NIN WAV playback on PS3 - Blu-ray Forum

Jello · 02-20-2009, 09:18 PM

I downloaded the NIN album in HQ wav format 24bit/96kHz, but the only thing that plays it is my computer. I have an Oppo, but it nor the PS3 plays them natively. I'm thinking that I have to convert them to DVD-a format and then can play them on the Oppo. Is there a way to play them (in hd) on the PS3?

Jello · 03-11-2009, 12:40 AM

I downloaded a trial version of DVD Audio Solo from their website. It converted them to DVD audio files and burned to a dvd. Played back on my Oppo with no problems. No way to play them on the PS3 unless you downconvert them.

http://www.cirlinca.com/products.htm

bhampton · 03-13-2009, 10:03 PM

I made a DVD of them using my macbook that I played back on my PS3 and I don't believe they got downconverted.

I just used the graphics supplied for each song for the video.

Still wish I liked NIN... I keep trying but can't see any value in thier stuff except for the soundtrack to Quake .... I liked that and haven't heard anything else they were involved in that I can listen too.

EDIT - I can't remember where I put the disc but I bet the PS3 could tell me what the audio portion was and therefore confirm that I processed it right... maybe I'll look for my copy (hope I didn't throw it out.)

Edited again- Found my copy ... the slip... I'm going to go see what the PS3 says the audio format is.

-Brian

bhampton · 03-13-2009, 10:16 PM

Hey,

Looks like I was incorrect... I guess I did downconvert the files. When I made the disc it didn't seem to re render so I thought it came out right but the PS3 claims it has 48Khz 1.5Mbs or something like that.

Listening to it again though reminded me that I didn't care.... maybe someday...

-Brian

Jello · 03-14-2009, 02:03 AM

Well you have to admit the price is right!

dobyblue · 03-14-2009, 12:26 PM

I'm not keen on The Slip either, but I did just acquire a copy of Pretty Hate Machine on vinyl and it is fantastic. I like everything up to With Teeth, the 5.1 DualDisc of that is 24/48 and an excellent disc altogether.

Year Zero and The Slip, I just can't get into them.

The only way to play 24/96 2.0 files is to burn them as a DVD-Video, but I'm not aware of any software to do that. The Oppo plays DVD-A discs and so DVD Audio Solo will be creating the disc with the files in the AUDIO_TS folder. You should see if there are any other options if you must play them with the PS3, but the quality won't improve over the Oppo.

Doyle Lowrance · 03-14-2009, 08:18 PM

you can burn them in MP3 format on a DVD and they will play fine on the PS3.

Doyle

Jello · 03-14-2009, 08:55 PM

This forum is call Blu-ray music and high quality music, not craptastic mp3 music

dobyblue · 03-14-2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doyle Lowrance

you can burn them in MP3 format on a DVD and they will play fine on the PS3.

Doyle

Yeah but then they're .mp3's which is a far cry in quality from 24/96 .flac files which are several times better fidelity than CD.

Josh · 03-21-2009, 12:21 AM

Is there a program that converts wav to PCM? That would be ideal.

Jello · 03-21-2009, 05:00 AM

I thought wav was pcm? If you rip a music cd to your computer uncompressed it is stored as a wav file so if not the same, they are damn close. Now what I think your talking about is taking a 24bit/96kHz wav file and converting it to 24bit/96kHz PCM so that the PS3 can play it? I don't think you could do it with DVD but maybe a blu-ray...I don't know much about the blu-ray audio spec.

Bobby Henderson · 03-21-2009, 05:47 AM

With regard to the 24/96 quality tracks, I would suggest a Blu-ray based authoring solution.

The last couple versions of the Adobe Production Studio (CS3 and CS4) have had Blu-ray authoring built in. Still, it seems like a lot of work and expense (BD-R blanks aren't exactly cheap) just to get 24/96 audio to work in something like a PS3. It would be nice if the PS3 had some improved handling of music files from attached devices. For one thing, I would like to see some support for FLAC lossless and Apple lossless music tracks.

The lossless support would come in handy for folks like me who have fairly large libraries of store bought CDs. I recently bought a 1TB external hard disc to use in backing up all of my CDs -roughly 400 or so discs. I ended up only using about 1/5 of the 1TB device's hard disc real estate. Still, with lossless support the user could append meta-data, like artist, album name, image thumb nails, etc. Using CD-quality WAV files, you're pretty much stuck with the song title alone and using twice the hard disc space that you should be using.

Josh · 03-23-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jello

I thought wav was pcm? If you rip a music cd to your computer uncompressed it is stored as a wav file so if not the same, they are damn close. Now what I think your talking about is taking a 24bit/96kHz wav file and converting it to 24bit/96kHz PCM so that the PS3 can play it? I don't think you could do it with DVD but maybe a blu-ray...I don't know much about the blu-ray audio spec.

I was just thinking (as I try to download some uncompressed NIN tracks) that if you could convert the wav files to a PCM format that any Blu-ray player could read, then you'd have - essentially - a Blu-ray Audio disc. I wouldn't think it would be an easy as changing the file extension, but maybe it is? Of the three approved lossless audio formats for Blu-ray (PCM, TrueHD, and MA), only PCM is "free", and would make the most sense for home enthusiasts.

