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IMHO, CGI dog is killing it for me
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Having a 100% CGI dog is a sign of the Apocalypse.
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The only way I'd accept the CGI dog, is. If this was an adaptation of Duck Hunt with Harrison Ford.
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I couldn't help but cringe when I saw this preview in the theater.
Could they not have at least used a real dog for the more tame scenes? I think of films like Homeward Bound and then I look at this and shake my head. |
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Best Buy pre-order.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/the-cal...?skuId=6402028 Target pre-order. https://www.target.com/p/the-call-of...d/-/A-79620067 Last edited by Viking61; 02-21-2020 at 07:27 AM. |
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Soooo, because there's a lot of ignorance out there. Here's Chris Sanders (the director) EXPLAINING why Buck had to be CG, why he looks the way he does (and no, the VFX is not at fault), in addition to Michael Green (writer, exec producer) saying it was also for ethics and safety reasons:
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/02/th...rd-1202212225/ "With Buck, the famed St. Bernard/Farm Collie, serving as the protagonist in Fox’s latest adaptation of Jack London’s wilderness adventure, “The Call of the Wild,” there was never any question that he had to be CG, especially if he was going to hold his own on screen with Harrison Ford. “Here’s the thing: No one is fooled by a CG animal,” said Chris Sanders, who made the transition from animation to a live-action/hybrid after directing “The Croods” and co-directing “How to Train Your Dragon” and “Lilo and Stitch.” “So the question that I confronted early on was: Do we try and make this look like a 100% real dog? Meaning, do we actually have him behaving as though he’s a trained dog on set, but doesn’t hit his marks quite right, and have some takes look as though it was good enough? Or do we have him fulfill the needs of the scene?”" "Sanders, of course, went with the latter, working with MPC Film in Montreal (under the supervision of Erik Nash) to make a photorealistic-looking Buck. However, unlike MPC’s work on Jon Favreau’s “The Lion King,” Sanders chose an anthropomorphic style of performance to make Buck as expressive and relatable as possible for his existential journey in the Yukon Gold Rush of the 1890s. “If an animal talks, [as on ‘The Lion King’], you don’t need a lot of expression,” he added. “You have that shortcut. We didn’t have that shortcut. That was the big question that hung over everything we did ”" "“I chose to have [Buck] be a real character and to really occupy the position where he belongs. In every other version of ‘The Call of the Wild,’ the dog is never really central because Thornton is. We wanted to overcome the limitations of using a real dog. We could only do this with a CG dog. I do think there is a controversial part to that [with how expressive he is]. You get used to it really fast. But we had to judge the performance moment to moment: Is he too cartoony? Does the audience get what he’s thinking?”" "Yet the animation process proved difficult. They weren’t able to locate the precise St. Bernard/Farm Collie breed for live-action reference, so they went with a mostly black Bernese Mountain dog, and MPC built a CG model from scratch. Yet the dark color didn’t read clearly for the night scenes. Then Sanders’ wife, Jessica, came to the rescue, locating a St. Bernard/Shepherd mix at a shelter in Emporia, Kansas (coincidentally, named Buckley). " "Motion capture actor Terry Notary (“The Planet of the Apes” franchise) served as a live actor stand-in for Buck. He acted like a canine and provided spatial reference, general blocking, and staging, giving the actors someone to play against. Sanders, though, would instruct MPC animation director Omar Morsy and his team to use Notary’s facial expressions or attitude in a particular shot as a starting point for Buck. Yet there was no mo-cap interpolation of Notary’s performance involved: Every aspect of Buck’s facial and full body performance was fully keyframed. |
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I know it ultimately won't matter as people get hung up on the weirdest things sometimes, but hopefully it can still be somewhat successful. |
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Blu-ray Samurai
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Lol safety reasons, they do know dogs can be trained or can survive in harsh environments, it’s in their nature. This movie’s a joke & wtf was Ford thinking? Guess he needed a check?
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