this has been bugging me (saw v) spoilers!!!

[Stas]

Saw I was amazing.

That's the only part I would own on Blu.

[thecroshow]

Originally Posted by Meeklo

You tell him Steve-Dave!

Sorry couldn't resist!

at least get the line right if you're going to quote Mallrats and Dogma *edit* i think they used that line at the very end of JSBSB right? in any case, i hate it when someone butchers a quote!

[DonRSD]

part 5 was OK
they had to make a movie like this as jogsaw died.

its a bridge for whats to come

now i THINK they will go the "prequel" route and make saw 6 or someother beyond make a turn to what happened before part 1.

this series can go on forever as as long as theres a storyline & different gore im all for it.

the storyline is nice. they HAD to swey from part 3 & 4 due to jogsaw dying.

but my gut tells me past 6 will be in cronological order THEN starting with "saw 7" we will get prequels so jigsaw can be the main guy once again

[o0 BumbleBee 0o]

what bugged me more was not knowing what was in the box that was given to his wife,many say its the little guy on the bike but i wish i knew

[demoni]

Originally Posted by Deuce

what bugged me more was not knowing what was in the box that was given to his wife,many say its the little guy on the bike but i wish i knew

Ah, I forgot about the box... That just shows how utterly boring this movie was.

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

part 5 was OK
they had to make a movie like this as jogsaw died.

its a bridge for whats to come

now i THINK they will go the "prequel" route and make saw 6 or someother beyond make a turn to what happened before part 1.

this series can go on forever as as long as theres a storyline & different gore im all for it.

the storyline is nice. they HAD to swey from part 3 & 4 due to jogsaw dying.

but my gut tells me past 6 will be in cronological order THEN starting with "saw 7" we will get prequels so jigsaw can be the main guy once again

They've got to show who is the one who wrote that note to Hoffman and also what was in the box.

I've got several theories on this but don't want to ruin other people's perceptions of the film.

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

This movie destroyed the continuity in the series. It basically renders Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4 completely meaningless.

The past films established that...

[Show spoiler]
Amanda was taking over the mantle and even drove John from the crime scene at the end of Part 2. We also see that Amanda made most of the traps.

Now we are led to think that...

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Hoffman was the one from Part 2 to Part 5? Yeah right, talk about scewing up storytelling by changing the storylines from Parts 2-4 in Part 5.

I'm done with this series.

Completely and utterly wrong.

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They didn't change the writing at all. Amanda was set to take over Jigsaw's work, but Hoffman was also an accomplice. However, Amanda was simply another pawn in Jigsaw's game before his death. As, the Saw films have taught us, nothing happens by chance in Jigsaw's games.

[Meeklo]

Originally Posted by thecroshow

at least get the line right if you're going to quote Mallrats and Dogma *edit* i think they used that line at the very end of JSBSB right? in any case, i hate it when someone butchers a quote!

That was quoted right, I just got done watching all 6 movies this weekend. The only difference was in Mallrats he said "Tell him Steve-Dave" and didn't use the word "you".

[newone]

I didnt hate 4 or 5 but I think they weren't as good. I think ending it after 3 would have made this a great trilogy.

[jkwest]

yeah...what was in that box!? I forgot about that....hmm...

5 was the weakest...not enough torture scenes, too much in the cops life...The Saw movies weak points have always been their acting...#5 had too much acting and not enough situation...this one never had the OMG moment that all of the other ones have had for me...I was dissappointed..

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by ckent22

Completely and utterly wrong.

[Show spoiler]
They didn't change the writing at all. Amanda was set to take over Jigsaw's work, but Hoffman was also an accomplice. However, Amanda was simply another pawn in Jigsaw's game before his death. As, the Saw films have taught us, nothing happens by chance in Jigsaw's games.

Thanks for the explanation. It still does not make me like this movie though.

[Anthony P]

[Show spoiler]No, because everything Jigsaw did with Amanda was revealed to have been ANOTHER game in the 4th one I think. Hoffman and Amanda were helping him all along, but Jigsaw working with Amanda was just a part of an extended game with her, a game that she ended up losing.

I would not put it that way, but I would ask him if he ever actual saw the first saw, after all through the whole movie you had a not so dead man on the floor and an evil mastermind who was actually being tested like the rest. Saw is all about subterfuge and questioning if what you see is what you think you are seeing.

