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Old 02-12-2009, 07:12 PM   #1
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Default AMADEUS - digital copy WMV only!!!

I like getting a digital copy with my Blu-ray movies. A DVD I can extract and compress for my iPod, but the same can't be done with a Blu-ray disc.

There is no logic behind Warner's decision to make certain titles NOT compatible with all iPods out there.

If you are as angered by this as I am, please send them feedback through their digital copy website. They need to hear from angry users.
Thanks.

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Old 02-12-2009, 08:14 PM   #2
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:23 PM   #3
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What!? Ugh I hate it when they do stupid things like that
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:51 PM   #4
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IThere is no logic behind Warner's decision to make certain titles NOT compatible with all iPods out there.

If you are as angered by this as I am, please send them feedback through their digital copy website. They need to hear from angry users.
http://www.wbdigitalcopy.com/support...edback-content
Well, there's logic, it's just not very GOOD logic:
Warner still has a snitty with Apple because they don't like Apple's mini-prices--
Which made them greedy patsies for Amazon's "Charge whatever you want" download model...Who themselves were suckers for Microsoft's "Sure, everybody uses WMV!" sales pitch, because they didn't know any better.

Nowadays, nobody's pushing WMV/PlaysForSure anymore except Sony, so Warner has to cover its rear and say, "Uh, sure, they play on Macs and ITunes!"
(Neglecting to mention that they meant the Windows iTunes, or that a WMV could play on a Mac, provided you had the Windows-executable software to actually unlock the movie file in the first place.)

Just shows what happens to companies when they don't listen to Steve Jobs...Suc-kerrrrs!

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Old 02-12-2009, 09:00 PM   #5
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Digital copy is SCAM. Include a 5 cent DVD and raise the MSRP 5 bucks.

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:42 PM   #6
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I just submitted several B.F.s (B+itch Fits) to the Warner digital copy site about several WB titles that have PC only digital copies. It is NOT fair.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:46 PM   #7
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I personally could care less about the Digital Copy, but I love the fact AMADEUS includes a compilation CD! I hope we'll see more of that, although somehow I rather doubt it.

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Old 02-12-2009, 11:47 PM   #8
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Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.
...Yeah, and we're also slapping airline movie-licensors in the face by putting travel In-Flight Movies out of business.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:04 AM   #9
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I personally couldn't care less about the Digital Copy.
Same here. And that's for every movie.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:13 AM   #10
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Nowadays, nobody's pushing WMV/PlaysForSure anymore except Sony, so Warner has to cover its rear and say, "Uh, sure, they play on Macs and ITunes!"
(Neglecting to mention that they meant the Windows iTunes, or that a WMV could play on a Mac, provided you had the Windows-executable software to actually unlock the movie file in the first place.)

Just shows what happens to companies when they don't listen to Steve Jobs...Suc-kerrrrs!
Oh please.

Every company EXCEPT Apple supports the WMV format.

Don't like it? People call MS a monoploly yet that is EXACTLY what Apple wants and is doing with iTunes.

BTW: iPods are but a firmware release away from supporting WMV, but the monopolists in Cupertino say no.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:14 AM   #11
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Digital copy is SCAM. Include a 5 cent DVD and raise the MSRP 5 bucks.

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.
I work at home and I am in front of my computer all day (and sometimes all night) long. I occasionally like to view a movie in a small pop-up window in a corner of the monitor while I work (especially when a huge file is rendering).

I like digital copies. What I don't like it when the digital copy is only available on one computer platform. If it has to be that way then don't do it at all. It isn't fair for it to not work on both PC and Mac.

Some people also watch digital copies on their laptops or on their iPod Touch (3.5 screen). It isn't exclusive to a 2-inch screen.

I do have one bee-atch about Digital Copy: I have seen several FOX BDs recently with a promo clip about how Digital Copies are now available on "your favorite DVDs." The clip usually shows the Die Hard 4 DVD. This is totally ridiculous! We are watching a BLU-RAY and the promo is for an oldray DVD -- and it promotes a Digital Copy that is NOT available at all on a BD. Wow. Someone in the FOX marketing department must be on crack.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:57 AM   #12
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Oh please.

Every company EXCEPT Apple supports the WMV format.

Don't like it? People call MS a monoploly yet that is EXACTLY what Apple wants and is doing with iTunes.

BTW: iPods are but a firmware release away from supporting WMV, but the monopolists in Cupertino say no.
But apple is getting rid of the protections on their itunes files...so that will open it up.

Anyway...I am very sad that the digital copy does not work with my iphone...
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:11 AM   #13
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But apple is getting rid of the protections on their itunes files...so that will open it up.
They're getting rid of it on SOME music files

The studios would not allow their movies out unprotected

The real soution is for Apple to open up Fairplay (and play fair) to anyone who wants to pay the licensing fee. Every phone and MP3 manufacturer on the planet would jump on it.

