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Old 03-05-2009, 02:10 PM   #1
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Anyone seen anything like this? A cheap(er) crown molding that can hide speaker wires?
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:55 PM   #2
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just get one that has a large enough top, or you could router out the back........


I'm thinking of putting molding up in our "front" room, that will have small lights in it, beeming light "Upward"

They are 10' coved ceilings.... so we want to create separation, and dimension... so we're thinking of putting molding up about 8' or so, and having lights accentuate the cove/curves in the ceiling We're obviously going to need wires for that, and we're told it's not tough to do... so speaker wire should be the same.....

I'm not sure, but to be safe I'd use In-Wall wires though... just to make sure there are no code issues.... if you had molding with a lip on the top, you could probably just staple it to the top of the molding though, and it would be out-of-sight....
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Google WireTracks.
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Google WireTracks.
good for hiding wires..... but I think (I could be wrong) he's looking for an actual crown molding.... i.e. architectural detail.
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Isn't there some dead space behind crown molding to begin with?
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Isn't there some dead space behind crown molding to begin with?
There is some space but depending on the size of the wire a router would make a nice snug fit.
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good for hiding wires..... but I think (I could be wrong) he's looking for an actual crown molding.... i.e. architectural detail.
I think they have a crown molding app. , but if not, I know somebody makes one.
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There is some space but depending on the size of the wire a router would make a nice snug fit.
Gotcha. Thanks.

Great avatar by the way.
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http://www.wiretracks.com/prod-cm.html

You can go through the added hassle of this^^^, but it's not necessary. Typical 3"-4" crown has plenty of space behind it to run wires. Just be careful not to shoot your nails into them.

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I saw wiretracks yesterday, and the company is basically out of business.

I also found this stuff, which may do the trick:

http://cableorganizer.com/surface-ra...-raceways.html
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http://www.wiretracks.com/prod-cm.html

...Just be careful not to shoot your nails into them.
Ouch!
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I saw wiretracks yesterday, and the company is basically out of business.

I also found this stuff, which may do the trick:

http://cableorganizer.com/surface-ra...-raceways.html
Don't know if you'll be satisfied with the look when your done. Depending on your room size you'll have a lot of joints(each section is only 5'). I ran my speaker wire around the top of my room and tacked it up with a stapler(like the one in office space). Then I punched a small hole in the sheetrock about 3" from the ceiling and fed the wire through the hole to a low voltage box for the speakers and one behind my stand for the receiver. I then ran standard 4 1/4" crown around the room. I bought it at Lowes for around $20 a piece(12').
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There is plenty of room behind the crown to hide the wires. Like someone said, make sure when you shoot the nail it goes into stud, but if they are clipped to the ceiling there won't be a problem. I've seen this done on HGTV many times and will start this soon myself.
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:18 PM   #14
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just get one that has a large enough top, or you could router out the back........


I'm thinking of putting molding up in our "front" room, that will have small lights in it, beeming light "Upward"

They are 10' coved ceilings.... so we want to create separation, and dimension... so we're thinking of putting molding up about 8' or so, and having lights accentuate the cove/curves in the ceiling We're obviously going to need wires for that, and we're told it's not tough to do... so speaker wire should be the same.....

I'm not sure, but to be safe I'd use In-Wall wires though... just to make sure there are no code issues.... if you had molding with a lip on the top, you could probably just staple it to the top of the molding though, and it would be out-of-sight....

it's a good look, but i would go 9' on the crown.
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Old 03-09-2009, 03:49 PM   #15
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it's a good look, but i would go 9' on the crown.
I agree. You don't want to bring it down too low because then it will look like shelving. I've seen it usually anywhere from 6-12 inches below the actual ceiling depending on the look you want. Personally, I like the crown molding closer to the ceiling, but its just a personal thing.
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There is plenty of room behind the crown to hide the wires. Like someone said, make sure when you shoot the nail it goes into stud, but if they are clipped to the ceiling there won't be a problem. I've seen this done on HGTV many times and will start this soon myself.
Anyone happen to know of any decent DIY videos for a project like this?
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I agree. You don't want to bring it down too low because then it will look like shelving. I've seen it usually anywhere from 6-12 inches below the actual ceiling depending on the look you want. Personally, I like the crown molding closer to the ceiling, but its just a personal thing.

Totally agree. A good guide is to chalk line a 1:1 measurement to your crown height.

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5 1/2 " Crown should be 11" from the ceiling as a base line which would give you a 5 1/2" visual empty space above it. Even if the crown is 5.5" size but not 5.5" height, if you know what I mean (5.5" crown will only be ~4" high). Visually, from the ground, it will seem like 5.5".

And remember, like video screens, bigger crown is usually better (especially with 10' ceiling heights).

My 5.5" crown looked huge when I bought it, but once I put it up on the 10' ceiling, it didn't look as big.
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Anyone happen to know of any decent DIY videos for a project like this?
http://video.about.com/homerenovatio...ing-Basics.htm

http://video.bobvila.com/m/21320119/...wn-molding.htm

http://www.installcrown.com/

Just to name a few that I found when I Googled it.
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I just got done doing this over the weekend for my sides. We were able to pop-out the pre-existing moulding, run the wire in (there was actually a gap between ceiling and wall sheet-rock that we were able to snug the wire into) and then we just nail-gunned the moulding back up. As long as you hold the moulding up snug to the ceiling, you can do a horizontal nail in (so you don't risk shooting a nail through the wire). For the rears, we went up into the ceiling, across the room and down, so we only had to run them behind the moulding for a short bit. It's definitely a work-in-progress right now. If I can, will try to post pictures to my gallery (still in the process of renovation and move-in on a 50-year-old house, so it may be a little while).
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I just got done doing this over the weekend for my sides. We were able to pop-out the pre-existing moulding, run the wire in (there was actually a gap between ceiling and wall sheet-rock that we were able to snug the wire into) and then we just nail-gunned the moulding back up. As long as you hold the moulding up snug to the ceiling, you can do a horizontal nail in (so you don't risk shooting a nail through the wire). For the rears, we went up into the ceiling, across the room and down, so we only had to run them behind the moulding for a short bit. It's definitely a work-in-progress right now. If I can, will try to post pictures to my gallery (still in the process of renovation and move-in on a 50-year-old house, so it may be a little while).
a 50 year old house in NJ is considered "new construction". i am working on 120 years on mine.
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