Now for my version of the answer to his question

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1) Yes Amanda was considered at some point as a possible replacement, but why do you think she had to be the only one?
2) Yes she did help with some of the plans, and yes while watching the previous episodes it was easy to dismiss some of the nonsensical "facts" (holes), like how could Amanda or Jig get the arrest files of the other criminals, some of those traps where big and heavy, how could she and Jig move them or put the person in them....
3)Jig was using both and trying to make them in this image, Amanda from the get go was more in it for the gore and revenge, that is why Jig gave her one final test to see if she would play by the rules. The rule being that we are all missing a piece hat takes us away from enjoying our lives and making them worth living and we should all have a chance to learn the lesson and go on living "full" lives.
4) your "time line" is off 1-Amanda is a victim seen in a flash back, 2-Amanda is back in a test, at the end we find out that she was not part of the test but an organizer 3- Amanda is seen in flash backs that she played a role in several other traps but always made sure there was no out but it is her big test and fails and dies with Jig, 4-people are questioning the wife and Hoffman disappears (we find out at the end that he set up this trap but not clearly why) 5- Hoffman is revealed to have helped with many traps and in many instances and is the person taking up the mantle of Jigsaw

[jvoorhees]

Havent read any of the other posts other then the first one... but I will agree it wasnt great... but it was "needed" to progress the story to the 6th one... I guess like a transition piece??

I have a feeling the next one is gonna be good!!! Its the last one too isnt it? Arent they thinking of doing 6 and thats it?

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by StanDaMan99

unfortunately they're still making boatloads of money. But HOPEFULLY they *said* this would be the last one. Lets hope

Or for those of us who like the series let's not hope.

[Anthony P]

I know, how hard is it not to go see a movie you assume you won't like? We get it some people have no taste and can't understand the saw series, why shouldn't the rest of us that don't fall into those categories not be allowed to see them?

[BScratcha]

My ratings:

Saw: 7.5/10
Saw 2: 8
Saw 3: 7
Saw 4: 7.5
Saw 5: 6

[cblanco]

Originally Posted by nothing.sound

First off, I was very dissapointed in this movie. IMO it is the worst in the series. Anyways my question is why the heck do they have a poster of someone with jigsaw's face starpped on to theirs?? When I saw this poster I thought it was sweet and couldn't wait to see it happen in the movie. Well it had absolutley nothing to do with the movie, unless it's like symbolic or something because other people are carrying out jigsaw's role. But anyways did this piss anyone else off?? Also I felt that jigsaw was barely in this one.

I know six is in production but seriously how far can they stretch it since jigsaw has been dead since number 3. He is the whole franchise and they killed him off. That was where they went wrong. All for a suprise ending that frankly is getting tiresome having to have a twist at the end of every movie.


What's everyone's thoughts on this movie?

When I first saw the poster I thought it was Hoffman with Jigsaw's face, but when I went to Saw-mania last year & asked Saw 6 director Kevin Greutert about the poster he told me that it's actually Agent Straham in the poster with Jigsaw's face. For those of you that have seen the movie, you know at the end Hoffman makes it seem that it was Straham that was helping out Jigsaw. Thats the meaning of the poster.

[crazy88]

so how was this in relation to blu-ray again?

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by newone

I didnt hate 4 or 5 but I think they weren't as good. I think ending it after 3 would have made this a great trilogy.

I think you have a very good point. Unfortunately and producers and production company didn't see it that way. It's turned into yet another horror franchise a'la Friday the 13 and Halloween. It would have been better to leave as a trilogy like Scream.

[mpstjohn]

While it would've been great to end it as a trilogy since the series creators had abandoned it, Saw 3 ends on a cliffhanger.

It was obviously Leigh Whannell's assumption, given where he left the premise, that the next film would pick up with Jeff's story arc. Unfortunately the new screenwriters either didn't realize this or the actor playing Jeff wasn't available for long enough for them to make this work because the character occupies barely a minute of Saw 4.

Too bad, the only thing motivating me to see Saw 4 was to see what would happen with Jeff after the end of part 3.

They abandoned that and instead decided to recycle everything that'd already been done with the previous 3 films, albeit with new characters.

The same could be said of Saw 5 which is little more than an attempt to fill in the plot holes left open by the new screenwriters by backtracking to every scene in the previous movies and offering a different perspective on what'd already worked better in its execution the first time around.