Is George Lucas really a bad Director/Producer? - Blu-ray Forum

redtornado · 05-19-2009, 05:05 AM

In a different thread there was a large volume of haters who were quite sure of themselves that George Lucas sucks. Please be assured that he does not. I for one found the secound trilogy quite enjoyable. Episode 3 is probably the second best of the series period. Lets be fair. Its not easy to follow up the greatest trilogy ever. I think some people went in hating the sequels just to hate them.

So lets face it. He does not suck.

CAB · 05-19-2009, 05:07 AM

I don't think he sucks. I think some of his recent attempts at good films have sucked.

Batman1980 · 05-19-2009, 05:15 AM

I have loved all of his movies I have seen except the 4th Indiana Jones. I still consider him to be the best film-maker of all-time with Steven Spielberg a close second.

toef · 05-19-2009, 05:19 AM

This reminds me of our pal bruce pullen.

Anyway, it'd help if you explained what Lucas supposedly sucks at, because he does suck at some things. He's good at coming up with ideas or general concepts, but when he tries to write those ideas down into scripts or direct them, he sucks at those aspects of making movies.

It's therefore probably not a coincidence that the best SW movie is one of the two that he neither directed nor wrote (or co-wrote) the screenplay for.

Batman1980 · 05-19-2009, 05:20 AM

Oh poo, Empire is not the best SW movie. It's the second best one behind RoTS.

plenipote · 05-19-2009, 05:23 AM

I could have dealt with everything wrong with the prequels, except for one thing: Jar Jar.
Lucas could have redeemed himself in my eyes if this character would have been killed, or just left off the third film, but alas, he was still there.
Ruined the whole thing for me, and for that, Lucas sucks, at least a little bit.

plenipote · 05-19-2009, 05:24 AM

and Empire IS the best of them all!

squirrel101 · 05-19-2009, 05:27 AM

but he did give us Star Wars......what sucks is he hasn't given it to us on BLURAY

pacificvibes · 05-19-2009, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by squirrel101

but he did give us Star Wars......what sucks is he hasn't given it to us on BLURAY

patience young grasshopper, patience.

spcamaj · 05-19-2009, 05:32 AM

he doesnt suck

toef · 05-19-2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DVDave

Word.

For sure.

Batman1980 · 05-19-2009, 05:44 AM

III
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VI
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Oh yeah, I went there.

redtornado · 05-19-2009, 06:08 AM

I think we can all agree that Return of the Jedi is the worst. I mean come on, a legion of the Empires best Stormtroopers get their ass handed to them by Ewoks?!?!? And suddenly the dreaded Imperial fleet has all their TIE fighters destroyed by the rebels. And, if you knew the Rebels had the plans to fly into your Death Star and destroy the main reactor, why wouldnt you block it off before they get there? And am I to believe that a lone A wing into the bridge of the Executioner would totally disable it and make it fly into a Death Star that just happens to be in its path?????

The Empire should have won. Plain and simple.

And why cant Darth Vader use Force lightning?

Batman1980 · 05-19-2009, 06:10 AM

Darth Vader can't use Force Lightning because it has to travel through living tissue and both of his arms were chopped off when he was younger...

jadedeath · 05-19-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DVDave

So let's face it. The Prequels suck and so did Indy 4. Lucas can't direct to save his life and his writing sucks too. Gary Kurtz was the real mastermind behind Star Wars and Empire and Jedi and the Prequels only prove it.

Let's face it, all the

ing in the world isn't going to change the fact that the guy revolutionized movie making and sound design.

And let's also face that DVDave saying something {George Lucas not being able to direct to save his life} does not make it true. In fact, quite the opposite.

Logan

redtornado · 05-19-2009, 06:13 AM

Sounds reasonable, but I would of thought Darth Maul would of figured it out then.

Batman1980 · 05-19-2009, 06:14 AM

Didn't John Williams do the music for Star Wars? Not sure how much Lucas actually had to do with that.

SkillzthatKillz · 05-19-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

III
V
II
VI
IV
I
Oh yeah, I went there.

i agree III is my fav too

Batman1980 · 05-19-2009, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by redtornado

Sounds reasonable, but I would of thought Darth Maul would of figured it out then.

