Value Electronics 2021 TV & UST Shootout Evaluation event - Blu-ray Forum

Robert Zohn · 08-27-2021, 07:45 PM

Value Electronics’ 17th annual TV Shootout® Evaluation event will be Sunday, September 12th from 9 AM to 5 PM ET. On the following day, for the very first time we will be having an UST projector Shootout, Monday, September 13th, from 10 AM to 5 PM ET.

The 2021 flagship 4K and 8K TVs and UST projectors will be competing with a detailed comparison of all the attributes of picture quality. The winners will be crowned "King of 4K TV,” “King of 8K TV,” and "King of UST."

Attendance is very limited this year with only judges, presenters, and select media being invited to attend in person. The entire two days will be live webcast on http://www.YouTube.com/sparechange.

I'll upload our press release shortly.

Robert Zohn · 08-28-2021, 01:50 AM

The 2021 TV model year represents one of the biggest advancement in video display technology we've seen in many years. This is the first year we have Dual Cell LCD/LED TVs, MiniLED TVs, and larger and brighter OLED TVs. The advancement in 8K TVs have matured very nicely.

This year also give us many new brands of UST projectors and many employ dedicated Red, Green and Blue triple lasers with higher peak luminance that deliver a true 4K HDR experience.

Here's the link to our press release that went out to the media today:

Value Electronics 2021 TV & UST Projector Shootout Evaluation event

jvonl · 08-28-2021, 03:19 AM

Good timing. I'll be shopping for a new panel soon...

teddyballgame · 08-28-2021, 03:29 AM

Thank you for inviting all the youtubers I'm sure we will be treated to some fun content!
I'm really keen on seeing the z9j and a90j and also the g1. Quite a strong showing this year...

Waboman · 08-28-2021, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Value Electronics’ 17th annual TV Shootout® Evaluation event will be Sunday, September 12th from 9 AM to 5 PM ET. On the following day, for the very first time we will be having an UST projector Shootout, Monday, September 13th, from 10 AM to 5 PM ET.

The 2021 flagship 4K and 8K TVs and UST projectors will be competing with a detailed comparison of all the attributes of picture quality. The winners will be crowned "King of 4K TV,” “King of 8K TV,” and "King of UST."

Attendance is very limited this year with only judges, presenters, and select media being invited to attend in person. The entire two days will be live webcast on http://www.YouTube.com/sparechange.

I'll upload our press release shortly.

Exciting new, RZ. I posted this info on that other site too. Get more eyeballz.

HDTV1080P · 08-28-2021, 07:51 PM

The winner might be a 4K display instead of a 8K display. In order for the 8K display to have a picture quality advantage you well need to feed it some type of third party 8K demo material.

Panson · 08-28-2021, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

The winner might be a 4K display instead of a 8K display. In order for the 8K display to have a picture quality advantage you well need to feed it some type of third party 8K demo material.

“King of 4K TV, King of 8K TV, and King of UST."

Will there be overall winner?

Robert Zohn · 08-29-2021, 02:12 PM

Correct @Panson, we'll have two separate TV Shootout Evaluation events this year.

Starting at 9am will be just the flagship 4K TVs from Hisense, Samsung, LG and Sony and after the 4K TV Shootout is concluded and we announce the new King of 4K TV we'll start the 8K TV Shootout.

After the 8K Shootout is concluded and we crown the King of 8K TV we'll put the two Kings next to each other and we'll play premium 4K HDR content on both TVs and we'll also have native 8K content with the 8K content dumbed down to 4K for the 4K TV to demonstrate if you can see a difference with a 8K TV.

Our UST Projector Shootout Evaluation will all be the best available multi-laser projectors.

Robert Zohn · 08-31-2021, 03:05 AM

We just received Hisense's first allocation of their new 75" U9DG Dual Cell LCD/LED 4K HDR TVs. These are the first and only Dual Cell TV available in the USA. It's Hisense's 2nd generation of Dual Cell display technology.