02-20-2009, 09:18 PM	#1
Jello Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:40	NIN WAV playback on PS3 I downloaded the NIN album in HQ wav format 24bit/96kHz, but the only thing that plays it is my computer. I have an Oppo, but it nor the PS3 plays them natively. I'm thinking that I have to convert them to DVD-a format and then can play them on the Oppo. Is there a way to play them (in hd) on the PS3?

03-11-2009, 12:40 AM	#2
Jello Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:40	Update! I downloaded a trial version of DVD Audio Solo from their website. It converted them to DVD audio files and burned to a dvd. Played back on my Oppo with no problems. No way to play them on the PS3 unless you downconvert them. http://www.cirlinca.com/products.htm

03-13-2009, 10:03 PM	#3
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	I made a DVD of them using my macbook that I played back on my PS3 and I don't believe they got downconverted. I just used the graphics supplied for each song for the video. Still wish I liked NIN... I keep trying but can't see any value in thier stuff except for the soundtrack to Quake .... I liked that and haven't heard anything else they were involved in that I can listen too. EDIT - I can't remember where I put the disc but I bet the PS3 could tell me what the audio portion was and therefore confirm that I processed it right... maybe I'll look for my copy (hope I didn't throw it out.) Edited again- Found my copy ... the slip... I'm going to go see what the PS3 says the audio format is. -Brian Last edited by bhampton; 03-13-2009 at 10:11 PM.

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
how to prevent PS3 from outputting MP3/WAV in PCM 5.1 channels?	PS3	quitemouse	27	09-16-2008 03:19 AM
portable wav file player?	General Chat	bhampton	0	08-20-2008 01:39 PM
Playing FLAC -> WAV from a DVD on the PS3... question for y'all...	PS3	jvoorhees	0	07-08-2008 12:44 AM
Where can I get a wav file of the start up sound	PS3	Danv1369	8	04-12-2008 12:35 AM

03-13-2009, 10:16 PM	#4
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Hey, Looks like I was incorrect... I guess I did downconvert the files. When I made the disc it didn't seem to re render so I thought it came out right but the PS3 claims it has 48Khz 1.5Mbs or something like that. Listening to it again though reminded me that I didn't care.... maybe someday... -Brian

03-14-2009, 02:03 AM	#5
Jello Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:40	Well you have to admit the price is right!

03-14-2009, 12:26 PM	#6
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	I'm not keen on The Slip either, but I did just acquire a copy of Pretty Hate Machine on vinyl and it is fantastic. I like everything up to With Teeth, the 5.1 DualDisc of that is 24/48 and an excellent disc altogether. Year Zero and The Slip, I just can't get into them. The only way to play 24/96 2.0 files is to burn them as a DVD-Video, but I'm not aware of any software to do that. The Oppo plays DVD-A discs and so DVD Audio Solo will be creating the disc with the files in the AUDIO_TS folder. You should see if there are any other options if you must play them with the PS3, but the quality won't improve over the Oppo.

03-14-2009, 08:18 PM	#7
Doyle Lowrance New Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Houston, Texas 4K collection:299 Blu-ray collection:1032	you can burn them in MP3 format on a DVD and they will play fine on the PS3. Doyle

03-14-2009, 08:55 PM	#8
Jello Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:40	This forum is call Blu-ray music and high quality music, not craptastic mp3 music

03-21-2009, 12:21 AM	#10
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	Is there a program that converts wav to PCM? That would be ideal.

03-21-2009, 05:00 AM	#11
Jello Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:40	I thought wav was pcm? If you rip a music cd to your computer uncompressed it is stored as a wav file so if not the same, they are damn close. Now what I think your talking about is taking a 24bit/96kHz wav file and converting it to 24bit/96kHz PCM so that the PS3 can play it? I don't think you could do it with DVD but maybe a blu-ray...I don't know much about the blu-ray audio spec.

03-21-2009, 05:47 AM	#12
Bobby Henderson Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Oklahoma Blu-ray collection:96 Blu-ray reviews: 12	With regard to the 24/96 quality tracks, I would suggest a Blu-ray based authoring solution. The last couple versions of the Adobe Production Studio (CS3 and CS4) have had Blu-ray authoring built in. Still, it seems like a lot of work and expense (BD-R blanks aren't exactly cheap) just to get 24/96 audio to work in something like a PS3. It would be nice if the PS3 had some improved handling of music files from attached devices. For one thing, I would like to see some support for FLAC lossless and Apple lossless music tracks. The lossless support would come in handy for folks like me who have fairly large libraries of store bought CDs. I recently bought a 1TB external hard disc to use in backing up all of my CDs -roughly 400 or so discs. I ended up only using about 1/5 of the 1TB device's hard disc real estate. Still, with lossless support the user could append meta-data, like artist, album name, image thumb nails, etc. Using CD-quality WAV files, you're pretty much stuck with the song title alone and using twice the hard disc space that you should be using.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals