The Fog (1980) 4K UHD - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Geoff D · 08-08-2018, 11:08 PM

I hope so, but the chances are that these discs are being mastered/compressed/authored as we speak. I just hope that SC suddenly find themselves in the position to do better work thanks to having this new format, just as Lionsgate have proved surprisingly adept in the UHD arena while their Blu-rays are still shite.

Agent Kay · 08-09-2018, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

I hope so, but the chances are that these discs are being mastered/compressed/authored as we speak. I just hope that SC suddenly find themselves in the position to do better work thanks to having this new format, just as Lionsgate have proved surprisingly adept in the UHD arena while their Blu-rays are still shite.

Throw bitrate at the problem.
Deer is out soon so we will find out what they are made of.

Geoff D · 08-09-2018, 09:36 AM

David M has consistently proved that bitrate alone doesn't do it, you've gotta have people knowing what they're doing with those bits, and for whatever reasons the progression to UHD has allowed Lionsgate to do that.

Agent Kay · 08-09-2018, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

David M has consistently proved that bitrate alone doesn't do it, you've gotta have people knowing what they're doing with those bits, and for whatever reasons the progression to UHD has allowed Lionsgate to do that.

I know how to do it right, I am saying SC without him might as well do that to try and mitigate another Highlander, just do a 70gb plus encode and just no matter the length just go nuts.
Lions gate have their own rule book with their filmouts and dolby everything and they are bit heavy with the DNR at times.

MovieHermit · 08-09-2018, 01:41 PM

The Fog 4K quickly became the top of my most wanted list.
Cant wait!

I think this is being released regularly in North America too now correct?

DMRI2006 · 08-09-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MovieHermit

The Fog 4K quickly became the top of my most wanted list.
Cant wait!

I think this is being released regularly in North America too now correct?

No, not yet. Studio Canal owns distribution outside the U.S. so this is probably going to be a wide European release.

Someone in North America would have to license it -- and Shout's doing a Blu-Ray mastered from a 4K transfer, but not a UHD, this fall. Maybe someday but not anytime soon.

Charlie_C · 08-09-2018, 03:27 PM

Are we confident of a UK release? Add They Live, PoD and Christine to my curiosity too!

OutOfBoose · 08-09-2018, 07:43 PM

Caps is pure sex. Now they need to encode the scan well. If EFNY looks as good... I'm touching myself tonight.

Geoff D · 08-09-2018, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

I know how to do it right, I am saying SC without him might as well do that to try and mitigate another Highlander, just do a 70gb plus encode and just no matter the length just go nuts.
Lions gate have their own rule book with their filmouts and dolby everything and they are bit heavy with the DNR at times.

You might well know, but as you're not doing these encodes for SC (and nor is David AFAIK) then we're back to a wing and a prayer.

[edit] Just throwing bits at it with lazy virtual CBR-type encodes will get you so far with SDR material, the likes of Shout and Criterion have been bodging that for years and getting away with it, but HDR needs proper attentiveness to mitigate its unique compression challenges (e.g. less bit depth is afforded to the highlights than in SDR) and you can't just throw bitrate at it, press a button and have it come out perfect - or even merely okay - the other side. One too many recent discs present with that blatant chroma noise because the encoders are starving the chroma channels of data, either deliberately or through sheer incompetence, but it's telling that Lionsgate are not one of the offenders.

FelixFlankin · 08-10-2018, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DMRI2006

No, not yet. Studio Canal owns distribution outside the U.S. so this is probably going to be a wide European release.

Someone in North America would have to license it -- and Shout's doing a Blu-Ray mastered from a 4K transfer, but not a UHD, this fall. Maybe someday but not anytime soon.

Did you mean The Thing? As I haven't seen them announce a Fog 4K Blu-ray from Scream for release later.

Agent Kay · 08-10-2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlankin

Did you mean The Thing? As I haven't seen them announce a Fog 4K Blu-ray from Scream for release later.

Universal would release the thing

MassiveMovieBuff · 08-10-2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlankin

Did you mean The Thing? As I haven't seen them announce a Fog 4K Blu-ray from Scream for release later.

I was wondering about this too.

Dailyan · 08-10-2018, 04:04 PM

Those caps look gorgeous. If the encode is as good as well as sales than I hope we can see stuff like Wings of Desire, The Dam Busters, and Mulholland Drive on 4K.