Very nice overall picture quality with over 2 million local dimming zones.

We test all of the TVs that go into our annual TV Shootout to ensure they are in the premium class of the three major brands and Hisense's 75U9DG made the cut and will be included in our September 12th 2021 TV Shootout Evaluation event.

wxman2003 · 09-03-2021, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

We just received Hisense's first allocation of their new 75" U9DG Dual Cell LCD/LED 4K HDR TVs. These are the first and only Dual Cell TV available in the USA. It's Hisense's 2nd generation of Dual Cell display technology.

Very nice overall picture quality with over 2 million local dimming zones.

We test all of the TVs that go into our annual TV Shootout to ensure they are in the premium class of the three major brands and Hisense's 75U9DG made the cut and will be included in our September 12th 2021 TV Shootout Evaluation event.

And a nice youtube video too! Looks impressive.

Lee A Stewart · 09-03-2021, 12:34 AM

The only real glaring negative is the power consumption: 400 watts. An LG 77" OLED 4K UHD TV consumes 160 watts.

wxman2003 · 09-03-2021, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

The only real glaring negative is the power consumption: 400 watts. An LG 77" OLED 4K UHD TV consumes 160 watts.

Not all is wasted. It can also heat your room.

unberechenbar · 09-03-2021, 01:13 AM

The website says it gets to up to 1000 nits peak brightness. I would have expected higher from a TV using that technology. It seems to be significantly lower than the QN90A. I hope we start seeing more TVs with over 1000 nits soon.

Lee A Stewart · 09-03-2021, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wxman2003

Not all is wasted. It can also heat your room.

According to California Law, this TV can't be sold there. 75" is Tier 2 (greater than 55") which requires a 1 watt standby - meets that at 0.5 watts. But fails the:

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Tier 2 requires active mode power less than or equal to 0.12 x Screen Area + 25.

75" = 2403.56 inches for screen area X 0.12 = 288 + 25 = 313 maxium watts used.

https://appliance-standards.org/product/televisions

Robert Zohn · 09-03-2021, 01:22 AM

The 75U9DG runs cooler then you would expect, but it does draw more current than most other TVs.

wxman2003 · 09-03-2021, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by unberechenbar

The website says it gets to up to 1000 nits peak brightness. I would have expected higher from a TV using that technology. It seems to be significantly lower than the QN90A. I hope we start seeing more TVs with over 1000 nits soon.

It's harder for dual cell to get brighter than mini led. That's why it hasn't been readily accepted by other manufacturers. Plus it costs more to produce.

TitusTroy · 09-03-2021, 06:36 PM

I always look forward to this...but this year's best 4K display is a lock, it's all about who finishes in 2nd place...good to see Projector's have their own Shootout this year

prediction: the Sony A90J will win best 4K display of 2021

bring on MicroLED's!!

NKB2017 · 09-03-2021, 10:33 PM

I'm hearing good things about the Panasonic HZ2000 and JZ2000 here in the UK. A worthy opponent for the Sony A90J???

TitusTroy · 09-03-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NKB2017

I'm hearing good things about the Panasonic HZ2000 and JZ2000 here in the UK. A worthy opponent for the Sony A90J???

in previous years the Panasonic OLED's were the clear winner but it seems this year they took a small step back...still a great display but not the best

wxman2003 · 09-06-2021, 11:53 PM

08-27-2021, 07:45 PM	#1
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Value Electronics 2021 TV & UST Shootout Evaluation event Value Electronics’ 17th annual TV Shootout® Evaluation event will be Sunday, September 12th from 9 AM to 5 PM ET. On the following day, for the very first time we will be having an UST projector Shootout, Monday, September 13th, from 10 AM to 5 PM ET. The 2021 flagship 4K and 8K TVs and UST projectors will be competing with a detailed comparison of all the attributes of picture quality. The winners will be crowned "King of 4K TV,” “King of 8K TV,” and "King of UST." Attendance is very limited this year with only judges, presenters, and select media being invited to attend in person. The entire two days will be live webcast on http://www.YouTube.com/sparechange. I'll upload our press release shortly.

