Sony VPL-HW10 vs Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 6500UB

[tilallr1]

Deciding between these 2. Any thoughts? Here they are:

Sony VPL-HW10
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sony-VPL-HW10.htm

PowerLite Home Cinema 6500UB
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epso...ma_6500_UB.htm

[wostertag]

I'd go with the Sony. I own both and LCD and an SXRD (Sony VPL-VW50) FP. I prefer the picture on the SXRD.

[tilallr1]

I have also been reading alot of feedback on both projectors and there seems to be alot of more serious problems with the Epson. For example, Focus issues, convergence issues, Iris noise issues.

Here is my question, does the difference in Contrast ratio and Lumens really matter? Shouldn't the Epson have better picture quality overall based on these specs?

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by tilallr1

I have also been reading alot of feedback on both projectors and there seems to be alot of more serious problems with the Epson. For example, Focus issues, convergence issues, Iris noise issues.

Here is my question, does the difference in Contrast ratio and Lumens really matter? Shouldn't the Epson have better picture quality overall based on these specs?

Manufacturer specifications can't really be weighted against other manufacturer's as there are so many ways they can calculate the same values. The best way is to compare review specs listed at review sites as they will at least be comparable because they used the same method. The Sony uses a SXRD engine with a dynamic iris, while the Epson uses a 3LCD approach. Inherently the Sony will have better black levels, while the epson will tend to be brighter. As you say there have been issues with the Epson in terms of defocusing and some interpolation issues. Considering you price range I would suggest you also look at the JVC RS10, which can be had for around the price of the others or a little more.

[Ethenolas]

They are both fabulous projectors...

The Epson had some problems on launch...however, I think they are all fixed now.

I purchased the 6500ub and love it.

[bhampton]

I experimented with LCD in the 60's but I'm over that now.

I would get the Sony.

Sony - Known for the Worlds Best Televisions.

Epson - Known for printers that are nearly as good as HP's.

-Brian

p.s. I actually bought a refurbished VW60 for the MSRP of the HW10. I would buy a refurbished or used VW60 over the HW10 because of the motorized focus. I like to be able to make all adjustments to my theater without having to wait or ask anyone to help and while you could adjust focus manually from the pj I find it's too simple to adjust focus with the remote standing closer to the screen.

[Ethenolas]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I experimented with LCD in the 60's but I'm over that now.

I would get the Sony.

Sony - Known for the Worlds Best Televisions.

Epson - Known for printers that are nearly as good as HP's.

-Brian

p.s. I actually bought a refurbished VW60 for the MSRP of the HW10. I would buy a refurbished or used VW60 over the HW10 because of the motorized focus. I like to be able to make all adjustments to my theater without having to wait or ask anyone to help and while you could adjust focus manually from the pj I find it's too simple to adjust focus with the remote standing closer to the screen.

LCD does have a bad name compared to the other technologies...however they have made extreme advances in the last few years...

and btw...Epson makes the panels for most every LCD projector in the world.


So don't rule it out yet...

The vw60 is a great projector...but if you haven't seen LCD since the 60s how can you make any judgment at all? I think the 6500UB easily matches the vw60. Go demo a new ultra high contrast LCD. They look nothing like they did in the 60s or even a few years ago...

Honestly, tillallr1, go demo both...you will find they have a different (not better or worse) and you need to decide which technology you like better. Here is a short comparison...

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...ompetitors.php

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by Ethenolas

Epson makes the panels for most every LCD projector in the world.

Yes, but they seem to have "lost their focus."...I'll go hide in the corner now.

[Ethenolas]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Yes, but they seem to have "lost their focus."...I'll go hide in the corner now.

you made my day....

lol...i agree they dropped the ball and rushed release. There is no hiding that...

However, from what I have seen they have fixed their mistakes...

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by Ethenolas

you made my day....

lol...i agree they dropped the ball and rushed release. There is no hiding that...

However, from what I have seen they have fixed their mistakes...

Yeah, the defocusing is supposed to be much more minor now than when it was first released, to the point that it is negligible.

[Ethenolas]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Yeah, the defocusing is supposed to be much more minor now than when it was first released, to the point that it is negligible.

I am under the impression (owners thread / personal experience) that it does not defocus at all internally...

I notice i need to focus it every now and then when i boot it up after i take the lens cap off...i don't think that is internal defocus...

[bhampton]

Hey,

Either way... I'm sure both are fun pj's.

I've had a couple of Sony projectors already (VPH1271, VPHG70) and I like the look of LCOS so the Sony was my choice.

Whichever choice you make... Good Luck,... Hope you have lots of fun with it.

-Brian

[tilallr1]

Well in the end I went with the Pioneer FPJ1 - Rebadged JVC RS2. All I can say its a much better projector overall than the other 2. I am extremely happy. Every movie I watch is like I am at the theater and am seeing things I have never seen before.

[Ethenolas]

Originally Posted by tilallr1

Well in the end I went with the Pioneer FPJ1 - Rebadged JVC RS2. All I can say its a much better projector overall than the other 2. I am extremely happy. Every movie I watch is like I am at the theater and am seeing things I have never seen before.

sweet! enjoy!