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ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 04:10 PM

i didnt know what other forum to put this in, so sorry if this is the wrong one. im in the middle of finishing my HT and i need to buy new ethernet cables for my ps3 and my 360. are Cat5e cables the same thing as ethernet?? also, i need some sort of staples or something to run these along my baseboard, so they are not very noticeable. any suggestions??

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 04:31 PM

yea, cat5e is the same as cat5 but just enhanced...I would recommend going with Cat6...must better bandwidth...hope that help

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10232

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 04:34 PM

as for the staples..I would use the round wire clamps that are use for speaker cables....

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azncarbos

yea, cat5e is the same as cat5 but just enhanced...I would recommend going with Cat6...must better bandwidth...hope that help

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10232

do cat6 cables work with anything? or only on newer model machines?? i dont need to worry with the ps3 or 360, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by azncarbos

as for the staples..I would use the round wire clamps that are use for speaker cables....

do you have any suggestions on where i can find these?

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceBB

do cat6 cables work with anything? or only on newer model machines?? i dont need to worry with the ps3 or 360, right?

do you have any suggestions on where i can find these?

Cat6 will work with any network and device.

as the clamps...

they look like this

http://www.goodmart.com/products/83586.htm

....and come in different size....I would check out a local Home depot or a fry's electronics if you have out there in your area.....they are usually around 2.00 to 10.00 a box of 25 or 50....

mtbkr · 04-23-2009, 04:55 PM

is it possible to tuck the wire under the base board as not to accidentally staple through the wire?

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 04:58 PM

you could but it going to be hard to do that....unless there carpet....plus the clamps I recommend would not go through the cable....

mtbkr · 04-23-2009, 05:12 PM

under the base board is esthetically nicer if it is an option. if you are going the staple route then just be careful not to push the stapler hard against the wire when you staple. it can crush or cut into the wire.

mtbkr · 04-23-2009, 05:15 PM

if you go under the base board watch out for those tac strips. they will poke holes in the wire easily.

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 05:25 PM

how would i even go about going under the baseboard?? i would love to do that, but wouldnt really know how.

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 05:28 PM

how do those clips even work?? does the nail go into the baseboard?? also, im going to be running 2 cables along the same route, so would i need 2 sets of clips?

mtbkr · 04-23-2009, 05:57 PM

well...take a pencil or pen and see if it will fit in the space between the bottom of the base board and the carpet. pencils are roughly the same size as alot of wires. if the base board was installed to close to the floor than its a no go. another trick is to pull the carpet out from under the base board, put the wire in the small space between the tac strip the floor and the baseboard, then tuck the carpet back in. this can be difficult as you dont want to pull the carpet off the tac strip. those clips are nice but will put holes in the baseboard. they just hammer in. they do make double wire clips or you can do one the zip tie the second.

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 06:01 PM

thanks for all the help guys...

Sammy · 04-23-2009, 06:08 PM

Cat 5e will work just fine for this application. Going forward for devices that haven't been created yet you may want Cat 6 in the wall. That said, my son's xBox 360 is wired with Cat 3 that was put in the wall / attic 10 or so years ago and it streams netflix movies just fine!

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 06:21 PM

here is a question i just thought of...

i have cable running through the ceiling and down the wall from my router which is 2 rooms over. im not sure what cable we used because it was done like 4 years ago. would it matter if there is cat5 cable in the wall and then cat6 cable from the wall to the ps3? in other words does the cable in the wall need to match the cable outside??

mtbkr · 04-23-2009, 06:28 PM

no it wont matter

Hammie · 04-23-2009, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceBB

here is a question i just thought of...

i have cable running through the ceiling and down the wall from my router which is 2 rooms over. im not sure what cable we used because it was done like 4 years ago. would it matter if there is cat5 cable in the wall and then cat6 cable from the wall to the ps3? in other words does the cable in the wall need to match the cable outside??

The only benefit for going with Cat6 is if you have a potential 10Gig network -- not currently supported in residential quality equipment. Most residential networks do not need anything above a Cat5/5e grade wire since they both support 10Mbps/100Mbps/Gig-E networks (although Cat5 may not be suitable for Gig-E). They all use 8 wires with an RJ-45 end.

The downside with Cat6 is the stiffness. If you need to bend it, you may find that you don't have enough room. Problem locations are usually between a device and wall or within a wall cavity.

The main difference between Cat 5 and Cat5e is the number of twists per inch. This helps reduce cross-talk and makes it a more reliable cable.

The last thing, which should not be an issue in most homes, is the 300ft (100m) distance limitation of Ethernet cables.

In summary, cat5e is the cable of choice that I would recommend to most home owners looking to wire a home Local Area Network (LAN).

Good luck!