Eeeper · 08-10-2018, 10:56 PM

Seriously, between Christine and this coming out soon on UHD with the promise of more Carpenter waiting in the wings, what did we do right?

DMRI2006 · 08-10-2018, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlankin

Did you mean The Thing? As I haven't seen them announce a Fog 4K Blu-ray from Scream for release later.

Yep sorry got my Carpenter Shout steels mixed up!

Dubstar · 08-12-2018, 05:05 AM

so wait, I'm confused, if Rialto is theatrically releasing this in the States on Oct. 26th, who'd that mean could or would release a 4K UHD edition - Universal? cause I'm kind of sick of Scream/Shout doing all these 4K remastering and not putting them out as 'limited' edition UHD disc.

Dailyan · 08-12-2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubstar

so wait, I'm confused, if Rialto is theatrically releasing this in the States on Oct. 26th, who'd that mean could or would release a 4K UHD edition - Universal? cause I'm kind of sick of Scream/Shout doing all these 4K remastering and not putting them out as 'limited' edition UHD disc.

MGM owns the home video rights to "The Fog" in the US. Honestly your best bet is to import the Canal release because I don't see Lionsgate releasing them in the States.

Dubstar · 08-12-2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dailyan

MGM owns the home video rights to "The Fog" in the US. Honestly your best bet is to import the Canal release because I don't see Lionsgate releasing them in the States.

thanks for the input, BTW what's your avatar (out of curiosity)?

Dailyan · 08-13-2018, 12:20 AM

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thanks for the input, BTW what's your avatar (out of curiosity)?

You're welcome! Bolin from "The Legend of Korra".

Viking61 · 08-18-2018, 01:40 PM

Amazon France.

https://www.amazon.fr/fog-4k-ultra-Blu-ray/dp/B07GJ8WM62/

08-08-2018, 11:08 PM	#41
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	I hope so, but the chances are that these discs are being mastered/compressed/authored as we speak. I just hope that SC suddenly find themselves in the position to do better work thanks to having this new format, just as Lionsgate have proved surprisingly adept in the UHD arena while their Blu-rays are still shite.

08-09-2018, 09:36 AM	#43
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	David M has consistently proved that bitrate alone doesn't do it, you've gotta have people knowing what they're doing with those bits, and for whatever reasons the progression to UHD has allowed Lionsgate to do that.

08-09-2018, 01:41 PM	#45
MovieHermit Senior Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Toronto, Canada 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:2	The Fog 4K quickly became the top of my most wanted list. Cant wait! I think this is being released regularly in North America too now correct?

08-09-2018, 03:27 PM	#47
Charlie_C Special Member Member since:May 2017 Location:UK 4K collection:140 Blu-ray collection:376 Trading Score:10	Are we confident of a UK release? Add They Live, PoD and Christine to my curiosity too!

08-09-2018, 07:43 PM	#48
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	Caps is pure sex. Now they need to encode the scan well. If EFNY looks as good... I'm touching myself tonight.

08-10-2018, 04:04 PM	#53
Dailyan Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Beyond the Blue Horizon 4K collection:198 Blu-ray collection:2251 DVD collection:197 Blu-ray reviews: 58 Trading Score:56	Those caps look gorgeous. If the encode is as good as well as sales than I hope we can see stuff like Wings of Desire, The Dam Busters, and Mulholland Drive on 4K.

08-10-2018, 10:56 PM	#54
Eeeper Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Dublin, Ireland 4K collection:81 Blu-ray collection:648 Trading Score:1	Seriously, between Christine and this coming out soon on UHD with the promise of more Carpenter waiting in the wings, what did we do right?

08-12-2018, 05:05 AM	#56
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29	so wait, I'm confused, if Rialto is theatrically releasing this in the States on Oct. 26th, who'd that mean could or would release a 4K UHD edition - Universal? cause I'm kind of sick of Scream/Shout doing all these 4K remastering and not putting them out as 'limited' edition UHD disc.

08-18-2018, 01:40 PM	#60
Viking61 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Trading Score:1	Amazon France. https://www.amazon.fr/fog-4k-ultra-Blu-ray/dp/B07GJ8WM62/

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