Why I might be going format neutral soon and might start buying HD DVD movies - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

SGIBES · 08-31-2007, 08:13 PM

I collect movies as well, and Blu-rays are only HD ones that I own. As for Universal, Paramount, I either have them on dvd or could get them on dvd and watch it on my upscaling PS3. So I guess what Im saying is: Dont cave in It wont be long now.

glenn22 · 08-31-2007, 08:13 PM

Obviously we can't make this decision for you. I think it's a mistake though. Going format neutral only helps prolong the inevitable... and that is that one of the 2 formats will die. Are the titles currently out on HD-DVD really so enticing that you can't possibly wait until HD-DVD dies and those titles are released on Blu-ray? I am a definitely movie enthusiast, but I can occupy myself with the BD that are coming. If I feel the need to watch a Universal or Paramount flick, I will just watch the SD version and upconvert it on my PS3.... there's no need to purchase inferior technology for those few movies that you can't get yet on Blu.

Teazle · 08-31-2007, 08:17 PM

After a bit more thought ... OK, your main beef with BD is that there isn't full studio support -- you can't have all the movies. I agree that it would be intolerable _never_ to be able to watch Universal and Paramount movies on HDM at home. But suppose you wait a year or 18 mo. before deciding whether or not to invest in a HD-DVD-capable player. Then there are two cases.
At that time either:

a) the format war is over or almost over. Universal is neutral, BD is on the cusp of victory. No point in buying HD-DVD hardware then: you picked the winner out of the gate and saved some coin and a lot of hassle.
b) the war still drags on. OK, in this case admittedly it appears that it's either buy those HD-DVDs or maybe you never get them on HDM ever. So then go dual-format. At this point the players and the discs will be cheaper than they are now, so again you saved some coin.

Either way, you still get all the movies eventually.

Given that you already have Blu-ray, the only thing you stand to gain by going dual-format _now_ is a handful of extra movies in the short term at relatively large expense. Talk about diminishing returns. You already have the better type of player and access to lots of HDM movies (actually the majority of them) and with better picture and sound.

Whereas if you simply wait, you will eventually get the movies you want, no matter what. And you help speed the end of the war by not supporting HD-DVD. And save some coin. That's the way I see it at any rate.

GasCat · 08-31-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by buckshot

traitor. I take back what I said in the blu ray pledge of allegiance thread. we should shoot traitors. but I doubt we will.

Easy, easy! I think it's this damn humidity getting to both of you.

HDTV1080P · 08-31-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BluBerry

This is the most rediculous statement I've seen on these boards. You could not be more wrong about this. How many more times does this have to be said? The home video market is not like the video game market. Consumers don't want combo players. They want one format to take home, knowing it will work on their player. That's why you are seeing places like Blockbuster begin to stock only Blu-Ray discs. Combo players at any price are not the answer.

Since the BLU-RAY format does not have 100% studio support then Universal HDTV dual format players is the only solution. In a way every BLU-RAY player is a dual format player since it plays standard DVD’s and BLU-RAY discs. So every BLU-RAY owner already owns a dual format player. Yes if I choose a dual format HDTV player the format war will be over for me and I can just start collecting movies again.

monkyman · 08-31-2007, 08:26 PM

I don't even see the point of posting this here on the Blu-ray forum, unless it is a cry for help. If I were to buy an HD-DVD player, I certainly wouldn't post it here.

Personaly do what you want, but in this war, your supplying bullits to one side and guns to the other.

GasCat · 08-31-2007, 08:28 PM

I'd get a Blu-Ray recorder and get the movies I want off the air. Have you seen HD on cable? Is it that horrendous that it can't help your thirst for movies not on Blu-Ray for a few years?

LeoneFan · 08-31-2007, 08:29 PM

Only the weak buy HDDVD players, all the content will be available on Blu-ray one day and you can make that happen faster by not supporting the lesser format.

