Doctor Sleep (2019)

[bradipolpo]

Could anyone please check the language tracks/subs on the Theatrical cut disc by playing it?
Thanks a lot

[geomon]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

I've stuck with the idea that they should have opened this horror film in… October, instead of the week after.

The Shining released in May and made over twice it's production budget.

[DaveyJoe]

There isn't a single horror film in the top 100 highest grossing November openings. It's a terrible time to dump horror movies.

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by geomon

The Shining released in May and made over twice it's production budget.

A horror movie doesn't have to be released in October or September. It just seems a bit bonkers to put one out the week following the climax of spooky season.

(Now I'm reminded that Nightmare on Elm Street opened in this same way in 1984. I wasn't around to see how that went over, but I'mma look it up.)

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

For the most part the changes were fine even with the political correctness of changing the race of Abra. Black father, white mother that works not a problem. [I haven't seen The Outsiders but making Holly Gibney black? I'm not sure I like that especially given her interactions with Jerome in Mr. Mercedes, oh we have to always be PC ]

I haven't read the book yet but I was wondering if this had been the case. Ultimately I agree that it's not an issue in the film but like you, it does bother me these days how filmmakers constantly feel they need to do things like this in their films just to appease the PC crowd.

[MifuneFan]

Kyliegh Curran who played Abra was excellent. You can argue whether it was for "PC" reasons or not, but if you read what Flanagan says, they saw over 900 girls, yes 900, clearly not all of them black (or non-white), and Kyliegh Curran was the clear choice after her rehearsal with Ewan.

"We saw more than 900 girls trying to find the right one and you hear these stories about Hollywood casting that you hope are true and this is one of those stories," he said. "Kyliegh, who is a complete unknown, who is a local hire - she lived 15 minutes from our production offices - had submitted a tape, didn't have the big agency weight behind her - I don't think she even had a current headshot - and her tape did what it was supposed to do."

Curran's tape kept rising through the levels of the casting process until she made the final few, which included experienced actresses, and got called in to read with McGregor.

"She came in and read with Ewan and as soon as she walked out the room, the door hadn't quite closed yet, and he turned to us and said, 'It's obviously her, right?' and it was, we all completely agreed," the filmmaker recalled. "She's an amazing young talent. You hope in your career that you get to see someone really truly come out of nowhere like that and I'm honoured that we were there to able to see that happen for her because she's really something."

http://www.film-news.co.uk/news/UK/6...n-Doctor-Sleep

[ink1026]

Watched the DC last night and loved it, some of those shots (Rose the Hat floating in space especially) were gorgeous.

[Rizor]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Kyliegh Curran who played Abra was excellent. You can argue whether it was for "PC" reasons or not, but if you read what Flanagan says, they saw over 900 girls, yes 900, clearly not all of them black (or non-white), and Kyliegh Curran was the clear choice after her rehearsal with Ewan.



http://www.film-news.co.uk/news/UK/6...n-Doctor-Sleep

I thought she was very good and the little Abra was good too and looked like a pretty close match for the older one.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

Yeah, but Saw is Saw, a torture porn franchise, with a completely different audience than the one that showed up for Doctor Sleep.

In future, let me suggest that you correctly identify the argument before declaring it dead.

Doctor Sleep has a moment or two in the set-up, and while I would have liked to have seen what someone else would have done with the material, especially with Rose The Hat, I guess that's over now.

I don't know which is sadder, the fact that you believe this film is amazing, or Flanagan soiled what might have been.

I guess we'll never know.

How do you know how different the audience was for Saw? I love horror in all its forms. For the record, I loved this as well. Not as much as The Shining but I did think it was a worthy sequel.
Also, stop having a shitfit about that scene with the kid, it’s horror. There have been countless horrors that feature the death of a child. Horror in general, reflects our fears right back at us. One of those fears for many is losing a child.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Kyliegh Curran who played Abra was excellent. You can argue whether it was for "PC" reasons or not, but if you read what Flanagan says, they saw over 900 girls, yes 900, clearly not all of them black (or non-white), and Kyliegh Curran was the clear choice after her rehearsal with Ewan.



http://www.film-news.co.uk/news/UK/6...n-Doctor-Sleep

Exactly. What makes a film PC is not in the casting of actors but in the idiot writer that feels the need to point out a racial difference. When a writer has to proclaim a persons race or gender in a film to pander to the sjw crowd it weakens the overall performance and I find that to be more insulting as a viewer.

