is Gangs of New York PQ that bad? - Blu-ray Forum

steve_99101 · 01-26-2009, 07:27 AM

i'm reading awful reviews for this everywhere, this is 1 of my favorite movies and i really want to own it on blu, is it worth it?

Canada · 01-26-2009, 07:34 AM

I have no idea but can't you rent it first

Sky_Captain · 01-26-2009, 07:34 AM

Avoid it like the plague.

Bruce Morrison · 01-26-2009, 08:34 AM

There are differing views on it. I thought it looked OK, but I think there have been complaints that too much DNR was used to remove grain. That doesn't necessarily worry me as much as it seems to worry some people. To my eyes, the image still has plenty of detail in it. So you should probably base your decision on how important you think the grain issue is.

If the complaints were also based on factors such as edge enhancement (I can't remember all the details of the complaints), then it would probably depend on your screen size as to whether that would be really noticeable. I'm watching on a 46" screen and, as I say, I didn't have any major issues with it. Great movie as well!

perfectdark · 01-26-2009, 02:08 PM

i own it and honestly, unless i'm blind i dont see the problem. In fact i think its a good looking bluray, much better than some of my other titles like Stagate or Universal Soldier.... just get it, awesome flick and it looks good to me and i'm watching it on my 100" screen

PS3+HDDVD OWNER · 01-26-2009, 02:11 PM

I bought Gangs of NY, and the PQ is definately nothing to brag about. I thought the AQ was average, but definately not worth a double-dip imo.

kpkelley · 01-26-2009, 02:12 PM

There are issues with EE, DNR, and contrast boosting. It is transfered from the same master as the dvd which was once called "the worst dvd transfer ever."

Detail is better than the dvd, so if, as you say, you are a fan of the film, then don't hesitate to pick it up. Disney will have to create an entirely new digital master before a disc with better pq can be available.

RedIsNotBlue · 01-26-2009, 02:12 PM

You can check out a review with screenshots here.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...rk_blu-ray.htm

Davef711 · 01-26-2009, 02:13 PM

I thought it looked great. go for it!

RedIsNotBlue · 01-26-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Davef711

I thought it looked great. go for it!

Well I have seen screen captures comparing the DVD to the Blu-ray and I honestly could barely tell the difference. Judging from those screenshot comparisons alone I would say if you have the DVD already an upgrade to Blu-ray should be very questionable.

lobo81865 · 01-26-2009, 02:29 PM

I ordered it for about 16 bucks from an Amazon seller. It hasn't arrived yet, but I hope I'll like the picture since it's one of my favorite films.

jono_0101 · 01-26-2009, 02:30 PM

i was wanting to pick this up at some point as well, but have been reading all the negative reviews. i dont own it on DVD, but what are the chances that they will redo the blu ray and re release a better transfer at some point? any ideas?

ckent22 · 01-26-2009, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jono_0101

i was wanting to pick this up at some point as well, but have been reading all the negative reviews. i dont own it on DVD, but what are the chances that they will redo the blu ray and re release a better transfer at some point? any ideas?

Studios always love to re release titles to make you buy certain things more than once, but if they do re release it then it will probably be re released to give new special features, but will almost undoubtedly use the same transfer.

Marine Mike · 01-26-2009, 02:37 PM

It honestly looked like a bad DVD-rip to me and I'm not overexaggerating either. Though the sound quality on it was really good.

Aerodude73 · 01-26-2009, 02:41 PM

Well, that and the movie is pretty good I thought. You have a good performance from Leo and the usual over-the-top Daniel Day Lewis, good story, set designs, etc. - I would think the PQ & AQ is better than the SD version, plus as noted above, it has the "Rare" Martin Scorcese Commentary (yes, the SD does as well), so if the price is right, i'd def. go for it. I will be soon myself. I think all the comments here about the PQ may be because of the way it was filmed to look closer to the era it portrays. Just a thought...

perfectdark · 01-26-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

It honestly looked like a bad DVD-rip to me and I'm not overexaggerating either. Though the sound quality on it was really good.

LOL

Disregard this post

This is just plain wrong....... like come on people

kpkelley · 01-26-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectdark

LOL

Disregard this post

This is just plain wrong....... like come on people

No opinion is wrong.

Marine Mike · 01-26-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectdark

LOL

Disregard this post

This is just plain wrong....... like come on people

No post is plain wrong as everyone is entitled to their opinion.

SellmeyourDVD · 01-26-2009, 03:08 PM

it was ok, I read the reviews but decided i love the movie to much to not have it, i think i spent 11 dollars on it in the trading forum here.