DrinkMore · 08-31-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Since the BLU-RAY format does not have 100% studio support then Universal HDTV dual format players is the only solution. In a way every BLU-RAY player is a dual format player since it plays standard DVD’s and BLU-RAY discs. So every BLU-RAY owner already owns a dual format player. Yes if I choose a dual format HDTV player the format war will be over for me and I can just start collecting movies again.

Why are all your posts in some weird font? It drives me crazy!

DrinkMore · 08-31-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GasCat

I'd get a Blu-Ray recorder and get the movies I want off the air. Have you seen HD on cable? Is it that horrendous that it can't help your thirst for movies not on Blu-Ray for a few years?

Unless you have ComCrap where it blocks, de-syncs, or audio drops out for a few seconds. Other than that it's COMCASTIC!

HDTV1080P · 08-31-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by buckshot

traitor. I take back what I said in the blu ray pledge of allegiance thread. we should shoot traitors. but I doubt we will.

I am not a traitor yet since I do not own any HD-DVD discs or products. Come November I will have to decide if I am going to buy the world’s first working combo player or if I will just continue boycotting Universal and Paramount HDTV movies.

glenn22 · 08-31-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

I am not a traitor yet since I do not own any HD-DVD discs or products. Come November I will have to decide if I am going to buy the world’s first working combo player or if I will just continue boycotting Universal and Paramount HDTV movies.

You should just chill, all your favorites will be out on Blu-ray eventually. If you buy an HD-DVD player, then when it dies out you'll have to re-buy all those titles on Blu-ray.

Oh and your previous comment about all of us owning dual format players because they all play SD DVD? There is a big difference between backwards compatibility and dual format current generation players.

marzetta7 · 08-31-2007, 08:54 PM

I would save your $400 extra you are thinking of spending and simply use it on Universal and Paramount movies when they eventually cave after the holidays.

Why the rush? $400 is a lot of movies that you could spend on the Blu-ray format that is still supported by the majority of the Hollywood studios.

alain turgeon · 08-31-2007, 08:57 PM

IMO These players will be transition players for those who already have a collection of hddvds. Than they will be able to convert to blu-ray and still play their existing collection.

patrick99 · 08-31-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Why are all your posts in some weird font? It drives me crazy!

I thought it was just me that felt that way.

JTK · 08-31-2007, 09:11 PM

It's a shame to see that one little piece of bad news after endless months of nothing but nonstop good news before and since, combined with a healthy dose of FUD and "marketing" leads to cage rattling reactions like what we're seeing in this thread.

That's really a shame.

buckshot · 08-31-2007, 09:11 PM

come one petrolkitty and hd. i'm only kidding although this heat is getting to me. my (obscenity deleted) are so sweaty they are driving me (obscenity deleted) insane. can a man get some menthol gold bond powder for his (obscenity deleted) (obscenity deleted).

I love jay and silent bob. but to hdtv1080p's original statement. I can kind of understand your reasoning. but if you really wanted to get some hd dvds to collect i'd say wait until after the war when people start selling of their (already) obsolete hardware/software.

damnit downtown sd is humid as hell today.

DrinkMore · 08-31-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick99

I thought it was just me that felt that way.

Nope. I have been meaning to say it for a while now. It's annoying to see his posts all weird.

The Shrike · 08-31-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick99

I thought it was just me that felt that way.

Seriously, it makes his posts look like spam.