09-03-2021, 01:13 AM	#13
unberechenbar Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:May 2021 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:350 Blu-ray collection:350 Blu-ray reviews: 343 Trading Score:3	The website says it gets to up to 1000 nits peak brightness. I would have expected higher from a TV using that technology. It seems to be significantly lower than the QN90A. I hope we start seeing more TVs with over 1000 nits soon. Last edited by unberechenbar; 09-03-2021 at 01:17 AM.

08-28-2021, 01:50 AM	#2
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	The 2021 TV model year represents one of the biggest advancement in video display technology we've seen in many years. This is the first year we have Dual Cell LCD/LED TVs, MiniLED TVs, and larger and brighter OLED TVs. The advancement in 8K TVs have matured very nicely. This year also give us many new brands of UST projectors and many employ dedicated Red, Green and Blue triple lasers with higher peak luminance that deliver a true 4K HDR experience. Here's the link to our press release that went out to the media today: Value Electronics 2021 TV & UST Projector Shootout Evaluation event

08-28-2021, 03:19 AM	#3
jvonl Power Member Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Hill Country, Texas 4K collection:416 Blu-ray collection:1635	Good timing. I'll be shopping for a new panel soon...

08-28-2021, 03:29 AM	#4
teddyballgame Special Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2019 Location:United States 4K collection:427 Blu-ray collection:431	Thank you for inviting all the youtubers I'm sure we will be treated to some fun content! I'm really keen on seeing the z9j and a90j and also the g1. Quite a strong showing this year...

08-28-2021, 07:51 PM	#6
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	The winner might be a 4K display instead of a 8K display. In order for the 8K display to have a picture quality advantage you well need to feed it some type of third party 8K demo material.

08-29-2021, 02:12 PM	#8
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Correct @Panson, we'll have two separate TV Shootout Evaluation events this year. Starting at 9am will be just the flagship 4K TVs from Hisense, Samsung, LG and Sony and after the 4K TV Shootout is concluded and we announce the new King of 4K TV we'll start the 8K TV Shootout. After the 8K Shootout is concluded and we crown the King of 8K TV we'll put the two Kings next to each other and we'll play premium 4K HDR content on both TVs and we'll also have native 8K content with the 8K content dumbed down to 4K for the 4K TV to demonstrate if you can see a difference with a 8K TV. Our UST Projector Shootout Evaluation will all be the best available multi-laser projectors.

08-31-2021, 03:05 AM	#9
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	We just received Hisense's first allocation of their new 75" U9DG Dual Cell LCD/LED 4K HDR TVs. These are the first and only Dual Cell TV available in the USA. It's Hisense's 2nd generation of Dual Cell display technology. Very nice overall picture quality with over 2 million local dimming zones. We test all of the TVs that go into our annual TV Shootout to ensure they are in the premium class of the three major brands and Hisense's 75U9DG made the cut and will be included in our September 12th 2021 TV Shootout Evaluation event.

09-03-2021, 12:34 AM	#11
Lee A Stewart Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jan 2019 Location:Albuquerque, NM	The only real glaring negative is the power consumption: 400 watts. An LG 77" OLED 4K UHD TV consumes 160 watts.

09-03-2021, 01:22 AM	#15
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	The 75U9DG runs cooler then you would expect, but it does draw more current than most other TVs.

09-03-2021, 06:36 PM	#17
TitusTroy Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2010 Location:New York City 4K collection:22 Blu-ray collection:126 Trading Score:16	I always look forward to this...but this year's best 4K display is a lock, it's all about who finishes in 2nd place...good to see Projector's have their own Shootout this year prediction: the Sony A90J will win best 4K display of 2021 bring on MicroLED's!!

09-03-2021, 10:33 PM	#18
NKB2017 Banned Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:3 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:1	I'm hearing good things about the Panasonic HZ2000 and JZ2000 here in the UK. A worthy opponent for the Sony A90J???

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