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[Blu Jacket]

This isn't about me anymore, I am not discussing that incident any longer. You are imposing your opinion upon every member here. It isn't up to you to decide whether a site's rumor is worthy or not, that is up to each of us to decide on our own. And I think it is entirely improper for a Mod to get insulting when someone states a contrary opinion. Your little "butthurt" jabs are quite unprofessional. "What is and isn't allowed" is completely your own opinion that you are foisting upon everyone else as fact. This site will be the poorer for this. Feel free to wave the ban stick, which you seem to gleefully wish to implement early and often, I'll be seeking my information elsewhere from now on.

[dk3dknight]

Just so you know max ps3fanboy has become one with joystiq

http://playstation.joystiq.com/2009/...-playstation-/

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

...I don't know about that, but I took a look at your post history and no one moderator has singled you out and you have never been given any infraction points so I don't know what you are talking about really...

Yeah, my point exactly: no official disciplinary action, just a lot of underhanded garbage.

I wonder: if I cursed at you, even just in acronym ("FFS"); I bet I'd get nailed for it.

This whole thing is really pointless. You're not addressing any concerns or complaints, you're just picking out a couple words or a single phrase that are not essential to the meaning but that still classify as a direct quote, something you're comfortable dealing with, and dodging the point and disputing that instead of directly acknowledging that this thread might have unfolded prematurely or disproportionately. You're not making new rules, you're just venting, and using your title to make it faculty official.

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Yeah, my point exactly: no official disciplinary action, just a lot of underhanded garbage.

I wonder: if I cursed at you, even just in acronym ("FFS"); I bet I'd get nailed for it.

This whole thing is really pointless. You're not addressing any concerns or complaints, you're just picking out a couple words or a single phrase that are not essential to the meaning but that still classify as a direct quote, something you're comfortable dealing with, and dodging the point and disputing that instead of directly acknowledging that this thread might have unfolded prematurely or disproportionately. You're not making new rules, you're just venting, and using your title to make it faculty official.

Are you trying to be funny or something?

Your complaint about Max is exactly what you are doing to him with your post while he didn't do that to you.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

Are you trying to be funny or something?

Your complaint about Max is exactly what you are doing to him with your post while he didn't do that to you.

... not sure if I understand you correctly: I have no official title to abuse. I don't have the power to delete or dictate what people can post.

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Yeah, my point exactly: no official disciplinary action, just a lot of underhanded garbage.

I wonder: if I cursed at you, even just in acronym ("FFS"); I bet I'd get nailed for it.

This whole thing is really pointless. You're not addressing any concerns or complaints, you're just picking out a couple words or a single phrase that are not essential to the meaning but that still classify as a direct quote, something you're comfortable dealing with, and dodging the point and disputing that instead of directly acknowledging that this thread might have unfolded prematurely or disproportionately. You're not making new rules, you're just venting, and using your title to make it faculty official.

I think maybe your letting yourself get upset over a misconception.. I think you might want to grab a glass of cold water and cool off, your leting your emotions come through your post...

I think what max is doing is trying to protect the users here from known bad websites whos puposes is malice or to misinform..

Sadly, some of these websites have agendas one that is not in our bests interests, and many people have problems sorting the truth, people come to believe that things posted here might be true..

This is how people get hurt this site is not made up of adults its made up on people of many ages, and maturity levels, and while you disagree with max's attempt to protect the user base I feel he does this out of love for "us..."

("us" refers the community as a whole)

-Chris

[Marine Mike]

More clarification.

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Yeah, my point exactly: no official disciplinary action, just a lot of underhanded garbage.

I wonder: if I cursed at you, even just in acronym ("FFS"); I bet I'd get nailed for it.

This whole thing is really pointless. You're not addressing any concerns or complaints, you're just picking out a couple words or a single phrase that are not essential to the meaning but that still classify as a direct quote, something you're comfortable dealing with, and dodging the point and disputing that instead of directly acknowledging that this thread might have unfolded prematurely or disproportionately. You're not making new rules, you're just venting, and using your title to make it faculty official.

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

... not sure if I understand you correctly: I have no official title to abuse.

[j_rocca42]

this is a nice little arguement. but it's going nowhere. the mods have made up their minds. although It's a shade on the "big brother" side. it's no use arguing about it and getting yourself banned for real...

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by j_rocca42

this is a nice little arguement. but it's going nowhere. the mods have made up their minds. although It's a shade on the "big brother" side. it's no use arguing about it and getting yourself banned for real...

I really don't see this as a big brother moment I see it as a way to protect the forum users from malice and misinformation intended for the purposes of spreading fud or alternative malice attempts to misinform...

