NOOOO!!!(terminator)

[The Mr Safety]

Originally Posted by supersix4

yeah just like Alien and predator movies its R or nothing.

That is true. Predator and Alien are R so this should be as well. I mean avp 2 was R and it was so dark you could barely see the violence lol and it still got an R rating.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by The Mr Safety

But when we talk about Terminator, the whole war with the Machines is the most violent part because they are killing all the humans that are left. I'm pretty sure alot of people would be cussing so much and all the violence should be really bloody. This movie should be R but the studios want it to be "family friendly" and they want to sell some kids action figures. God, these people should already be rich that make these movies. Give the fans what they want you money grubbing sons of b*tches.

Congratulations. You officially don't know what you're talking about.

[MCT]

now wait a minute, friend. You openly admit you thought Spidey-3 and X-Men 3 were passable movies, while in the same breath stating that TDK wasnt great. You are in no position to throw stones from a glass house.

[The Mr Safety]

Originally Posted by Beast

Congratulations. You officially don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah I do. They made it pg-13 because they want some cash. Sure they will make more with a pg-13 rating, but Terminator has a huge fan base that an R would still make alot of money for the studios not to worry. They even said they wanted to make it pg-13 because they made a deal with some toy company to make some terminator salvation action figures. And you don't even like TDK so I don't think you know what your talking about.

[krazeyeyez]

ahh i miss the golden age of action guy movies with a big old rated R and lots of good stuff to pull that big R, i will still see this but i am getting tired of this pg-13 bs to pull younger audiences or to be PC so all the peachy keen people don't get upset that hollywood is corrupting our youth.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

Originally Posted by Sussudio

seriously? i mean that's your opinion so whatev, but give the guy a break. i certainly respect him for trying to branch out and try different things instead of staying with charlies angles-type movies. christian bale obviously saw something in him and that aside i dont see how it's so hard to give this guy at the very least a chance. as for the rating, i'm sorry but a movie is not made by it's rating. the story and the acting are what really counts imo--not the amount of violence/nudity/profanity/etc--and whatever rating is slapped on as a result is trivial to me. who...cares...what it's rated

i agree with these statements 100%

i dont judge a movie by its rating
i judge it by its acting, writing, directing, etc.
i couldnt care less what the rating is

i'm glad they didnt just add in extra violence/profanity/sex/nudity for the sake of having it rated R

i've never understood why people get so hung up on ratings

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by PH3AR

I just saw the new trailer for Terminator:Salvation and it said it was PG-13 i know there were other threads saying it may be but now its offcial i am really sad and i dont even know if i want to see this movie anymore!

A lot of fantastic movies are PG13...I would forfeit watching the movie,just because it is not rated "R".

[MCT]

Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

ahh i miss the golden age of action guy movies with a big old rated R and lots of good stuff to pull that big R

yeah its a shame. Years of neutered movies has led to American males successfully being emasculated. Just take a look at this thread.

"Cursing and boobies and blood?? Ewwwwwwww grossssss who wants that? I want a giant rainbow at the end"

[Diesel]

whats wrong with someone not wanting over the top cursing and gore or gratuitous nudity in their movies?
that's their personal tastes, that doesn't make them any less of a man if they don't want to see or hear all of that
its what they like to see in movies and what they don't like to see

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Diesel

whats wrong with someone not wanting over the top cursing and gore or gratuitous nudity in their movies?
that's their personal tastes, that doesn't make them any less of a man if they don't want to see or hear all of that
its what they like to see in movies and what they don't like to see

Very well said! I agree 100%

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

I agree. Many older "R" movies, if made the same today, would not be rated R, they would be PG-13. Content needs more attention then the actual rating of a movie. There are some R rated movies that are good, some are crappy. Same with PG-13 etc. AS times change, so do ratings.

[koontz1973]

The only thing I do not want to see or hear in movies of this type are mobile phones and little kids, going "GROSS", "UGH", "MOMMY, I NEED A WEE".

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

Wow. When's the last time you've seen these movies? Other then network or cable TV?

Originally Posted by funnymanbing

I'll pass because it's not directed by James Cameron.

This is probably the most logical reason for not going to see the movie so far.

Originally Posted by cvm

I agree. Many older "R" movies, if made the same today, would not be rated R, they would be PG-13. Content needs more attention then the actual rating of a movie. There are some R rated movies that are good, some are crappy. Same with PG-13 etc. AS times change, so do ratings.

This would not be true of the Terminator movies though. In fact I only know of one movie that has ever had it's original rating changed and that's A Clockwork Orange. It was originally rated X in the early 70's then in the 80's the MPAA changed it to R.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by dgator783

I agree, Terminator 1 or 2, shouldnt be rated R....if an R, a very light R....In Terminator 1, you actually do not see people getting shot until the terminator enters the police station and still very little blood. Arnolds naked frame and some language got that an R, not the violence....and the same with 2....not the violence.....Salvation will be fine, its not like the Terminator or J. COnner is gonna say "Yippe KYIA Mother Fu*ker" every other line....