If they don't start working with everyone else instead of going "We're #1, you have to support us so nyeah", they're going to get left in the dust by the universal DRM system that's a few years away. What good is a platform if no one renews their content contracts, and you don't have any of your own? MS knows this, and made several attempts to buy studios, but they failed because no one wants MS in that kind of position of power. That's why they're slowing backing out of the media box/provider industry alltogether, and concentrating serving stuff up on Live and collecting on that, and helping with the backend on universal DRM.

If you make enough complaints, I'm sure WB will provide a Speed Racer style code exchange
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:15 AM   #14
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Digital copy is SCAM. Include a 5 cent DVD and raise the MSRP 5 bucks.

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.
To be fair, my m1730 is a tad bit larger than a 2in screen, as I am sure folks MacBooks, iBooks, or whatever they're calling those apple frisbies nowadays.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:23 AM   #15
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Digital copy is SCAM. Include a 5 cent DVD and raise the MSRP 5 bucks.

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.
Well for me it is an 8.4 inch screen now. I have a portable dvd player that allows me to watch movies from my ipod. Watching movies on a 2 inch screen does kind of suck but it does its job which is to keep me entertained, its better than nothing. If technolgy allows us to watch movies on the go then why not? I would only use it if I have to go on a trip or something.

I've nver seen the movie but its too bad that Amadeus is only WMV. You could always convert the file no?
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:22 AM   #16
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Oh please.

Every company EXCEPT Apple supports the WMV format.

Don't like it? People call MS a monoploly yet that is EXACTLY what Apple wants and is doing with iTunes.

BTW: iPods are but a firmware release away from supporting WMV, but the monopolists in Cupertino say no.
First, not every company excpt Apple lacks support for WMV.
Second, the W in WMV stands for Windows... as in Microsoft Windows. Microsoft has refused Apple the license. Not the other way around.
Third, the iPod can play non DRM WMV's with free work-a-rounds.
Fourth, it is Microsoft that has been sued by both the U.S. and Britain and the E.U. for being a monopoly not Apple.

Apple spent two years negotiating the ability to play DRM files with WMV format and Microsoft said no. This was of course when Microsoft was under the impression that their Zune media player was going to mop the floor with the iPod. Now that Apple is the number one retailer for online media they really do not need DRM encrypted WMV format playback on their media players (i.e. the iPod and iPhone)

And don't get too attached to your WMV files. Microsoft is dropping WMV with Windows 7 and is going with Silverlight.
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They're getting rid of it on SOME music files

The studios would not allow their movies out unprotected

The real soution is for Apple to open up Fairplay (and play fair) to anyone who wants to pay the licensing fee. Every phone and MP3 manufacturer on the planet would jump on it.

If they don't start working with everyone else instead of going "We're #1, you have to support us so nyeah", they're going to get left in the dust by the universal DRM system that's a few years away. What good is a platform if no one renews their content contracts, and you don't have any of your own? MS knows this, and made several attempts to buy studios, but they failed because no one wants MS in that kind of position of power. That's why they're slowing backing out of the media box/provider industry alltogether, and concentrating serving stuff up on Live and collecting on that, and helping with the backend on universal DRM.

If you make enough complaints, I'm sure WB will provide a Speed Racer style code exchange
Actually it is not some of their music but all of the music. As of now it is about 60% of the catalog by the end of 2nd quarter 09 it should be 100%. So any music you purchase will be free to play on any device that supports AAC file playback.

So with Apple, Amazon, and eMusic offering DRM free music that just leaves... oh yea... Microsoft selling music that will only play on their players because of DRM.

oh and by the way... there is no universal DRM the "industry" is working on. In fact they are moving away from DRM.
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To be fair, my m1730 is a tad bit larger than a 2in screen, as I am sure folks MacBooks, iBooks, or whatever they're calling those apple frisbies nowadays.

frisbies... cute one... the number 2 maker of notebooks with the single highest market share average of 30% of any single company, and you make jokes that you think are cute and yet makes me wonder how you are even smart enough to even know how to turn a computer on... much less operate one.
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Digital copy is SCAM. Include a 5 cent DVD and raise the MSRP 5 bucks.

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.
Yup, my theory is they need an excuse to keep their DVD plants running at closer to full speed (which I suppose in a way is a good thing to keep some folks working), but yeah, what you wrote.

(Warner in my book is synonymous with excess/gouging - e.g., the Casablanca box set, and apparently the forthcoming Woodstock box, are obvious examples.)
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Digital copy is SCAM. Include a 5 cent DVD and raise the MSRP 5 bucks.

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.
Agreed. I can understand listening to music on an iPod; if you're a teenager on vacation with the parents, working out at the gym, or on a run; but to watch a movie on that tiny screen? Why don't you get your nose out from the TV from time to time and see what's going on around you?
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