When are they going to make fullscreen Blu-ray movies for widescreen TVs?

[Johnnybandit]

I have a HD Player and a blu ray player, along with an HD tv. You would expect the higher end equipment and format wpould give you more options, but all the new movies in both formats are coming out letterbox. It is easy to make a high def movie when the pixels are only used on half of the screen. Is it me or does this really make others mad. I have come to the point where I am not buying anymore movies until I have options. they dont even specify on the box if it is widescreen o fullscreen. I think it is lazy production, because letterbox is easier.

[BStecke]

It has nothing to do with lazy production, it's the aspect ratio of the movies, some are wider than others, and your tv is not as wide as the aspect of the film. There are MANY threads on this topic. Blu-ray is released, as the director intends, in the original aspect ratio of the film. That's as much option as you need.

[ben7ben3]

i don't understand this point of view...you are getting the full movie in full hd, so why does it matter if there are black lines on the top and bottom? just because the tv is widescreen does not mean the entire tv has to be filled..

when you are talking about making these fullscreen, that will just take away some of the movie (though less than DVD fullscreen, true) and i personally hate losing the sides of a movie, and all the top movies today are released in 2.4:1 ratio, or something like that, and if you are making it a 1.8:1 ratio, you really are taking quite a bit off the sides

im curious, do any of your tvs have a zoom option so that you can get rid of the black bars if you want? this might remove that problem for you, which i dont really think is a problem.

oh, and eventually there probably will be "full screen" and "widescreen" versions of blu ray when it wins the format war, but for now they are released as they are in theatres, and itsn't that truly what you should want to see anyway?

[jedivball]

The following links explain the famous "black bar" question.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5528

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=4038

[Deane Johnson]

Persons who don't understand the aspect ratios of movies vs the shape of the 16:9 screen probably shouldn't be investing in such things until they have done some additional research.

[Blu As Hell]

[QUOTE=Johnnybandit;163371] I have come to the point where I am not buying anymore movies until I have options.
I think it is lazy production, because letterbox is easier.[/QUOTE

You might not be buying any movies for a long time.

It's not lazy production. Movies are filmed in a variety of aspect ratios, the most common of them are 1.85:1 and 2.40:1. 1.85:1, when played on a 16:9 widescreen TV will fill up the entire screen, 2.40:1, which is also known as scope, will have the black bars at the top and the bottom of your screen. There are no TV's on the market now that are manfactured to have a 2.40:1 movie fill the screen. If there were televisions of that type you would then have black bars on the left and the right of your tv for 1.85:1 movies wouldn't fill the screen up at the sides. Now since you have a problem with the black bars the only thing that would work for you is to get a projector and a screen, but just like in a movie theatre you would need some adjustable curtains on the sides to accommodate the different aspect ratios for different movies.

BTW fullscreen sucks, OAR forever!!!!!

[howarmat]

Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

Persons who don't understand the aspect ratios of movies vs the shape of the 16:9 screen probably shouldn't be investing in such things until they have done some additional research.

haha +1

[Blu As Hell]

Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

Persons who don't understand the aspect ratios of movies vs the shape of the 16:9 screen probably shouldn't be investing in such things until they have done some additional research.

I totally agree!!!!!

[Petra_Kalbrain]

I don't think the original post is referring to the idea of "fullscreen" as a 4:3 "square tv display" image. I'm almost positive it is referencing the idea of filling a widescreen TV completely. The inherent problem with this question is not with the Studios or their home release formats or with the manufacturers of the TVs. The problem lies in the equipment being used to film the actual footage at the onset production level. Directors & cinematographers make their decisions about the aspect ratio based on how it can best portray their vision.

[buckshot]

hahahahahahaha this is always really funny to me.

how about taping some cardboard over the black bars? would that make it better?

[aristotles]

I think this guy would prefer to see most movies authored onto Blu-ray in 1:85:1 instead of the wider aspect ratios some movies are filmed in since the former would basically fill a 16:9 screen when taking into account overscan.

An example of such a title would be Castaway on DVD as it fills the entire screen.

See this poll thread:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3795

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by Johnnybandit

I have a HD Player and a blu ray player, along with an HD tv. You would expect the higher end equipment and format wpould give you more options, but all the new movies in both formats are coming out letterbox. It is easy to make a high def movie when the pixels are only used on half of the screen. Is it me or does this really make others mad. I have come to the point where I am not buying anymore movies until I have options. they dont even specify on the box if it is widescreen o fullscreen. I think it is lazy production, because letterbox is easier.

Do you own a VCR? Most movies in the VHS format are fullscreen.

[Jack Torrance]

Originally Posted by aristotles

I think this guy would prefer to see most movies authored onto Blu-ray in 1:85:1 instead of the wider aspect ratios some movies are filmed in since the former would basically fill a 16:9 screen when taking into account overscan.

An example of such a title would be Castaway on DVD as it fills the entire screen.

See this poll thread:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3795

A lot of widescreen TV's have a zoom function, so he could just do that if black bars are so offensive.

[darkpoet25]

I honestly don't understand people who complain about aspect ratios. I'd rather watch the movie as the director intended, not streched or zoomed in to fill the screen. Besides that full screen movies lop off a third of the picture to fill a tv screen, hence the term pan and scan.

[aristotles]

Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

A lot of widescreen TV's have a zoom function, so he could just do that if black bars are so offensive.

*SIGH* You're not getting it. Zoom will cut off information an you are "digital zooming" in thereby no longer displaying the image at the proper resolution.

I would prefer for most films to use the 1:85:1 apect ratio as it most closely matches 16:9 displays. In fact, directors should have to justify use of a wider aspect ratio. I think many directors are just being lazy.

[Blu As Hell]

[QUOTE=aristotles;163432 I think many directors are just being lazy.[/QUOTE]



How do you figure it's being lazy?

[ToonyLoons]

Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

A lot of widescreen TV's have a zoom function, so he could just do that if black bars are so offensive.

That is what I would suggest. Using the Zoom feature. Other then that, people that want their films to fill their wide screens need to do informed shopping and look at the aspect ratio before they buy.

I am glad that Blu-Ray are only available in widescreen the way the film was created. After my first few widesreen movies, I really didnt care about the black bars.

[dentalrep]

I am one of those who understands aspect ratios but I still HATE black bars. I paid $4000 for a 1080p TV and I want the whole screen filled. I own 40 Blu-ray movies but lately I find myself buying 1.85:1 movies just because it does fill the screen. I also do not like to zoom because names are cropped off or subtitles are lost because someone thought it would be cool to put then in the black area.

[tvted]

Originally Posted by aristotles

I would prefer for most films to use the 1:85:1 apect ratio as it most closely matches 16:9 displays. In fact, directors should have to justify use of a wider aspect ratio. I think many directors are just being lazy.

No issue with my screen, 2.35 *is* FULL SCREEN for me, so you are saying that I must tolerate black columns down the side when all source is 1.78? (I do btw).

One of my lesser fears is that the vast majority of the TV generation being ignorant of how film is made, will demand that all movies be made with 1.78 ratios.

ted

[WriteSimply]

I vote that this thread is closed or moved to the many other FULLSCREEN threads.


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