Menace II Society 4K UHD (1993) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Bassaholic · 08-12-2021, 06:47 AM

Never seen this. Which is better, this or BNTH?

MassiveMovieBuff · 08-12-2021, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bassaholic

Never seen this. Which is better, this or BNTH?

Menace II Society is the king of hood films IMHO. Boyz N The Hood is a very good film but, like most of Singleton's early work, tends to get overpreachy and has a more softer side to it at times. Menace II Society is straight up raw, brutally realistic and nasty.

Krynoid-Man · 08-12-2021, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam_ME

Hopefully it includes both versions. The current Blu-ray only has the director's cut.

Criterion are a bit hit and miss when it comes to including multiple edits. Sometimes they do sometimes they just include one.

Ben_UK · 08-12-2021, 08:30 AM

I saw this around a friends house when I was about 12 and was genuinely traumatised. Yes I had quite a sheltered life.

A Tortured Duckling · 08-12-2021, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_UK

I saw this around a friends house when I was about 12 and was genuinely traumatised. Yes I had quite a sheltered life.

You don't have to be sheltered to be traumatized by something that's this realistic in its portrayal of real people doing real things. Shit like this is far more traumatizing than any horror film could ever be, because we know there are people like O-Dog out there today, doing exactly what he did in the film, and worse.

Neutron82 · 08-12-2021, 03:04 PM

look at the muthaf*ckin wheels!

Tone blare · 08-12-2021, 03:15 PM

Hopefully it includes both versions because the directors cut is awful. This movie came out when I was 13 and I remember sneaking into the theater with my cousins to see it and I've seen it countless times since. The theatrical is the way to go.

MifuneFan · 08-12-2021, 03:18 PM

I'm sure the Hughes Brothers will be involved with the release, so it's ultimately up to them which cuts will be included. Since Criterion were the first to debut the Director's cut on laserdisc, and Albert Hughes has stated he prefers the DC, I think that's all we'll see with the UHD release.

SleazyForWeasley · 08-12-2021, 03:36 PM

When people ask "why do you want both cuts?" I think the easiest response is "for posterity." Criterion, as well as other labels are interested in preserving a film in whatever edits have existed over time. Moreso than studios. I was bummed when only the extended cut of Until the End of the World was included on their release even though the extended is the only version I know (I first saw it when the extended cut was release theatrically). And as some have mentioned here and elsewhere, sometimes Director's Cuts are a product of not understanding that there are instances where less is more.

coolguy25 · 08-12-2021, 07:26 PM

can't wait

greendemoncustoms · 08-12-2021, 08:29 PM

This gives me hope for Dead Presidents 4k

cheez avenger · 08-12-2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nice Guy Eddie

Yes, yes, YES! I saw Dead Presidents at the theater on opening night and about a hundred times since. It's one of my most wanted Blu-rays.

I have the digital HD, which is all you can get nowadays as a placeholder. The DVD was not even anamorphic. The digital HD is anamorphic and has DD 5.1.

gates70 · 08-12-2021, 10:46 PM

I'm in but wow the prices are going to be crazy in Canada. The BD's are already very high here.

KidSqueek · 08-12-2021, 11:22 PM

This will officially be my first Criterion purchase. Ever.

Vixen of the Night · 08-13-2021, 01:21 AM

I don't understand those saying the DC "ruins the flow" of the movie. The difference is a few seconds, all more explicit violence.

I think people are mistaking this with Friday, which only has the directors cut on all current releases and that version certainly ruins the flow and the movie!

Retroj23 · 08-13-2021, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vixen of the Night

I don't understand those saying the DC "ruins the flow" of the movie. The difference is a few seconds, all more explicit violence.

I think people are mistaking this with Friday, which only has the directors cut on all current releases and that version certainly ruins the flow and the movie!

That's incorrect. There are scenes with extra dialogue that seems unnecessary (to me anyway) and adds nothing to the scenes.

slimdude · 08-13-2021, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bassaholic

Never seen this. Which is better, this or BNTH?

Boyz N The Hood was good but to me, Menace II Society was better. It was more realistic about the underprivileged life in the urban neighborhood, while Boyz N The Hood is more Hollywood.

Cremildo · 08-13-2021, 02:39 AM

Never seen this. What with all the enthusiasm over this announcement, I'll have to rectify that.

bigdaddyhorse · 08-13-2021, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chocolat

I think not enough people realize how big of a deal this is to be selected as a first batch release 4k criterion. It's a great film with a great opening and a Bill Duke cameo.

Be excited. Buy with confidence. This is the one I'm most excited for.

Now listen to me you little *****.
You know you done ****ed up don't you?

My band used the little b sample, Spice 1 took the other even further by making the other one a whole song:

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Originally Posted by Tone blare

Hopefully it includes both versions because the directors cut is awful. This movie came out when I was 13 and I remember sneaking into the theater with my cousins to see it and I've seen it countless times since. The theatrical is the way to go.

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Originally Posted by Vixen of the Night

I don't understand those saying the DC "ruins the flow" of the movie. The difference is a few seconds, all more explicit violence.

