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Originally Posted by DarkEco910
Not complaining. Simply jest and irony. I thought the emojis I used would have conveyed that. Clearly not...
Carry on.
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The other poster was making fun of themselves, not criticizing you. They're saying it read like that and they still clicked on it.  |
Yeah unfortunately, I can't read sarcasm online really well. The last time I made a sarcasm online, I ended up with me getting people asking me "Are you serious", or threaten to call police or law enforcement on me because I made a sarcasm where people couldn't tell I was being sarcastic. I'm not the only one, I couldn't tell if the sarcasm was really for real, or are they being serious.
BTW, vertigop1ayer, I will talk to you in more detail after replying this other person post.
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I wouldn't panic. I don't expect subscription services to have a permanent library. That's just not how the business model works. Now, if things were removed from my iTunes library, that's a different story ...
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I'm aware of that, when it comes to digital download (ie: Movies Anywhere) and subscription streaming service. I have to assume those can be removed at anytime. Thank goodness I have my physical blu-ray collection.
But yeah, I'm starting to gain more and more knowledge about the limitation of subscription streaming, and digital download.
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Correct. We do not know the terms of the deal. There are short-term deals and long-term deals. Netflix may have the show for a season, it flops, they cancel it, and then let it expire after say five or 10 years. At that point it reverts back to Warner Media, who may or may not decide to do anything with it. On the other hand, it could be wildly successful and Netflix could keep paying for the show for decades. Something in between those scenarios is more likely, but you get the point! |
Yeah that's what I thought. So it's possible for a Netflix "original" to end up becoming a HBO Max Originals 5 or 10 years from now on. For Sweet Tooth, I go for the latter because WB already got HBO Max, and the Sweet Tooth adaptation from Netflix was planned before HBO Max debuted. So I think it's very likely this Netflix's "original" could end up going to HBO Max at some point.
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They aren't the first Netflix Originals to leave, nor will they be the last. This is particularly problematic for people like me who enjoy more niche (in the US) content like TV series from Korea, because once they revert back to their original owner, the vast majority of those series are not going to be popular enough for another streaming service like Disney+ or Peacock to want it versus what other content they could license for the same money. Sure, The Mandalorian is too big to ever leave streaming no matter who owns Star Wars in the future. But anything which isn't reasonably popular becomes much riskier.
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Makes me wonder how many Netflix originals was removed from Netflix. Do you know anyone that keep track of how many Netflix's "originals" get disappeared from Netflix?
Regarding the part I bold and underlined. Yes, that is very concerning for people (that includes me) that like lesser well-known or niche content. Yes, I'm one of those audiences that like watching foreign (as in non-English language) TV dramas and films from East Asia and Europe. It's not only Netflix's foreign language original content that I get concerned about that could get removed from their platform. I'm also scared of lesser well-known content like
Explained being removed from Netflix (assuming if it does get removed, and hope it find it's way back into Youtube). I would be alarmed if
History of Swear Words or
Spycraft (disclaimer: I'm watching both of them on Netflix as of this post) ended up getting removed in the near future or a decade from now on.
Yes it's unfortunate that
YA Entertainment had to close down. But remember this was before streaming blew up like crazy. Also I don't know if YA Entertainment would even survive today despite streaming sites like Netflix,
KOCOWA, Viki, etc.... The fact that YA Entertainment never released their dramas in blu-ray. So I don't know how many people would buy K-dramas unless if it was on blu-ray. I'm sure people would still buy the DVDs, but I'm not sure if YA Entertainment would even survive today.
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Many will, but many won't. If it's exceptionally popular like The Crown or Stranger Things, it's in Netflix's interest to keep making deals for that content.
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Even if what you said is true, the damage has already been done when the announcement of Netflix's 2 original TV shows being removed on the platform. Hell, on HBO Max when I found out several WB content will be leaving HBO Max, I have to re-watch
Justice League: Gods and Monsters because it's going to be gone from HBO Max. And I'm not making this up, here's a screenshot via my HBO Max:
See, not even WB content last long on HBO Max which really frustrate me. I watched this film several times when it was available on other streaming sites, but seeing this movie getting removed from HBO Max really increase my frustration with streaming in general.
Justice League: Gods & Monsters is not the only WB film that is getting removed from HBO Max. I have to finished watching several films I wanted to watch on HBO Max because those are going to be gone at the end of the month. I've also
mentioned in another post about Disney+ removing their own content without telling their customer about it.
This is why I have a love-hate relationship with streaming.
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The "near future" is unlikely for those shows, assuming you mean within the next several years. But beyond a decade, who knows?
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That's why I'm going to monitor streaming under strict observation. I'm going to monitor Netflix, Disney+, and HBO Max to see how many "original" content get removed from those platforms. If I see some of my niche Netflix original (even Netflix-created) content(s) getting removed from the platform in the next 10 years, I'm going to raise the alarm on this thread and probably elsewhere.
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No one knows, but Netflix has not been forthcoming about what percent of their Netflix Originals are actually owned by them and wouldn't revert back to a different rights holder. It appears to be generally accepted that very little content at this time is fully owned by Netflix.
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I could say the same for Disney+.
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As I noted earlier, Netflix may be unique in having so much content that isn't actually theirs branded an "original". HBO Max is part of Warner Media, which owns a bunch of the content you get on the service. So Game of Thrones, Doom Patrol, and other shows are owned by them and would only leave if they made a new deal with another entity, etc.
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Uh-huh nope, like I mentioned above, I've been seeing WB content being removed on HBO Max at the end of this month. Also I just mentioned instances of Disney and 20th Century content being removed from Disney+.
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It is, though it's not news to many people who are collectors. A digital purchase where possible is widely expected to not be a solid guarantee either. A Blu-ray or DVD will eventually wear own, can develop flaws, etc. But there's nothing other than physical media which gets you the same more more permanent access to the movie/show in question.
And this doesn't even get to the issue of needing to be subscribed to a service to access it in many cases. Love watching The Mandalorian, for example? Well there's no sudden desire to watch it and dropping it into your Blu-ray player. You'll need to sign up for a streaming service, D+ in this case, to watch it. Just wait for the added pain if we get to a future where companies no longer have monthly plans but want you to buy a bundle (six months, a year, etc) to avoid people burning through a bunch of content and dropping it after a couple of weeks.
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So far none of my DVDs or blu-ray collection hasn't suffered from any defect, or disc rot as of now. And I value physical media in a highest form because they really come in handy if a streaming provider may get hacked and shut down for hours or weeks.
Just FYI: The Mandalorian is really not my thing, but there are Disney+ original contents I do want to watch like all streaming provider's original contents.
It just that when it comes to streaming, I don't want to waste all that money for unnecessary streaming service (I'm looking at you Discovery+, and Apple TV+), and I'm not going to waste additional money on a streaming service where some of my favorite niche content (I'm looking at you Criterion Channel, and HiDive because of you having my favorite Showa-era Godzilla films, and a old school anime I really want to re-watch). I'm already spending enough money for Disney+, and HBO Max. And I'm already using my relative's Netflix and Amazon Prime Video account to watch my stuff online.
As I agreed with
what people are saying online:
There are too many damn streaming services, and they're going to get more expensive for the next few years. There's no way a person would spend a $1000 a month for 7 or 8 streaming subscription.
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