I don't really follow but I was never that impressed with Maul. He was cut down by a padawan learner while he had the high ground and Kenobi was un-armed during his Force jump.

jadedeath · 05-19-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Didn't John Williams do the music for Star Wars? Not sure how much Lucas actually had to do with that.

Hiring him?

Plus sound design compliments music, but they're not necessarily the same thing... ever hear of THX?

Logan

05-19-2009, 05:05 AM	#1
redtornado Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Fox Valley, Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:12 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:323 Digital collection:159 Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:553	Is George Lucas really a bad Director/Producer? In a different thread there was a large volume of haters who were quite sure of themselves that George Lucas sucks. Please be assured that he does not. I for one found the secound trilogy quite enjoyable. Episode 3 is probably the second best of the series period. Lets be fair. Its not easy to follow up the greatest trilogy ever. I think some people went in hating the sequels just to hate them. So lets face it. He does not suck. Last edited by Big Daddy; 05-20-2009 at 07:11 AM.

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05-19-2009, 05:07 AM	#2
CAB Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:::1 4K collection:88 Blu-ray collection:1827 Trading Score:4	I don't think he sucks. I think some of his recent attempts at good films have sucked.

05-19-2009, 05:15 AM	#3
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	I have loved all of his movies I have seen except the 4th Indiana Jones. I still consider him to be the best film-maker of all-time with Steven Spielberg a close second.

05-19-2009, 05:19 AM	#4
toef Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2008 Location:Isla Nublar 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:545 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	This reminds me of our pal bruce pullen. Anyway, it'd help if you explained what Lucas supposedly sucks at, because he does suck at some things. He's good at coming up with ideas or general concepts, but when he tries to write those ideas down into scripts or direct them, he sucks at those aspects of making movies. It's therefore probably not a coincidence that the best SW movie is one of the two that he neither directed nor wrote (or co-wrote) the screenplay for.

05-19-2009, 05:20 AM	#5
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	Oh poo, Empire is not the best SW movie. It's the second best one behind RoTS.

05-19-2009, 05:23 AM	#6
plenipote Senior Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:El Paso, Texas 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:676 DVD collection:22	I could have dealt with everything wrong with the prequels, except for one thing: Jar Jar. Lucas could have redeemed himself in my eyes if this character would have been killed, or just left off the third film, but alas, he was still there. Ruined the whole thing for me, and for that, Lucas sucks, at least a little bit.

05-19-2009, 05:24 AM	#7
plenipote Senior Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:El Paso, Texas 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:676 DVD collection:22	and Empire IS the best of them all!

05-19-2009, 05:27 AM	#8
squirrel101 Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:se , TN Home Theater Gallery:43 Blu-ray collection:337	but he did give us Star Wars......what sucks is he hasn't given it to us on BLURAY

05-19-2009, 05:32 AM	#10
spcamaj Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:new york city Home Theater Gallery:31 Blu-ray collection:327 Blu-ray reviews:20	he doesnt suck

05-19-2009, 05:44 AM	#12
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	III V II VI IV I Oh yeah, I went there.

05-19-2009, 06:08 AM	#13
redtornado Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Fox Valley, Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:12 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:323 Digital collection:159 Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:553	I think we can all agree that Return of the Jedi is the worst. I mean come on, a legion of the Empires best Stormtroopers get their ass handed to them by Ewoks?!?!? And suddenly the dreaded Imperial fleet has all their TIE fighters destroyed by the rebels. And, if you knew the Rebels had the plans to fly into your Death Star and destroy the main reactor, why wouldnt you block it off before they get there? And am I to believe that a lone A wing into the bridge of the Executioner would totally disable it and make it fly into a Death Star that just happens to be in its path????? The Empire should have won. Plain and simple. And why cant Darth Vader use Force lightning?

05-19-2009, 06:10 AM	#14
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	Darth Vader can't use Force Lightning because it has to travel through living tissue and both of his arms were chopped off when he was younger...

05-19-2009, 06:13 AM	#16
redtornado Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Fox Valley, Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:12 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:323 Digital collection:159 Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:553	Sounds reasonable, but I would of thought Darth Maul would of figured it out then.

05-19-2009, 06:14 AM	#17
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	Didn't John Williams do the music for Star Wars? Not sure how much Lucas actually had to do with that.

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