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Old 12-09-2019, 01:45 PM   #1
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The First Amendment and the very idea of free speech are under attack in America today. A growing number of Americans don't believe you have the right to speak your mind if what you have to say might offend someone, somewhere. They advocate for "safe spaces" in which people won't be offended by ideas they may find troubling. But is that what America is about?

In NO SAFE SPACES, comedian and podcast king Adam Carolla and radio talk show host Dennis Prager travel the country, talking to experts and advocates on the left and right, tour college campuses, and examine their own upbringings to try to understand what is happening in America today and what free speech in this country should look (and sound) like.
“An excellent film, the best I've seen on the subject of free speech. I especially like Dennis's line, 'They have to believe we are evil; otherwise they'd have to debate us.' Perfect.”
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:50 PM   #2
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Help help my speech is being attacked - Now playing in theaters, everywhere …
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:56 PM   #4
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This is what people say when their opinions aren’t accepted as much anymore. Sorry, but that’s not the same thing.
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Freedom of Speech is not Freedom from Consequences.
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Old 12-09-2019, 04:09 PM   #6
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I see they're crowdfunding the release for this on Indiegogo and 10 people have donated $2,000 to smoke a cigar with Dennis Prager; for that price, I'd keep the cigar in the case and s
[Show spoiler]hove it up my ass
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Help help my speech is being attacked - Now playing in theaters, everywhere …
Exactly. I'm going to go all over the place and talk to people about how I can't talk to people anymore.

OK.
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Exactly. I'm going to go all over the place and talk to people about how I can't talk to people anymore.

OK.
Free Speech is only for certain people though. In another thread Damon said this.


Since they all say the same thing and routinely insult half their audience, one has to wonder if they are earnest or just following the script. It isn't possible for that many to be in lockstep without outside pressure. So yes, they should just shut up.
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group of people make a movie about not being able to freely say whatever you want because free speech is under attack.

Same group of people are allowed to release said movie because nobody cares and free speech was never under attack.

What a farce.
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group of people make a movie about not being able to freely say whatever you want because free speech is under attack.

Same group of people are allowed to release said movie because nobody cares and free speech was never under attack.

What a farce.
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Free Speech is only for certain people though. In another thread Damon said this.


Since they all say the same thing and routinely insult half their audience, one has to wonder if they are earnest or just following the script. It isn't possible for that many to be in lockstep without outside pressure. So yes, they should just shut up.
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I didn't write the movie. It seems you just want to start an argument to help get the thread locked.
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I didn't write the movie. It seems you just want to start an argument to help get the thread locked.
Do you not see the irony in releasing a movie about how your ability to freely express yourself is under attack, though?

I have never, not once, felt that the government was in any way limiting what I was able to say or not say. Never.

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I didn't write the movie. It seems you just want to start an argument to help get the thread locked.
It is inevitable.
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Old 12-09-2019, 04:52 PM   #14
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Free speech is not under attack. This whole argument is just manufactured outrage, or else a whine that nobody wants to hear the awful stuff you're saying.
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Do you not see the irony in releasing a movie about how your ability to freely express yourself in under attack, though?

I have never, not once, felt that the government was in any way limiting what I was able to say or not say. Never.
I do. Does that mean it shouldn't be allowed to be posted here? It's in theatres around here now just like most of the other movies posted here, yet I'm attacked for posting it. All the words in the OP are quoted.
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I do. Does that mean it shouldn't be allowed to be posted here? It's in theatres around here now just like most of the other movies posted here, yet I'm attacked for posting it. All the words in the OP are quoted.
Who said you can't or shouldn't post it? Post whatever you want.

Personally I think it's hilarious, and anything involving Prager is almost guaranteed to be comedy gold. But who said anything about how it shouldn't be allowed?
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Help there's no safe place for me to be racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc... What's the world coming to?
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I think it's funny how both sides get up in arms about this. You have people in here mocking the intention of this film, yet they keep posting the same thing over and over.

What's that one word, "triggered"? Yeah. Triggered much?

Anyway,

Not sure about the point of this film. No one will watch it lol. I do think specific elements of "free speech" are being attacked, though. I'm not a fan of the whole "hey, let's cherry pick who can and cannot speak at specific institutions", or the concept of demonetizing specific individuals on specific platforms, just because of the type of language they use (I'm talking general profanity, not hate speech or anything extreme like that). So there is certainly merit to specific areas of free speech being targeted. Not everything that revolves around this discussion has be based entirely on political topics.

The United States is definitely getting a little too 1984 for my tastes.

And that's all I'll say on the subject, as I'm not even sure what this forum's policy is when it comes to political or social topics in the first place.
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I think it's funny how both sides get up in arms about this. You have people in here mocking the intention of this film, yet they keep posting the same thing over and over.

What's that one word, "triggered"? Yeah. Triggered much?

Anyway,

Not sure about the point of this film. No one will watch it lol. I do think specific elements of "free speech" are being attacked, though. I'm not a fan of the whole "hey, let's cherry pick who can and cannot speak at specific institutions", or the concept of demonetizing specific individuals on specific platforms, just because of the type of language they use (I'm talking general profanity, not hate speech or anything extreme like that). So there is certainly merit to specific areas of free speech being targeted. Not everything that revolves around this discussion has be based entirely on political topics.

The United States is definitely getting a little too 1984 for my tastes.

And that's all I'll say on the subject, as I'm not even sure what this forum's policy is when it comes to political or social topics in the first place.
Except that conflating people liking or disliking what you have to say, even to the point of not inviting you to speak at their university graduation, for instance, with specifically freedom of speech is the primary problem here. Look, someone telling you to, "Please, shut the hell up," at a bar and an intrusion on freedom of speech are as alike as ... hmm, I can't even think of an appropriate simile here. But they are not alike at all.

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution states in part as follows:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;
As far as I know, Congress is doing nothing of the kind, nor are they planning on doing any such thing. Everyone's freedom of speech is fully intact. You are free to say whatever you want, within legal reason of course. You can't spout government secrets, for example. But no one, and certainly not the government, is imposing on your rights as guaranteed in the Constitution.

Now, whether people *like* what you have to say, or how you say it, that's an entirely different question. And it has absolutely nothing to with any rights whatsoever.
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