[Hedchekr]

I don't see a problem with this. I have had my threads edited before, no problem. Just watch what you post and you shouldn't have a problem.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

No on really takes local news seriously as it isn't seen as a credible source of information. A lot of people take rumour blogs as good info...

I like my local news


lol...

I think its good so we don't have 100's of threads with stuff that can't be confirmed anywhere else but someones blog or website.

[jaymzbo]

sounds reasonable IMO; would not be the first forum I've belonged to that had specific rules pertaining to the posting of links;

My .02: It is a privilege to be a member, not a right. Especially in a community that deals with the early adoption of technology. There's just too much harm that can be caused by rumors and F.U.D. What's wrong with trying to limit that?

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Yeah, my point exactly: no official disciplinary action, just a lot of underhanded garbage.

I wonder: if I cursed at you, even just in acronym ("FFS"); I bet I'd get nailed for it.

This whole thing is really pointless. You're not addressing any concerns or complaints, you're just picking out a couple words or a single phrase that are not essential to the meaning but that still classify as a direct quote, something you're comfortable dealing with, and dodging the point and disputing that instead of directly acknowledging that this thread might have unfolded prematurely or disproportionately. You're not making new rules, you're just venting, and using your title to make it faculty official.

Again, I didn't see any evidence for it, nothing in your post history, deleted or not, suggests you are being persecuted by any mods here.

If you used the term FFS, trust me you wouldn't get any disciplinary action, not from me.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by dk3dknight

Just so you know max ps3fanboy has become one with joystiq

http://playstation.joystiq.com/2009/...-playstation-/

That's a darn shame, hopefully the staff remain separate because PS3fanboy (despite the name) was pretty solid.

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Again, I didn't see any evidence for it, nothing in your post history, deleted or not, suggests you are being persecuted by any mods here.

If you used the term FFS, trust me you wouldn't get any disciplinary action, not from me.

Seriously, whats wrong with having Fat Finger Syndrome?

[Nathan P]

Where's the problem, Whenever someone sprouts BS they get asked/told to stop it, not matter where they are or what they are doing Thats all the mods are doing and I am for it

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

... not sure if I understand you correctly: I have no official title to abuse. I don't have the power to delete or dictate what people can post.

He means this part:

you're just picking out a couple words or a single phrase that are not essential to the meaning

I fully agree, you haven't come up with a legitimate concern, just a misguided case of personal persecution and victimisation which I can find little to no evidence for. Hell, you aren't any moderator watch lists!

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Blu Jacket

This isn't about me anymore, I am not discussing that incident any longer. You are imposing your opinion upon every member here. It isn't up to you to decide whether a site's rumor is worthy or not, that is up to each of us to decide on our own. And I think it is entirely improper for a Mod to get insulting when someone states a contrary opinion. Your little "butthurt" jabs are quite unprofessional. "What is and isn't allowed" is completely your own opinion that you are foisting upon everyone else as fact. This site will be the poorer for this. Feel free to wave the ban stick, which you seem to gleefully wish to implement early and often, I'll be seeking my information elsewhere from now on.

My opinion?!? WTF!

I am pretty sure it is the majority opinion that the banned list of websites are pretty shoddy for useful and reliable info.

Again, this is not a paid professional position, it is a voluntary one and I took it up because I wanted to remain active in the community during my year away from work, while being able to use my experience and knowledge from the position to benefit members.

Did you not find that everything got a bit unruly when Shin took some time off? Sure it was cool being able to post any sort of crap without getting into shit, and maybe too many people got accustomed to that, but now that order has been restored, more moderators have been added and Shin is back it doesn't fly anymore. Stuff has to be legitimate!

I still don't get it though, why would you want people to post bad information or fake sales numbers, is it that you want to intentionally mislead people and for the mods to allow it? I would hope that isn't the case (I really do and I hope that you are just being obtuse rather than malicious).

[Blu Jacket]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

I still don't get it though, why would you want people to post bad information or fake sales numbers, is it that you want to intentionally mislead people and for the mods to allow it? I would hope that isn't the case (I really do and I hope that you are just being obtuse rather than malicious).

There you go with unprofessional unfounded commentary on my character again. I never once tried to intentionally mislead anyone, get over yourself. Who's to say what is or is not bad information? That is for the individual to decide, not you. I don't give a frak about sales numbers, but rumors shouldn't be banned because YOU don't like the source. Just because you have supporters doesn't make your opinion fact all the while hiding behind your assertion that you are "protecting us".

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ---- Benjamin Franklin

Or from a well known movie:

"This is how freedom dies, with thunderous applause."

I'm done, have your way without me.

[Marine Mike]

I think that the only mistake on Max's part was to invite users to an open forum to discuss the new rules.