RSuarez · 01-26-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SellmeyourDVD

it was ok, I read the reviews but decided i love the movie to much to not have it, i think i spent 11 dollars on it in the trading forum here.

I did the same thing, looked for it in the AMazon marketplace for aroun $13... the picture quality is not that bad but it is not definitely reference material. It does look at times as if it were the standard DVD upscaled... on the bright side, we finally have the movie in a single disc... man it was annoying to change discs in the middle of the movie!

01-26-2009, 07:27 AM	#1
steve_99101 Special Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:155 Trading Score:313	is Gangs of New York PQ that bad? i'm reading awful reviews for this everywhere, this is 1 of my favorite movies and i really want to own it on blu, is it worth it?

01-26-2009, 02:13 PM	#9
Davef711 Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Cleveland, Ohio Blu-ray reviews:2	you can do ot I thought it looked great. go for it!

01-26-2009, 02:41 PM	#15
Aerodude73 Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Middletown, RI (MEMBER OF THE "ECPP")™ Home Theater Gallery:134 4K collection:423 Blu-ray collection:2493 DVD collection:7 Digital collection:3 Blu-ray reviews:9 Trading Score:31	SCORECESE Commentary - Reason enough there! Well, that and the movie is pretty good I thought. You have a good performance from Leo and the usual over-the-top Daniel Day Lewis, good story, set designs, etc. - I would think the PQ & AQ is better than the SD version, plus as noted above, it has the "Rare" Martin Scorcese Commentary (yes, the SD does as well), so if the price is right, i'd def. go for it. I will be soon myself. I think all the comments here about the PQ may be because of the way it was filmed to look closer to the era it portrays. Just a thought...

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01-26-2009, 07:34 AM	#2
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	I have no idea but can't you rent it first

01-26-2009, 07:34 AM	#3
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Avoid it like the plague.

01-26-2009, 08:34 AM	#4
Bruce Morrison Power Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:United Kingdom 4K collection:339 Blu-ray collection:2245 DVD collection:581	There are differing views on it. I thought it looked OK, but I think there have been complaints that too much DNR was used to remove grain. That doesn't necessarily worry me as much as it seems to worry some people. To my eyes, the image still has plenty of detail in it. So you should probably base your decision on how important you think the grain issue is. If the complaints were also based on factors such as edge enhancement (I can't remember all the details of the complaints), then it would probably depend on your screen size as to whether that would be really noticeable. I'm watching on a 46" screen and, as I say, I didn't have any major issues with it. Great movie as well!

01-26-2009, 02:08 PM	#5
perfectdark Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:51 Blu-ray collection:55 Blu-ray reviews: 59 Trading Score:14	i own it and honestly, unless i'm blind i dont see the problem. In fact i think its a good looking bluray, much better than some of my other titles like Stagate or Universal Soldier.... just get it, awesome flick and it looks good to me and i'm watching it on my 100" screen

01-26-2009, 02:11 PM	#6
PS3+HDDVD OWNER Special Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Chicago Trading Score:12	I bought Gangs of NY, and the PQ is definately nothing to brag about. I thought the AQ was average, but definately not worth a double-dip imo.

01-26-2009, 02:12 PM	#7
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	There are issues with EE, DNR, and contrast boosting. It is transfered from the same master as the dvd which was once called "the worst dvd transfer ever." Detail is better than the dvd, so if, as you say, you are a fan of the film, then don't hesitate to pick it up. Disney will have to create an entirely new digital master before a disc with better pq can be available.

01-26-2009, 02:12 PM	#8
RedIsNotBlue Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:503 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:226	You can check out a review with screenshots here. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...rk_blu-ray.htm

01-26-2009, 02:29 PM	#11
lobo81865 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:562 Blu-ray collection:3659 DVD collection:3326 MA collection:1323 Digital collection:3018 iTunes collection:1551 Prime collection:950 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:102	I ordered it for about 16 bucks from an Amazon seller. It hasn't arrived yet, but I hope I'll like the picture since it's one of my favorite films.

01-26-2009, 02:30 PM	#12
jono_0101 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2008 Location:St. Louis Blu-ray collection:164 Trading Score:7	i was wanting to pick this up at some point as well, but have been reading all the negative reviews. i dont own it on DVD, but what are the chances that they will redo the blu ray and re release a better transfer at some point? any ideas?

01-26-2009, 02:37 PM	#14
Marine Mike The Busey Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:120 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:4	It honestly looked like a bad DVD-rip to me and I'm not overexaggerating either. Though the sound quality on it was really good.

01-26-2009, 03:08 PM	#19
SellmeyourDVD Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:125 Trading Score:11	it was ok, I read the reviews but decided i love the movie to much to not have it, i think i spent 11 dollars on it in the trading forum here.

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