Digital streaming and the Disney Vault - Blu-ray Forum

flyfree432 · 03-08-2019, 09:48 PM

Now that the Disney Vault is dead do you think they will add all their movies for purchase on MA, Vudu and iTunes? I would love to have Fantasia on streaming.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019...service/?amp=1

kevin87 · 03-08-2019, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flyfree432

Now that the Disney Vault is dead do you think they will add all their movies for purchase on MA, Vudu and iTunes? I would love to have Fantasia on streaming.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019...service/?amp=1

I wouldn't be surprised if they wait for a BD re-release before they allow people to purchase them again. Because they will still want to push the service as much as possible.

MachoKing · 03-09-2019, 02:05 AM

They'll just use the vault as a way to entice people to subscribe to their service. I very much doubt they'll just end the vault.

shinobipopcorn · 03-09-2019, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by flyfree432

Now that the Disney Vault is dead do you think they will add all their movies for purchase on MA, Vudu and iTunes? I would love to have Fantasia on streaming.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019...service/?amp=1

Fantasia was available on Netflix for the longest time, defying the vault. But anyway, Snow White and Princess and the Frog are available in a 2 pack in one of the this week's Vudu sales. SW is a traditional vault title. There's no reason to believe Fantasia won't be available for purchase too when it comes out (most likely after Cinderella this year or holidays).

But if I were you, I'd just buy the disc release that comes with a digital copy then sell the disc if you didn't want it. They price their digital copies same as retail so you don't really save anything.

flyfree432 · 03-09-2019, 04:54 PM

fantasia isn't available on disc + digital. It's one of the few animated titles that still isn't available.

jbloggs · 03-09-2019, 06:35 PM

This is interesting..."Captain Marvel will be the first Disney+ exclusive film following theatrical release"

So I wonder if that means no Blu-ray/4K release and not available for purchase via Vudu and other services.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/5/18...iger-streaming

Also, I only just realized that Nat Geo is part of the Fox purchase by Disney, so we can expect those $4.99 documentaries to go up to $17.99

https://petapixel.com/2017/12/15/dis...lion-deal-fox/

ManOfTheForest · 03-09-2019, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbloggs

This is interesting..."Captain Marvel will be the first Disney+ exclusive film following theatrical release"

So I wonder if that means no Blu-ray/4K release and not available for purchase via Vudu and other services.

Disney will surely continue with Blu-Rays and I can understand that they'll keep their productsoffoaher subscription services but I hope we can still buy them on platforms like iTunes.

unsung122212 · 03-09-2019, 07:44 PM

This was to be expected when Disney streaming was announced that it will limit it films to its service. All that means is that the only subscription service that will have future Disney titles will be Disney plus, not Netlix or Amazon Prime or Apple's upcoming streaming service.

It mentions that the service will begin late 2019, so unless they're foing to wait till August or September to release it on home media, it should still be on Vudu, iTunes, Amazon, FNow or GP to purchase.

It is still far more valuable to sell on physical and digital copies than what streaming sub would offer Disney. Since they mentioned that it would be cheaper than Netflix ($10) per month and Disney will roughly 6-8 films a year plus whatever they do with Fox titles, the monthly fee won't bring in the same value as selling physical and digital copies would. Then calculate all the original programming into the equation, it would be foolish for a company that wants to make as much money as possible to forgo sell physical and digital copies.

Greyman · 03-09-2019, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jbloggs

This is interesting..."Captain Marvel will be the first Disney+ exclusive film following theatrical release"

So I wonder if that means no Blu-ray/4K release and not available for purchase via Vudu and other services.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/5/18...iger-streaming

Also, I only just realized that Nat Geo is part of the Fox purchase by Disney, so we can expect those $4.99 documentaries to go up to $17.99

https://petapixel.com/2017/12/15/dis...lion-deal-fox/

Disney is not going to cut off that money stream from physical sales.

The Blu-ray/4k include digital copy per the early listing, so safe bet it will be for sale on the MA partners.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/captain...?skuId=6332720

ManOfTheForest · 03-09-2019, 11:13 PM

Has Disney side anything about the service for outside the US. I cannot remember.

p w · 03-09-2019, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfTheForest

Has Disney side anything about the service for outside the US. I cannot remember.

disney announced a streaming service in japan. hopefully this means disney has plans to expand their streaming service offerings to additional countries.
https://japantoday.com/category/pict...rvice-in-Japan

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Originally Posted by MachoKing

They'll just use the vault as a way to entice people to subscribe to their service. I very much doubt they'll just end the vault.

some things are going to stay vaulted too. such as "song of the south."

Steedeel · 03-09-2019, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfTheForest

Has Disney side anything about the service for outside the US. I cannot remember.

I’m sure they said it was going to be global with a rollout in 2020 for everyone else. (maybe 2021 in U.K with Brexit confusion) The UK normally gets shafted though, so don’t hold your breath.

ManOfTheForest · 03-10-2019, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by p w

disney announced a streaming service in japan. hopefully this means disney has plans to expand their streaming service offerings to additional countries.
https://japantoday.com/category/pict...rvice-in-Japan

some things are going to stay vaulted too. such as "song of the south."

Ireland and the UK already have have Disney streaming service - DisneyLife.