I think people are mistaking this with Friday, which only has the directors cut on all current releases and that version certainly ruins the flow and the movie!

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Originally Posted by Retroj23

That's incorrect. There are scenes with extra dialogue that seems unnecessary (to me anyway) and adds nothing to the scenes.

Sorry tone and retro, yous are incorrect. There is no extra dialogue unless there's a throwaway line when Wax pays for the gas. Proof is here.
I've seen this movie countless times since taping it off cable way back then, and it's almost impossible to tell which cut I'm watching until the slight extensions play or don't. Friday is ruined by the DC, this one is fine either way.

Vinyl · 08-13-2021, 09:00 PM

I remember Menace when it first came out, never saw it. I was like 10. But I do remember it was a huge deal when it came out. I knew Cuba Gooding Jr was in it. Totally forgot about Ice Cube. If I remembered that ice cube was in it, would have checked out earlier. Looking back, it was a mix of the great cast and the truthfulness of the script that made it such a big deal.

Went out and rented from library, excited to finally see it.

08-13-2021, 09:00 PM	#60
Vinyl Senior Member Member since:Aug 2013 4K collection:90 Blu-ray collection:703 DVD collection:6	I remember Menace when it first came out, never saw it. I was like 10. But I do remember it was a huge deal when it came out. I knew Cuba Gooding Jr was in it. Totally forgot about Ice Cube. If I remembered that ice cube was in it, would have checked out earlier. Looking back, it was a mix of the great cast and the truthfulness of the script that made it such a big deal. Went out and rented from library, excited to finally see it. Last edited by Vinyl; 08-13-2021 at 09:05 PM.

08-12-2021, 06:47 AM	#41
Bassaholic Special Member Member since:May 2011 Location:close to the edge 4K collection:640 Blu-ray collection:2266 DVD collection:84 Trading Score:195	Never seen this. Which is better, this or BNTH?

08-12-2021, 08:30 AM	#44
Ben_UK Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2011 Location:Birmingham, UK 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:226 Blu-ray reviews:4	I saw this around a friends house when I was about 12 and was genuinely traumatised. Yes I had quite a sheltered life.

08-12-2021, 03:04 PM	#46
Neutron82 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Atlanta 4K collection:478 Blu-ray collection:2093 DVD collection:45 Trading Score:124	look at the muthaf*ckin wheels!

08-12-2021, 03:15 PM	#47
Tone blare Special Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:137 Blu-ray collection:1237 MA collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:13 Trading Score:140	Hopefully it includes both versions because the directors cut is awful. This movie came out when I was 13 and I remember sneaking into the theater with my cousins to see it and I've seen it countless times since. The theatrical is the way to go.

08-12-2021, 03:18 PM	#48
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:1145 Trading Score:69	I'm sure the Hughes Brothers will be involved with the release, so it's ultimately up to them which cuts will be included. Since Criterion were the first to debut the Director's cut on laserdisc, and Albert Hughes has stated he prefers the DC, I think that's all we'll see with the UHD release.

08-12-2021, 03:36 PM	#49
SleazyForWeasley Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2011 Location:330-hio 4K collection:242 Blu-ray collection:881 DVD collection:117 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:18 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3	When people ask "why do you want both cuts?" I think the easiest response is "for posterity." Criterion, as well as other labels are interested in preserving a film in whatever edits have existed over time. Moreso than studios. I was bummed when only the extended cut of Until the End of the World was included on their release even though the extended is the only version I know (I first saw it when the extended cut was release theatrically). And as some have mentioned here and elsewhere, sometimes Director's Cuts are a product of not understanding that there are instances where less is more.

08-12-2021, 07:26 PM	#50
coolguy25 Active Member Member since:Dec 2020 4K collection:129 Blu-ray collection:141	can't wait

08-12-2021, 08:29 PM	#51
greendemoncustoms Active Member Member since:Dec 2019 4K collection:87 Blu-ray collection:1405 DVD collection:17 Blu-ray reviews:3	This gives me hope for Dead Presidents 4k

08-12-2021, 10:46 PM	#53
gates70 Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:289 4K collection:1538 Blu-ray collection:5377 Blu-ray reviews:1	I'm in but wow the prices are going to be crazy in Canada. The BD's are already very high here.

08-12-2021, 11:22 PM	#54
KidSqueek Active Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:LOS ANGELES 4K collection:355 Blu-ray collection:470 Digital collection:2 iTunes collection:17	This will officially be my first Criterion purchase. Ever.

08-13-2021, 01:21 AM	#55
Vixen of the Night Special Member Member since:May 2013	I don't understand those saying the DC "ruins the flow" of the movie. The difference is a few seconds, all more explicit violence. I think people are mistaking this with Friday, which only has the directors cut on all current releases and that version certainly ruins the flow and the movie!

08-13-2021, 02:39 AM	#58
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:1053 Trading Score:51	Never seen this. What with all the enthusiasm over this announcement, I'll have to rectify that.

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