MGM/Fox does it again.... - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Variable · 06-02-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Well.... since the extras likely would have been added in SD anyways..... perhaps they are maximizing the disc space with the Movie itself for the Blu-ray

yeah, the case in the OP seems like a good thing to me.

bajor27 · 06-02-2009, 08:18 AM

Commentaries should definitely be included on the Blu-ray version of the film. It would take them all of what, 5 minutes to do that?

As for SD extras. I couldn't care less where they end up (as long as they're still included)

Bullseye · 06-02-2009, 09:42 AM

Unless Fox are trying to save on costs by employing BD25's then there really is no need for the extras to be put onto a second disc. Alot of people like BD because you should only need on disc for most films.

I can understand the OP's frustration at the lazyness of certain studios and some of their releases.

seigneur_rayden · 06-02-2009, 10:07 AM

Why do people even care for the audio commentary? I want to watch the movie and listen to the dialogue not someone else voice (whether director or actor or...).
I never watched a movie with commentary and find it useless IMO. Thus, I am good with the bd the way it is. No offense.

To the people that want to load only 1 disc: I assume that you were mad at Warner for putting some other extras on a different disk than the one with the feature movie (The Dark Knight). Thus, you probably did not touch that 2nd disc of extras. Did U?

Boys and girls, stop complaining and enjoy the low price on this catalog new release. Would U pay $4 extra to have that commentary on the movie disc?

Anyway, OP: how is the PQ and AQ?

JonBidinger · 06-02-2009, 11:11 AM

These are all leftover titles from when MGM/Fox went on hiatus, there are probably even more that they prepared in this period coming. Their modus operandi in that period was MPEG-2 BD25 Barebones. They presumably figured that throwing a dvd with extras in was better than nothing at all.

cosomotion · 06-02-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by depooter

it's stupid that you have to pop out the BD, put in the standard DVD if you want the extras...that's all I'm saying. it's pure laziness by the studio.

that sounds more like pure laziness from the viewer.

Nutbunnies · 06-02-2009, 12:40 PM

Absolutely stunning and frankly appalling that not only are they doing this, but people are lining up to agree with them and chastise people who don't want crap like this.

Quote:

Why do people even care for the audio commentary? I want to watch the movie and listen to the dialogue not someone else voice (whether director or actor or...).

Well have fun with that, the rest of us who are interested in behind the scenes information and getting more bang for are buck will be outside of the drunk tank.

DetroitSportsFan · 06-02-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Well.... since the extras likely would have been added in SD anyways..... perhaps they are maximizing the disc space with the Movie itself for the Blu-ray

I agree. If the extras are in SD anyway, it really doesn't matter to me.

Rhylliam · 06-02-2009, 04:01 PM

Wow, this is very odd indeed. So were any of these titles annouced for release months ago, then delayed until now. If so, then they may have already produced the discs back then, & now realise that consumers would be pissed to not have extras.

Sucks that there's no commentaries on the BD's though. I don't mind having extras on the separate disc, but still, this makes me have to get up off the couch & outta my laziness because of their laziness. Damn. Soon I bet Fox will have low price-points on these (if not already), & a promote the fact that these releases are "2 DISC SPECIAL EDITIONS!"

Alan Gordon · 06-02-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonBidinger

These are all leftover titles from when MGM/Fox went on hiatus, there are probably even more that they prepared in this period coming. Their modus operandi in that period was MPEG-2 BD25 Barebones. They presumably figured that throwing a dvd with extras in was better than nothing at all.

BINGO!! We have a winner....

~Alan

aggienader08 · 06-02-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtre81

ummm... the extras were going to be in sd anyway. What is the big deal???

You are actually getting MORE for your money... lot less.

People complain about everything.

Would you have been happier if it was a 2 disk bluray edition and the extras were still in SD?

Most blus don't have extras in hd and certainly not catalog titles.

I came in this thread expecting to hear that there was no extras at all and you are here crying that they not only gave you an sd copy of the movie ( which disney was praised for) but the extras as well.

Lock this silly thread immediately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by depooter

it's stupid that you have to pop out the BD, put in the standard DVD if you want the extras...that's all I'm saying. it's pure laziness by the studio.

If he wants to complain about it (or express his opinion) let him. Nobody's opinion is the end all be all of these threads, much less yours. Get off your know it all high horse and just don't reply to the thread if you don't agree, or just state your opinion and get outta here.

blokhed · 06-02-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutbunnies

Absolutely stunning and frankly appalling that not only are they doing this, but people are lining up to agree with them and chastise people who don't want crap like this.

