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Old 09-03-2007, 07:06 AM   #1
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Hello,

We have been using an HDTV for a while now and we are finally deciding on getting a new one and a high definition. player. But of course the decision of blu-ray and HD DVD. Right now looking at the facts blu-ray seems to be winning the so called "format war" and has more available DVDs than HD DVD does.

So I have a question about blu-ray do you need a 1080p TV to run it? (I know this is dumb, but I need to make sure) Can you use a 720p HDTV?

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Old 09-03-2007, 07:07 AM   #2
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yes you can because my tv is 720p its just the picture wont look as good as a 1080p hdtv
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:09 AM   #3
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:09 AM   #4
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I watch 1080p blu-ray movies on my 720p monitor all the time. Can't really tell the difference. It depends on how big your monitor is I guess.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:10 AM   #5
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there is a slight difference but not a big difference
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:13 AM   #6
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Would it look good on this one,
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-a...4.html?tag=lst

I want to make sure since blu-ray players are much more expensive then HD DVD players.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:14 AM   #7
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Yes, you can use 720p televisions, your Blu-ray player will automatically adjust itself to 1080i, so you might want to change it to 720p(progressive) since it looks a bit nicer than 1080i(interlaced). Blu-ray will look really nice on a 720p television, a whole lot better than a basic up-conversion DVD player.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:14 AM   #8
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Make sure to check out what is meant by the different profiles of Blu-ray players (1.0, 1.1 and 2.0). You may or may not care about the differences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Profiles

Also, lots of new players are being announced, so try to have a little patience.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:15 AM   #9
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50"+ you will tell a difference between 1080p and 720p.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:47 AM   #10
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I want to make sure since blu-ray players are much more expensive then HD DVD players.
Not really. If you buy the TV you linked to plus a player, your "getting high definition" budget difference is about 15% between the two formats.



Btw that TV is 768 x 1366 pixels.
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:31 AM   #11
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I really prefer 1080i to 720p for movies
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:06 AM   #12
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I've read in professional a/v magazines as well as been told by electronics sales people that to notice the difference between 1080i and 1080p you would have to be sitting no further than 3 to 5 feet away from a large screen and viewing the picture with the intention of noticing differences.
Blu-ray will fully take advantage of your screen, but without it being overkill. You will be blown away by the clarity of the picture and the crispness of the audio effects. Blu-ray at 1080i looks far more detailed than hd cable which is at 1080i via Comcast in my area.
If you are at all interested in video games or internet browsing on your tv then I would recommend the PS3. The PS3 has built in wi-fi and there is no charge to access the internet via Sony online provided you already have an ISP. It also upconverts standard dvds to very noticeable improvement.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:11 PM   #13
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Would it look good on this one,
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-a...4.html?tag=lst

I want to make sure since blu-ray players are much more expensive then HD DVD players.
You can get the Sony BDP-S300 for $350 from Sony directly if you apply for their credit card.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:06 PM   #14
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you can play a blu ray on any TV, even a 13" SD TV as long as there is a composite connection (and even if it does not and you buy a modulator, or a monitor if you have a BD HTPC). But obviously the bigger and better the display the more difference you will see and the more awesome it will look.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:26 PM   #15
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you can play a blu ray on any TV, even a 13" SD TV as long as there is a composite connection (and even if it does not and you buy a modulator, or a monitor if you have a BD HTPC). But obviously the bigger and better the display the more difference you will see and the more awesome it will look.
Here is the problem, on a display like that, there won't be a difference between it and dvd.
Why would J6P pay the premium?
If you have a really good scaler (I do) upconverted 720p DVD looks really good (on the right disk!)
The saying crap in crap out still applies.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:29 PM   #16
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yes you can because my tv is 720p its just the picture wont look as good as a 1080p hdtv
If you have anything under a 42 inch u wont notice the difference picture wise. 42 or bigger u better plan on a 1080p or you will be mighty dissapointed!
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:36 PM   #17
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If you have anything under a 42 inch u wont notice the difference picture wise. 42 or bigger u better plan on a 1080p or you will be mighty dissapointed!
It really comes down to how close you sit to view programs relative to size of screen.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/12/09...o-screen-size/

http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5108580-2.html

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hit...esolution.html

http://hdguru.com/wp-content/uploads...ance_chart.pdf

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Old 09-03-2007, 07:38 PM   #18
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The TV is danish desing and it is the winner of the "HD-TV Best product 2007-2008" by Eisa Award. So I think its good.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:47 PM   #19
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if you can spring for it get a 1080p tv with good contrast,sure it will do ok on 720 but if your spending the money you want the best pic for the money
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:56 PM   #20
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if you can spring for it get a 1080p tv with good contrast,sure it will do ok on 720 but if your spending the money you want the best pic for the money
Again it depends how close you sit, and you can't assume a 1080p set does 720p better than a 720p set.
It will have to upconvert it to match it native resolution and depending on it's upscaling abilities, might look better, the same, or even slightly worse.
If you have a 42" LCD and sit 12 feet away, you won't be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.
So if that situation fits yours you would save a bit by going with a discounted 720p set. Apply the money saved towards a bluray player.

But, on the other hand, the best picture is obtained by matching the source to the display.
If you have a true 1080p source, it will look its best going to a true 1080p set.
That is a fact.
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