[matt1982]

Watched the film a couple nights ago and LOVED it. As for the box office...my wife and I really wanted to see it opening weekend BUT the only theater around here was only showing it in IMAX opening week. We weren't going to pay twice as much, and this isn't the kind of movie you need to see in IMAX. I don't know about other theaters, but at least around here, THAT is why I think it failed. The following weeks I either had to work or we didn't have money to go see a movie... We missed our window. And then it was gone in like a month, when we still wanted to see it.

[cakefactory]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

Sir. This recurring tone and sentiment is insufferable.

Seriously. Jeez. We get it, you think kids should be invulnerable in movies cause horror has to be safe.

I thought it was uncomfortable and went on for a long time and was also NOT gratuitous. They never at any point show what's actually being done to him, there's lots of crosscutting to other locations and characters during it because it's such a pivotal event in the movie, there's no gore, and it's the point at which that traveling cadre of freaks is actually made out to be a terrifying threat that you want to see killed. They're just kind of whimsically weird and generically evil before. If that scene wasn't there, the stakes would have felt much lower. It's all about character development, it is also by far the most effective horror scene in the movie, and if you can't handle that but are fine with adults being gorily and graphically chopped up in other movies then I am very confused. Sure, it's worse when kids die in real life than adults. This isn't real life.

[Member-222782]

Watched my Blu-ray copy over the weekend. Sorry to deviate from the majority of opinions but this film did absolutely nothing for me. Don't want to get into a heated debate on the reasons why I didn't like it, but I will say that I spent 3 hours watching a film where I couldn't care less about any the characters or their plight. It just didn't work for me. Sorry if anyone is offended by this.

[DaveyJoe]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Watched my Blu-ray copy over the weekend. Sorry to deviate from the majority of opinions but this film did absolutely nothing for me. Don't want to get into a heated debate on the reasons why I didn't like it, but I will say that I spent 3 hours watching a film where I couldn't care less about any the characters or their plight. It just didn't work for me. Sorry if anyone is offended by this.

Hand in your gun and your badge.

[cakefactory]

I thought it was alright. I think it had too much ground to cover and its attention was split too much between the main characters for it to really work. It felt too long, but also paradoxically felt like it would have benefited from being a miniseries. It was in a kind of no man's land of containing too much plot but not enough character development. I didn't really care that much about either main "good" character cause stuff was just breezed by too fast. And some of the dialogue was quite bad (probably straight from the novel, Stephen King is infamous for bad dialogue).

I haven't read the book, but I was just reading about changes from it, and it sounds like most of them were for the better!

[geomon]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Watched my Blu-ray copy over the weekend. Sorry to deviate from the majority of opinions but this film did absolutely nothing for me. Don't want to get into a heated debate on the reasons why I didn't like it, but I will say that I spent 3 hours watching a film where I couldn't care less about any the characters or their plight. It just didn't work for me. Sorry if anyone is offended by this.

[BeastCreatureTrapper]

I caught the theatrical cut this evening. I liked it overall, and was engaged by the changes from the book (which I thought was alright, but also plagued with the usual King clunker of an ending). The only downside of the film was that it did start feeling more rushed once the gears were in motion, with certain characters and situations moving along a little too easily given the stakes in front of them. Maybe the Director's Cut will fix some of this, maybe not. I recommend the film either way.

I was kinda bummed that we didn't get to see Rose's

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[imsounoriginal]

Kinda surprised to not see any Blu-ray copies around at Walmart and Target over the last week. Wasn't looking to buy it anyway (waiting for UHD to go on sale), but just speaking anecdotally, it looks like A) this sold well and B) the decision to make the DC BD-only means people seem to have chosen that format over UHD.

[splintersan]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

[I haven't seen The Outsiders but making Holly Gibney black? I'm not sure I like that especially given her interactions with Jerome in Mr. Mercedes, oh we have to always be PC ]

Holly Gibney is the best part of The Outsider so far and it's a pretty great series. Cynthia Erivo is killing it in the role. I haven't read Mr. Mercedes but I've read The Outsider, I don't give a shit about her skin color, all I care about is the performance given and so far she's the best the show has to offer.

[Gambit1138]

Got to go in-depth on the differences between the Director's and Theatrical cuts. On the whole, Doctor Sleep feels like a richer, more developed experience that's more deliberately paced. It immediately jumped in my rankings to Mike Flanagan's best film.

https://cinapse.co/with-new-director...k-534045364cbb