Well have fun with that, the rest of us who are interested in behind the scenes information and getting more bang for are buck will be outside of the drunk tank.

Hear hear.

I can't believe some of you. "I don't care about extras, so what's the big deal?" So what are you chiming in on this thread for! A lot of us do care about them, so this is an issue for us. It'd be a different story if we were whining that every movie didn't get the Blade Runner treatment, but all we're asking is for very simple things: include the extras from the DVD, and when feasible put them all on one disc. At the very least, put the commentary on the BR disc! How hard is that?

For those that don't like commentaries or extras, fine, but don't shout it from the rooftops to the studios and screw those of us that do. You guys have the option of ignoring the extras, whether they're there or not. For those of us that love films and are fascinated by the creative process, commentaries and documentaries are fascinating and helpful.

retablo · 06-02-2009, 07:31 PM

According to DVD Beaver, the french version of The Graduate is VC-1.

Regardless, the film itself wasn't "remastered" by Lowry or anything that extreme, so it'll probably get yet another release in a few years.

Mr. Cinema · 06-02-2009, 07:34 PM

I don't mind this, especially if the features are still in SD. This at least gives you an option to watch the movie in another room or on the road where you don't have BD access.

djluis2k6 · 06-02-2009, 07:38 PM

I had no idea they were doing something like this. I'm getting Walking Tall and Out of Time in the mail this week, doesn't bother me. I stopped watching the extra's a long time ago.

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06-02-2009, 08:18 AM	#22
bajor27 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:BC, Canada Blu-ray collection:1031 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:5	Commentaries should definitely be included on the Blu-ray version of the film. It would take them all of what, 5 minutes to do that? As for SD extras. I couldn't care less where they end up (as long as they're still included)

06-02-2009, 09:42 AM	#23
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	Unless Fox are trying to save on costs by employing BD25's then there really is no need for the extras to be put onto a second disc. Alot of people like BD because you should only need on disc for most films. I can understand the OP's frustration at the lazyness of certain studios and some of their releases.

06-02-2009, 10:07 AM	#24
seigneur_rayden Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:1097 Blu-ray reviews: 12	Why do people even care for the audio commentary? I want to watch the movie and listen to the dialogue not someone else voice (whether director or actor or...). I never watched a movie with commentary and find it useless IMO. Thus, I am good with the bd the way it is. No offense. To the people that want to load only 1 disc: I assume that you were mad at Warner for putting some other extras on a different disk than the one with the feature movie (The Dark Knight). Thus, you probably did not touch that 2nd disc of extras. Did U? Boys and girls, stop complaining and enjoy the low price on this catalog new release. Would U pay $4 extra to have that commentary on the movie disc? Anyway, OP: how is the PQ and AQ?

06-02-2009, 11:11 AM	#25
JonBidinger Active Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:36 Blu-ray collection:375	These are all leftover titles from when MGM/Fox went on hiatus, there are probably even more that they prepared in this period coming. Their modus operandi in that period was MPEG-2 BD25 Barebones. They presumably figured that throwing a dvd with extras in was better than nothing at all.

06-02-2009, 04:01 PM	#29
Rhylliam Contributor Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:1499 Blu-ray collection:9004 DVD collection:9438 Blu-ray reviews: 49 Trading Score:109	Wow, this is very odd indeed. So were any of these titles annouced for release months ago, then delayed until now. If so, then they may have already produced the discs back then, & now realise that consumers would be pissed to not have extras. Sucks that there's no commentaries on the BD's though. I don't mind having extras on the separate disc, but still, this makes me have to get up off the couch & outta my laziness because of their laziness. Damn. Soon I bet Fox will have low price-points on these (if not already), & a promote the fact that these releases are "2 DISC SPECIAL EDITIONS!"

06-02-2009, 07:31 PM	#33
retablo Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hollywood Blu-ray collection:1307 Trading Score:1	According to DVD Beaver, the french version of The Graduate is VC-1. Regardless, the film itself wasn't "remastered" by Lowry or anything that extreme, so it'll probably get yet another release in a few years.

06-02-2009, 07:34 PM	#34
Mr. Cinema Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:NC 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	I don't mind this, especially if the features are still in SD. This at least gives you an option to watch the movie in another room or on the road where you don't have BD access.

06-02-2009, 07:38 PM	#35
djluis2k6 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007	I had no idea they were doing something like this. I'm getting Walking Tall and Out of Time in the mail this week, doesn't bother me. I stopped watching the extra's a long time ago.

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