Warner Bro. ally or foe? - Blu-ray Forum

Petey Pablo · 08-26-2007, 03:41 PM

I am wondering if WB is actually on our side? They have release a loy of films on Blu, but we still don't see some of the ones that are out on HDDVD; Charley and the Chocolate Factory, Batman Begins ect. What are they waithing for? Will they be turning Blu exclusive this fall or are they the one studio that is trying to stake claim in being the one that killed off the big Blu monster!

w_tanoto · 08-26-2007, 03:48 PM

Warner Bros is a member of Board of Director of BDA, and is ONLY a general member of HD DVD consortium

I'd say with nickerson gone (HD DVD backer), we can look WB as ally (they also give direct comparison between the formats - in which BD always has higher sell number).
Time will tell. I can't guarantee my own words. They might also be a foe.

WickyWoo · 08-26-2007, 03:48 PM

They have been waiting so they can port all the features, including PiP over to Blu

Batman Begins is coming before the end of the year

Maximus · 08-26-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

They have been waiting so they can port all the features, including PiP over to Blu

Batman Begins is coming before the end of the year

Well that was the official line. We all know that Nickerson was a bigger sticking point than BD-J ever was.

MrBogey · 08-26-2007, 03:52 PM

We're better allied to them than Stalin was with Churchill.

w_tanoto · 08-26-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Petey Pablo

I am wondering if WB is actually on our side? They have release a loy of films on Blu, but we still don't see some of the ones that are out on HDDVD; Charley and the Chocolate Factory, Batman Begins ect. What are they waithing for? Will they be turning Blu exclusive this fall or are they the one studio that is trying to stake claim in being the one that killed off the big Blu monster!

Also don't forget:
some titles like The Polar Express and Troy, will be released in BD, which means HD DVD is losing its exclusive titles one by one, slowly but surely

jayd · 08-26-2007, 03:58 PM

Ally, Warner won't ditch Blu-ray. They would have seen the fallout after the Paramount decision, and had feedback, These are not stupid people, and know which format is making them money.

mike_schultz · 08-26-2007, 04:07 PM

WickyWoo, where did you hear Batman Begins will be coming by the end of the year? I really hope so- love that movie.

WickyWoo · 08-26-2007, 04:11 PM

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Well that was the official line. We all know that Nickerson was a bigger sticking point than BD-J ever was.

Indeed, though I have a major feeling that the real deal was that they agreed to keep 25 titles on a 1 year exclusive (it CANNOT be a conincidence that exactly 25 HDs have yet to show on blu,and they're all good titles)

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WickyWoo, where did you hear Batman Begins will be coming by the end of the year? I really hope so- love that movie.

Many of the forum insiders have said it, among other places.

Irrob · 08-26-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

They have been waiting so they can port all the features, including PiP over to Blu

Batman Begins is coming before the end of the year

I would love to believe this. I need more convincing.

yankeedawg21 · 08-26-2007, 04:25 PM

i remember when The Matrix came on HD DVD Warner said the only reason its not on blu ray yet is because The BD Java wasn't ready yet

w_tanoto · 08-26-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeedawg21

i remember when The Matrix came on HD DVD Warner said the only reason its not on blu ray yet is because The BD Java wasn't ready yet

meaning they JUST ONLY wait for BD-J????

Thanks.... I thought it was something else holding them back.

JTK · 08-26-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Irrob

I would love to believe this. I need more convincing.

I need press releases and discs in my hands.

j_rocca42 · 08-26-2007, 04:35 PM

I think WB will see the err in their ways when they do release tittles liek the matrix, batman, etc. when they see how well they sell. I know people have been waiting for these flix for a while help them sell their HD-DUD counterparts.

dakota81 · 08-26-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeedawg21

i remember when The Matrix came on HD DVD Warner said the only reason its not on blu ray yet is because The BD Java wasn't ready yet

BD Java is ready - players with a second hardware video decoder aren't ready.

coolmilo · 08-26-2007, 04:54 PM

It would be in Warner's best interest to release Batman Begins and The Matrix trilogy this holiday season. Every Blu-ray supporter wants Batman Begins as a stocking stuffer.

whippersnapper · 08-26-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Petey Pablo

I am wondering if WB is actually on our side? They have release a loy of films on Blu, but we still don't see some of the ones that are out on HDDVD; Charley and the Chocolate Factory, Batman Begins ect. What are they waithing for? Will they be turning Blu exclusive this fall or are they the one studio that is trying to stake claim in being the one that killed off the big Blu monster!