Cisco in HD · 04-23-2009, 06:41 PM

I have a question regarding cat5 & 6 cabling. Would I be safe to assume cat6 cable is similar in difference between 12 vs 16 gauge speaker wire? Meaning, it's a thicker wire suited for longer runs. Let's say runs over 25ft or so. And under 25ft cat5 cable would be best. Am I correct in this assumption?

mtbkr · 04-23-2009, 06:41 PM

only two of the four pairs in the cat5 are being used for data transfer as long as you have them crimped down into the rj45 correctly.

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 06:43 PM

here is my situation...

i used to have the cables go directly into the wall through a cat5 wall plate which used to be right behind my tv. since i moved my tv about 10 feet away from that spot, i was just gonna run the cables along the baseboard. now im starting to think that it might be just as easy to unplug that wall plate and pull it back up the wall, then fish it down to where my tv is now and make a whole new wall plate. we have drop ceiling so it would be easy to access the cable. what do you guys think?

04-23-2009, 04:10 PM	#1
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	Networking Cables i didnt know what other forum to put this in, so sorry if this is the wrong one. im in the middle of finishing my HT and i need to buy new ethernet cables for my ps3 and my 360. are Cat5e cables the same thing as ethernet?? also, i need some sort of staples or something to run these along my baseboard, so they are not very noticeable. any suggestions??

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04-23-2009, 04:31 PM	#2
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	yea, cat5e is the same as cat5 but just enhanced...I would recommend going with Cat6...must better bandwidth...hope that help http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10232

04-23-2009, 04:34 PM	#3
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	as for the staples..I would use the round wire clamps that are use for speaker cables....

04-23-2009, 04:55 PM	#6
mtbkr Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:washington(state) Blu-ray collection:65	is it possible to tuck the wire under the base board as not to accidentally staple through the wire?

04-23-2009, 04:58 PM	#7
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	you could but it going to be hard to do that....unless there carpet....plus the clamps I recommend would not go through the cable....

04-23-2009, 05:12 PM	#8
mtbkr Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:washington(state) Blu-ray collection:65	under the base board is esthetically nicer if it is an option. if you are going the staple route then just be careful not to push the stapler hard against the wire when you staple. it can crush or cut into the wire.

04-23-2009, 05:15 PM	#9
mtbkr Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:washington(state) Blu-ray collection:65	if you go under the base board watch out for those tac strips. they will poke holes in the wire easily.

04-23-2009, 05:25 PM	#10
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	how would i even go about going under the baseboard?? i would love to do that, but wouldnt really know how.

04-23-2009, 05:28 PM	#11
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	how do those clips even work?? does the nail go into the baseboard?? also, im going to be running 2 cables along the same route, so would i need 2 sets of clips?

04-23-2009, 05:57 PM	#12
mtbkr Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:washington(state) Blu-ray collection:65	well...take a pencil or pen and see if it will fit in the space between the bottom of the base board and the carpet. pencils are roughly the same size as alot of wires. if the base board was installed to close to the floor than its a no go. another trick is to pull the carpet out from under the base board, put the wire in the small space between the tac strip the floor and the baseboard, then tuck the carpet back in. this can be difficult as you dont want to pull the carpet off the tac strip. those clips are nice but will put holes in the baseboard. they just hammer in. they do make double wire clips or you can do one the zip tie the second.

04-23-2009, 06:01 PM	#13
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	thanks for all the help guys...

04-23-2009, 06:08 PM	#14
Sammy Power Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Right next to Wineville, CA Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:199 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	Cat 5e will work just fine for this application. Going forward for devices that haven't been created yet you may want Cat 6 in the wall. That said, my son's xBox 360 is wired with Cat 3 that was put in the wall / attic 10 or so years ago and it streams netflix movies just fine!

04-23-2009, 06:21 PM	#15
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	here is a question i just thought of... i have cable running through the ceiling and down the wall from my router which is 2 rooms over. im not sure what cable we used because it was done like 4 years ago. would it matter if there is cat5 cable in the wall and then cat6 cable from the wall to the ps3? in other words does the cable in the wall need to match the cable outside??

04-23-2009, 06:28 PM	#16
mtbkr Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:washington(state) Blu-ray collection:65	no it wont matter

04-23-2009, 06:41 PM	#18
Cisco in HD Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:West Palm Beach, FL Trading Score:3	I have a question regarding cat5 & 6 cabling. Would I be safe to assume cat6 cable is similar in difference between 12 vs 16 gauge speaker wire? Meaning, it's a thicker wire suited for longer runs. Let's say runs over 25ft or so. And under 25ft cat5 cable would be best. Am I correct in this assumption?

04-23-2009, 06:43 PM	#20
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	here is my situation... i used to have the cables go directly into the wall through a cat5 wall plate which used to be right behind my tv. since i moved my tv about 10 feet away from that spot, i was just gonna run the cables along the baseboard. now im starting to think that it might be just as easy to unplug that wall plate and pull it back up the wall, then fish it down to where my tv is now and make a whole new wall plate. we have drop ceiling so it would be easy to access the cable. what do you guys think?

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