Amel · 08-31-2007, 09:18 PM

I know its tempting

but I'll rather cut of my penis than go neutral

what do I need two formats if one of them is going to vanish in a year or two

08-31-2007, 08:17 PM	#23
Teazle Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray reviews:1	Why not wait After a bit more thought ... OK, your main beef with BD is that there isn't full studio support -- you can't have all the movies. I agree that it would be intolerable _never_ to be able to watch Universal and Paramount movies on HDM at home. But suppose you wait a year or 18 mo. before deciding whether or not to invest in a HD-DVD-capable player. Then there are two cases. At that time either: a) the format war is over or almost over. Universal is neutral, BD is on the cusp of victory. No point in buying HD-DVD hardware then: you picked the winner out of the gate and saved some coin and a lot of hassle. b) the war still drags on. OK, in this case admittedly it appears that it's either buy those HD-DVDs or maybe you never get them on HDM ever. So then go dual-format. At this point the players and the discs will be cheaper than they are now, so again you saved some coin. Either way, you still get all the movies eventually. Given that you already have Blu-ray, the only thing you stand to gain by going dual-format _now_ is a handful of extra movies in the short term at relatively large expense. Talk about diminishing returns. You already have the better type of player and access to lots of HDM movies (actually the majority of them) and with better picture and sound. Whereas if you simply wait, you will eventually get the movies you want, no matter what. And you help speed the end of the war by not supporting HD-DVD. And save some coin. That's the way I see it at any rate.

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08-31-2007, 08:13 PM	#21
SGIBES Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Chicago IL Trading Score:1	I collect movies as well, and Blu-rays are only HD ones that I own. As for Universal, Paramount, I either have them on dvd or could get them on dvd and watch it on my upscaling PS3. So I guess what Im saying is: Dont cave in It wont be long now.

08-31-2007, 08:13 PM	#22
glenn22 Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Vancouver, Canada	Obviously we can't make this decision for you. I think it's a mistake though. Going format neutral only helps prolong the inevitable... and that is that one of the 2 formats will die. Are the titles currently out on HD-DVD really so enticing that you can't possibly wait until HD-DVD dies and those titles are released on Blu-ray? I am a definitely movie enthusiast, but I can occupy myself with the BD that are coming. If I feel the need to watch a Universal or Paramount flick, I will just watch the SD version and upconvert it on my PS3.... there's no need to purchase inferior technology for those few movies that you can't get yet on Blu.

08-31-2007, 08:26 PM	#26
monkyman Special Member Member since:Jun 2007	I don't even see the point of posting this here on the Blu-ray forum, unless it is a cry for help. If I were to buy an HD-DVD player, I certainly wouldn't post it here. Personaly do what you want, but in this war, your supplying bullits to one side and guns to the other.

08-31-2007, 08:28 PM	#27
GasCat Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	I'd get a Blu-Ray recorder and get the movies I want off the air. Have you seen HD on cable? Is it that horrendous that it can't help your thirst for movies not on Blu-Ray for a few years?

08-31-2007, 08:29 PM	#28
LeoneFan Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007	Only the weak buy HDDVD players, all the content will be available on Blu-ray one day and you can make that happen faster by not supporting the lesser format.

08-31-2007, 08:54 PM	#33
marzetta7 Special Member Member since:Feb 2006	I would save your $400 extra you are thinking of spending and simply use it on Universal and Paramount movies when they eventually cave after the holidays. Why the rush? $400 is a lot of movies that you could spend on the Blu-ray format that is still supported by the majority of the Hollywood studios.

08-31-2007, 08:57 PM	#34
alain turgeon Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Trois-Rivieres Quebec Canada Blu-ray collection:670 Blu-ray reviews:5	IMO These players will be transition players for those who already have a collection of hddvds. Than they will be able to convert to blu-ray and still play their existing collection.

08-31-2007, 09:11 PM	#36
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	It's a shame to see that one little piece of bad news after endless months of nothing but nonstop good news before and since, combined with a healthy dose of FUD and "marketing" leads to cage rattling reactions like what we're seeing in this thread. That's really a shame.

08-31-2007, 09:11 PM	#37
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	come one petrolkitty and hd. i'm only kidding although this heat is getting to me. my (obscenity deleted) are so sweaty they are driving me (obscenity deleted) insane. can a man get some menthol gold bond powder for his (obscenity deleted) (obscenity deleted). I love jay and silent bob. but to hdtv1080p's original statement. I can kind of understand your reasoning. but if you really wanted to get some hd dvds to collect i'd say wait until after the war when people start selling of their (already) obsolete hardware/software. damnit downtown sd is humid as hell today.

08-31-2007, 09:18 PM	#40
Amel Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Clearwater FL Blu-ray collection:91 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	I know its tempting but I'll rather cut of my penis than go neutral what do I need two formats if one of them is going to vanish in a year or two

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