AE's Me And You. To my knowledge, 2.35:1 is the original theatrical aspect ratio of the film, but the BD is presented in 1.85:1(maybe open matte?) instead.

05-04-2019, 10:31 PM	#19
jwf Member Member since:Oct 2012 Blu-ray collection:1	The Criterion screenshots on this site appear correct, along with DVDBeaver confirming them for aspect ratio.

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