Any "neutral" studio that allows its consumers to choose which format is preferred is, as far as I'm concerned, in the Blu-ray/Consumer alliance. If Warner gets to the point where only 1/4 or so of its sales are on Blu-ray, then the consumers would have "voted" for HD-DVD and Warners would be justified in dropping Blu-ray. So please treat them as in our "alliance" and continue to buy their Blu-ray products. Hopefully they'll begin to follow normal business processes and decide to produce more of their output on Blu-ray.

BluDrew · 08-26-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by w_tanoto

Warner Bros is a member of Board of Director of BDA, and is ONLY a general member of HD DVD consortium

I'd say with nickerson gone (HD DVD backer), we can look WB as ally (they also give direct comparison between the formats - in which BD always has higher sell number).
Time will tell. I can't guarantee my own words. They might also be a foe.

Microsoft is only a general member of the HD DVD promotions group also. I wouldn't put too much stock in this.

WickyWoo · 08-26-2007, 05:45 PM

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BD Java is ready - players with a second hardware video decoder aren't ready.

Well, since all the Warner stuff is 480p, it's very possible that most current players CAN handle it.

For example, I'll bet dollars to donuts that the Pioneer Elites can, the PS3 can, and likely the Panasonics as well. Maybe they can't handle 1080p PiP, but 480 should be no problem at all.

The number of titles with 1080 PiP of anything actually useful will be amazingly small, both because of costs, and because virtually no one is going to have the non-movie box at fullscreen.

Maybe there's something I'm missing on the tech end, but we really should just be talking raw horses. As I understand it that's how HD DVD does it, they just stuck way more CPU power in there than they could possibly need and get around the HDi issues and PiP that way.

dialog_gvf · 08-26-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeedawg21

i remember when The Matrix came on HD DVD Warner said the only reason its not on blu ray yet is because The BD Java wasn't ready yet

Warner is/was waiting for Profile 1.1, and specifically the PiP feature.

BD Java (BD-J) is in every player now. Although the particular BD-J extensions to support Profile 1.1 may or may not be.

Gary

08-26-2007, 03:41 PM	#1
Petey Pablo Member Member since:Jul 2007	Warner Bro. ally or foe? I am wondering if WB is actually on our side? They have release a loy of films on Blu, but we still don't see some of the ones that are out on HDDVD; Charley and the Chocolate Factory, Batman Begins ect. What are they waithing for? Will they be turning Blu exclusive this fall or are they the one studio that is trying to stake claim in being the one that killed off the big Blu monster!

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08-26-2007, 03:48 PM	#2
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	Warner Bros is a member of Board of Director of BDA, and is ONLY a general member of HD DVD consortium I'd say with nickerson gone (HD DVD backer), we can look WB as ally (they also give direct comparison between the formats - in which BD always has higher sell number). Time will tell. I can't guarantee my own words. They might also be a foe.

08-26-2007, 03:48 PM	#3
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	They have been waiting so they can port all the features, including PiP over to Blu Batman Begins is coming before the end of the year

08-26-2007, 03:52 PM	#5
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	We're better allied to them than Stalin was with Churchill.

08-26-2007, 03:58 PM	#7
jayd Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Manchester, UK	Ally, Warner won't ditch Blu-ray. They would have seen the fallout after the Paramount decision, and had feedback, These are not stupid people, and know which format is making them money.

08-26-2007, 04:07 PM	#8
mike_schultz Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Hurricane Alley (Orlando, FL)	WickyWoo, where did you hear Batman Begins will be coming by the end of the year? I really hope so- love that movie.

08-26-2007, 04:25 PM	#11
yankeedawg21 Member Member since:Feb 2007	i remember when The Matrix came on HD DVD Warner said the only reason its not on blu ray yet is because The BD Java wasn't ready yet

08-26-2007, 04:35 PM	#14
j_rocca42 Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Recording live from somewhere Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:13	I think WB will see the err in their ways when they do release tittles liek the matrix, batman, etc. when they see how well they sell. I know people have been waiting for these flix for a while help them sell their HD-DUD counterparts.

08-26-2007, 04:54 PM	#16
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	It would be in Warner's best interest to release Batman Begins and The Matrix trilogy this holiday season. Every Blu-ray supporter wants Batman Begins as a stocking stuffer.

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