You forgot a Nekkid Linda Hamilton for the first one, and as everyone knows, you can blow away as many people as you want so long as nobody sees boobies.

Logan

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by funnymanbing

I agree that they should make the best movie possible, but studios want movies to be PG-13 just so teenagers can go see it. I think Terminator is a movie that should be rated R, so if anything they are cutting stuff to snag a PG-13 rating, not adding gratuitously for an R. Just a personal opinion.

Action does not necessitate an R rating. This is a sci-fi action picture. It does not necessarily need gore, heavy cursing, sexuality, or nudity, and it is those things that would give it an R rating. In addition, while logically speaking, machines should be able to decimate the humans (which would require gore), more likely would be that the film will show the humans holding their own against the machines, meaning less violence against humans and more violence against machines.

And it's true. If they DID cut things to get a PG13, you'll never know until the home video release when they do an unrated cut, and at that point, you'll have gotten what you wanted in the first place anyway. Who cares? I'm certainly not going into seeing the picture knowing they cut things out, and you shouldn't make that assumption either (nor should you assume as much when walking out; I was 95% sure TDK was going to have an R rated home video release and it didn't happen).

Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

There is a certain realistic freedom that comes with an R rating. It's not worrying about barriers.

This is wrong. More often than not, a NC-17 picture is rated so because of sexuality, but it's entirely possible to get it for language or violence. This is because there is no defined rules of rating and it all depends on what the people who rate it feel like. There's an excellent documentary called "This Film is Not Yet Rated". I suggest you folks who aren't familiar with the MPAA rating system check it out.

Originally Posted by cvm

I agree. Many older "R" movies, if made the same today, would not be rated R, they would be PG-13. Content needs more attention then the actual rating of a movie. There are some R rated movies that are good, some are crappy. Same with PG-13 etc. AS times change, so do ratings.

As a related connection: plenty of movies originally rated X (back when X was a designation offered by the MPAA) have since been re-rated as R without changes. Noteworthy examples here are A Clockwork Orange and Midnight Cowboy.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by Diesel

whats wrong with someone not wanting over the top cursing and gore or gratuitous nudity in their movies?
that's their personal tastes, that doesn't make them any less of a man if they don't want to see or hear all of that
its what they like to see in movies and what they don't like to see

You're looking at it the wrong way man.

I mean for the most part the people who don't want it to be PG-13 are people who wouldn't be allowed into a rated R movie anyway.

I mean someone has to make the folks happy that chuckle uncontrollably whenever they see an actual female breast on screen... right?

Logan

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by The Mr Safety

That is true. Predator and Alien are R so this should be as well. I mean avp 2 was R and it was so dark you could barely see the violence lol and it still got an R rating.

I don't follow.

Predator and Alien have NOTHING to do with Terminator, so why should Terminator be rated R if Alien and Predator are...?

That's like saying since Strawberry Shortcake is rated G, so too should Terminator Salvation.

Logan

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

You're looking at it the wrong way man.

I mean for the most part the people who don't want it to be PG-13 are people who wouldn't be allowed into a rated R movie anyway.

I mean someone has to make the folks happy that chuckle uncontrollably whenever they see an actual female breast on screen... right?

Logan

its always a fun thread once logan gets here

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by The Mr Safety

That is true. Predator and Alien are R so this should be as well. I mean avp 2 was R and it was so dark you could barely see the violence lol and it still got an R rating.

I must be one of the few that thought AVP2 was perfectly lit and apart from a few scenes that where meant to be extremely dark was perfectly done (in terms of lighting). Though I accept i'm in the minority here. The film though does have aliens killing babies, facehuggers attaching to young kids, people bieng suddenly and bloodily pinned to a wall, a mans facing bieng burnt off and as far as I can tell is in American rating a hard R. (In Australia it only got an MA).

Originally Posted by The Mr Safety

Yeah I do. They made it pg-13 because they want some cash.

You don't know that. Maybe this was the intended cut by the director and it wasn't cut down to get a pg13 rating. I also think the lack of success in America for AVP2 will lead to more R rated franchises bieng forced down to pg13, as they gave the fan base of a sucesfull series what they wanted and earned significantly less as a result.


An interesting side note, in Australia all the Terminator films have been rated M (which is the closest equivelant to pg-13 in America). Aliens was rated M (the first, third and forth where MA). Ratings are for all intensive purposes arbitrary. Some of my favourite films are only rated pg (such as the fifth element), and trhe fifth element certanly had it fair shar of violence and gore [albiet often alien blood and guts]).

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by Diesel

its always a fun thread once logan gets here

What else did I miss? I've been editing all weekend. *LOL*

Logan