I'm hoping they put the Mandolorian on that if we aren't getting Disney+ when it launches.

ManOfTheForest · 03-10-2019, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

I’m sure they said it was going to be global with a rollout in 2020 for everyone else. (maybe 2021 in U.K with Brexit confusion) The UK normally gets shafted though, so don’t hold your breath.

Oh please. When does the Uk ever get "shafted"?

It is you guys that do it to the rest of us.

AnemicOak · 03-10-2019, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

I’m sure they said it was going to be global with a rollout in 2020 for everyone else. (maybe 2021 in U.K with Brexit confusion) The UK normally gets shafted though, so don’t hold your breath.

http://disneylife.com/uk

Steedeel · 03-10-2019, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

http://disneylife.com/uk

It’s nowhere near the same thing. No Pixar, no Marvel, no Lucasfilm etc..

It’s essentially Disney Lite.

Steedeel · 03-10-2019, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfTheForest

Oh please. When does the Uk ever get "shafted"?

It is you guys that do it to the rest of us.

No movies Anywhere, (no digital locker at all)

No Vudu

No Hulu

No HBO

You guys got all the best DVD labels and even Blu-ray labels.

We have played a huge part in the film industry but you wouldn’t think it.

shinobipopcorn · 03-10-2019, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by flyfree432

fantasia isn't available on disc + digital. It's one of the few animated titles that still isn't available.

Like I said in my post, it's most likely the next Signature collection release after Cinderella this summer. Expect it either for this holiday season or at the beginning of the year to coincide with the film's 80th anniversary. This digital+ thing does not mean they are stopping physical sales. The "Captain Marvel exclusive" thing just meant they're not putting it on Netflix like all the other Disney films have been.

BlakkMajik3000 · 03-10-2019, 03:22 AM

I've been saying for a while now that the vault is BS, especially when it comes to digital distribution. Let's be honest here, once a movie is released on physical it's available digitally forever because the internet. I'll just leave it at that.

ManOfTheForest · 03-10-2019, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s nowhere near the same thing. No Pixar, no Marvel, no Lucasfilm etc..

It’s essentially Disney Lite.

DisneyLife might not have everything but there is a ton of stuff on there. As far as I know it is the only attempt at a Disney streaming service.

And it does have Marvel and Star Wars content.

And it most certainly has had Pixar titles. It where I’ve seen a couple for the first time. Inside Out to name one.

03-08-2019, 09:48 PM	#1
flyfree432 Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:The state of confusion Blu-ray collection:50 Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:478	Digital streaming and the Disney Vault Now that the Disney Vault is dead do you think they will add all their movies for purchase on MA, Vudu and iTunes? I would love to have Fantasia on streaming. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019...service/?amp=1

03-09-2019, 02:05 AM	#3
MachoKing Banned Member since:Mar 2016 Blu-ray collection:6 DVD collection:18 Digital collection:56 Trading Score:234	They'll just use the vault as a way to entice people to subscribe to their service. I very much doubt they'll just end the vault.

03-09-2019, 04:54 PM	#5
flyfree432 Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:The state of confusion Blu-ray collection:50 Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:478	fantasia isn't available on disc + digital. It's one of the few animated titles that still isn't available.

03-09-2019, 06:35 PM	#6
jbloggs Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2014 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:1035	This is interesting..."Captain Marvel will be the first Disney+ exclusive film following theatrical release" So I wonder if that means no Blu-ray/4K release and not available for purchase via Vudu and other services. https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/5/18...iger-streaming Also, I only just realized that Nat Geo is part of the Fox purchase by Disney, so we can expect those $4.99 documentaries to go up to $17.99 https://petapixel.com/2017/12/15/dis...lion-deal-fox/

03-09-2019, 07:44 PM	#8
unsung122212 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Dec 2012 4K collection:180 Blu-ray collection:1764 DVD collection:122 Digital collection:2277 iTunes collection:277 Trading Score:237	This was to be expected when Disney streaming was announced that it will limit it films to its service. All that means is that the only subscription service that will have future Disney titles will be Disney plus, not Netlix or Amazon Prime or Apple's upcoming streaming service. It mentions that the service will begin late 2019, so unless they're foing to wait till August or September to release it on home media, it should still be on Vudu, iTunes, Amazon, FNow or GP to purchase. It is still far more valuable to sell on physical and digital copies than what streaming sub would offer Disney. Since they mentioned that it would be cheaper than Netflix ($10) per month and Disney will roughly 6-8 films a year plus whatever they do with Fox titles, the monthly fee won't bring in the same value as selling physical and digital copies would. Then calculate all the original programming into the equation, it would be foolish for a company that wants to make as much money as possible to forgo sell physical and digital copies.

03-09-2019, 11:13 PM	#10
ManOfTheForest Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:7	Has Disney side anything about the service for outside the US. I cannot remember.

03-10-2019, 03:22 AM	#19
BlakkMajik3000 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2014 Location:479 via 318 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:481 DVD collection:89 MA collection:1004 Digital collection:12 iTunes collection:418 Trading Score:97	I've been saying for a while now that the vault is BS, especially when it comes to digital distribution. Let's be honest here, once a movie is released on physical it's available digitally forever because the internet. I'll just leave it at that.

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