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Old 03-25-2009, 11:26 AM   #261
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Wow, I'm glad I didnt buy this yet. Thats awful.
As a Swede I'm absolutely gutted by the non-theatrical translation. This isn't a Hong Kong action flick; it's absolutely vital to translate the dialogue accurately to grasp the emotions and thoughts of the characters and the overall mood of the scenes (and the movie in general).

I'm happy to hear that they have decided to fix it for the new releases but it's still a disgrace that they won't exchange the first batch(es).
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:03 PM   #262
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Thats bogus that they aren't exchanging the incorrect copies.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:48 PM   #263
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Stinks to hear the subs are wrong, I still enjoyed just as much as the screener.

I think watching this film without lossless is doing it a disservice. The dialogue is so crisp and clear. You feel the chill in the in the air! And the low frequency pulses throughout the movie are siiiiiick.

I guess I'll wait for the new version and try and do a swap out.
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:59 PM   #264
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Subtitling is a very tricky craft: you must have subtitles short enough that everybody can read them, but without sacrificing any vital part of the message.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:00 PM   #265
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The word about Magnolia repressing the disc with correct theatrical subtitles, but not offering an exchange has got around the online forums.

Let's change their mind about sticking it to folks who already bought the disc by urging them to do the right thing and offer an exchange program. Rather than just bellyaching in here, email them at the address below!

dvd@magpictures.com
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:10 PM   #266
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I think watching this film without lossless is doing it a disservice. The dialogue is so crisp and clear. You feel the chill in the in the air! And the low frequency pulses throughout the movie are siiiiiick.
I agree. The sound design on this is amazing with a lot of use of subtle sounds like the little growls that Eli makes, soft breathing, even tinkling snowflakes that the lossless track simply brings to life. Then all of a sudden the bass comes to life when Eli pounces or someone bangs on the door.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:14 PM   #267
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Whether they allow exchanges or not, I will buy get the new version. Got the dvd version too (I know, gross right) because it had one of those shifting picture things like on pogs back in the day. Totally worth it.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:59 PM   #268
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im selling my copy of the BD on ebay.
I had no idea that there was a problem as I had not had a chance to watch it, after I heard I checked and it was true.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:02 PM   #269
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Does anyone know about the Canadian release? Apprently someone on iconsoffright.com was saying the Canadian version has the correct subtitles (same as the theatre) and also has the lossless audio.
Any truth to this?
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:16 PM   #270
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The word about Magnolia repressing the disc with correct theatrical subtitles, but not offering an exchange has got around the online forums.

Let's change their mind about sticking it to folks who already bought the disc by urging them to do the right thing and offer an exchange program. Rather than just bellyaching in here, email them at the address below!

dvd@magpictures.com
emailed!
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:36 PM   #271
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I sent an email, hopefully they allow an exchange.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:43 PM   #272
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I was able to return my Blu-ray at amazon without penalty. I will think about re-rdering when a corrected version is available.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:53 PM   #273
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The word about Magnolia repressing the disc with correct theatrical subtitles, but not offering an exchange has got around the online forums.

Let's change their mind about sticking it to folks who already bought the disc by urging them to do the right thing and offer an exchange program. Rather than just bellyaching in here, email them at the address below!

dvd@magpictures.com
Email sent, thanks; and I hope many bluray.com members do the same.
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:27 PM   #274
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Thank you very much for The Digital Bits link. I, too, love this film and was just about to buy it; I will wait for the new, improved version.
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:56 PM   #275
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guess i'm screwed seeing as i live in the UK and imported! ah well, we probably won't get this lovely film released here so i will have to stick with it. better wrong subtitles than no film at all i guess.....
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:25 PM   #276
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The word about Magnolia repressing the disc with correct theatrical subtitles, but not offering an exchange has got around the online forums.

Let's change their mind about sticking it to folks who already bought the disc by urging them to do the right thing and offer an exchange program. Rather than just bellyaching in here, email them at the address below!

dvd@magpictures.com
I wrote them an email as well. Telling them I'm not buying anymore of their sub-standard products, and will be informing everyone I know to do the same.

I still enjoyed the movie. It just irks me that they knowingly released a product of low quality, obviously they agree it was low if they are going to re-release it.

Hope some good news comes out of this!
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Old 03-25-2009, 07:08 PM   #277
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Does anyone know about the Canadian release? Apprently someone on iconsoffright.com was saying the Canadian version has the correct subtitles (same as the theatre) and also has the lossless audio.
Any truth to this?
Some one else commented that he also got the Canadian release, but he said it's the same as the US release with the wrong subs. I wouldn't take the risk trying out.
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Old 03-25-2009, 07:10 PM   #278
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While they're at it, how about making the Swedish (with theatrical english subtitles) the default audio track? Say no to dubbed audio!
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Old 03-25-2009, 07:22 PM   #279
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^Yep, it's a sin that it defaults to the crap English dub. Unfortunately a lot of people will unknowingly leave it and be subjected to terrible voice acting.
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Old 03-25-2009, 07:27 PM   #280
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Thats bogus that they aren't exchanging the incorrect copies.
If you read the official reply from the company.. the current subtitles are not incorrect at all. The company chose to change them from the theatrical version.. there was no mistake made to warrant anything being incorrect. They are just changing them to a different version to appeal fans.
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