Karajan: Beethoven Symphonies (1975-1977) Dolby Atmos Blu-ray Audio - Blu-ray Forum

McCrutchy · 11-17-2018, 02:14 AM

Out today from Universal Music / Deutsche Grammophon.

McCrutchy · 11-17-2018, 02:15 AM

BDInfo scan:

Please note that my standalone version of BDInfo does not display Dolby Atmos metadata, so I only see the Dolby TrueHD core. As I do not have Atmos capability, I cannot personally verify that Dolby Atmos is present on the discs as advertised, though obviously, I assume it is.

This release contains no video content, only static menu screens with a selectable tracklist. The first disc contains the first five symphonies, while the second disc contains the remaining four symphonies, as well as two audio interviews with Karajan--one in German and the other in English--that were originally included on a bonus LP in some versions of the 1977 vinyl box set. The release comes in a trifold digipak with a booklet that contains a mixture of black and white and color photographs and a text essay in German and English, although there appears to be significantly more photos and scholarship in the booklet that was included in the vinyl box set.

Disc 1: Symphonies 1-5

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Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     DGG_KARAJAN_BEETHOVEN_DISC1
Disc Size:      39,298,718,076 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

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Disc 2: Symphonies 6-9

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Code:

DISC INFO:

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Disc Size:      44,580,758,644 bytes
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PLAYLIST REPORT:

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Das Interview - Herbert von Karajan im gespräch mit Joachim Kaiser

Code:

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: DGG_KARAJAN_BEETHOVEN_DISC2
Disc Size: 44,580,758,644 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 3,066,734,592 bytes
Length: 0:16:03.996
Total Bitrate: 25.45 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21961 kbps / 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: German / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit

Karajan in conversation - Herbert von Karajan talks to Richard Osborne (presented in English, not German)

Code:

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: DGG_KARAJAN_BEETHOVEN_DISC2
Disc Size: 44,580,758,644 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00002.MPLS
Size: 2,493,007,872 bytes
Length: 0:13:33.813
Total Bitrate: 24.51 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21060 kbps / 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: German / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit

bigshot · 11-17-2018, 05:07 PM

I'm assuming that this is remixed. Does the mix correct the bizarre balance issues and spotlighting in the original stereo mix? The performances on these were good, but the mix was bizarre at times.

MooneyRara · 11-17-2018, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

BDInfo scan:

[Show spoiler]

Please note that my standalone version of BDInfo does not display Dolby Atmos metadata, so I only see the Dolby TrueHD core. As I do not have Atmos capability, I cannot personally verify that Dolby Atmos is present on the discs as advertised, though obviously, I assume it is.

This release contains no video content, only static menu screens with a selectable tracklist. The first disc contains the first five symphonies, while the second disc contains the remaining four symphonies, as well as two audio interviews with Karajan--one in German and the other in English--that were originally included on a bonus LP in some versions of the 1977 vinyl box set. The release comes in a trifold digipak with a booklet that contains a mixture of black and white and color photographs and a text essay in German and English, although there appears to be significantly more photos and scholarship in the booklet that was included in the vinyl box set.

Disc 1: Symphonies 1-5

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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
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Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     DGG_KARAJAN_BEETHOVEN_DISC1
Disc Size:      39,298,718,076 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:44:31.127 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   39,287,322,624 bytes
Total Bitrate:          31.84 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        950 kbps            1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

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Disc 2: Symphonies 6-9

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Das Interview - Herbert von Karajan im gespräch mit Joachim Kaiser

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Karajan in conversation - Herbert von Karajan talks to Richard Osborne (presented in English, not German)

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Disc Size: 44,580,758,644 bytes
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BD-Java: Yes
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Good stuff.

Thanks McCrutchy!

McCrutchy · 11-18-2018, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooneyRara

Good stuff.

Thanks McCrutchy!

Happy to help.

Dubstar · 11-20-2018, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshot

I'm assuming that this is remixed. Does the mix correct the bizarre balance issues and spotlighting in the original stereo mix? The performances on these were good, but the mix was bizarre at times.

'bizarre' mix = immersive object based audio Atmos mixing

(I'm now intrigued)

bigshot · 11-20-2018, 04:53 PM

The 70s Karajan recordings were widely criticized for their over produced sound. Karajan wanted to multi-mike everything and goose the orchestral perspective and level in the mix. They don't sound like a real orchestra playing in a real venue. With Karajan dead and gone, did they go back and mix it without all the noodling? That would be my guess. It would improve these recordings immensely. The Eroica is a very good performance.

Dubstar · 11-20-2018, 09:02 PM

so is describing the soundmix like Disney was trying to do with Fantasound for 'Fantasia' with a lot of panning of sound.

bigshot · 01-10-2019, 11:04 PM

I got this yesterday. Hopefully I'll have time to sample it this weekend.

bigshot · 01-18-2019, 03:23 PM

A big disappointment. The track labelled 5.1 didn't have any sound coming out of the center or rears. The one labelled Atmos did have sound there, but it was just reverb. I had hoped this would be a new mix, but it appears to be just an upscaled stereo mix. Save your money on this one. The CDs sound pretty much the same.

logogrifo · 04-23-2024, 07:27 AM

Thanks for the info

11-17-2018, 02:14 AM	#1
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1263 Blu-ray collection:6773 DVD collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	Karajan: Beethoven Symphonies (1975-1977) Dolby Atmos Blu-ray Audio Out today from Universal Music / Deutsche Grammophon.

11-17-2018, 05:07 PM	#3
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	I'm assuming that this is remixed. Does the mix correct the bizarre balance issues and spotlighting in the original stereo mix? The performances on these were good, but the mix was bizarre at times.

11-20-2018, 04:53 PM	#7
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	The 70s Karajan recordings were widely criticized for their over produced sound. Karajan wanted to multi-mike everything and goose the orchestral perspective and level in the mix. They don't sound like a real orchestra playing in a real venue. With Karajan dead and gone, did they go back and mix it without all the noodling? That would be my guess. It would improve these recordings immensely. The Eroica is a very good performance.

11-20-2018, 09:02 PM	#8
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29	so is describing the soundmix like Disney was trying to do with Fantasound for 'Fantasia' with a lot of panning of sound.

01-10-2019, 11:04 PM	#9
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	I got this yesterday. Hopefully I'll have time to sample it this weekend.

01-18-2019, 03:23 PM	#10
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	A big disappointment. The track labelled 5.1 didn't have any sound coming out of the center or rears. The one labelled Atmos did have sound there, but it was just reverb. I had hoped this would be a new mix, but it appears to be just an upscaled stereo mix. Save your money on this one. The CDs sound pretty much the same.

04-23-2024, 07:27 AM	#11
logogrifo New Member Member since:Mar 2016	Thanks for the info

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