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Old 09-03-2007, 05:23 PM   #1
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Food for thought...talk about an interesting article...

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/rob/?p=145
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:32 PM   #2
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what a F***ING MORON.... wonder who paid him to write that
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:36 PM   #3
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WOW.......what an idiot!

there's 5 min of my life wasted that I will never get back!
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:37 PM   #4
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ROFL...oh boy, I read the first reason why Blu should never have existed and couldn't contain the laughter. Ever heard of a $150M payoff? Finally stopped after the OS2/Blu comparison. Stupidity defined: Rob Enderle.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:37 PM   #5
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haha hes a tool like seriously any of his arguments can be look at almost a postitve maybe he should look at who suport blu-ray(i realy don`t think 150 companies some of the largest in the world would all make the same mistake)
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:37 PM   #6
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Food for thought...talk about an interesting article...

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/rob/?p=145
Well my mom said I never shouold of existed, and even won a lawsuit against Trojan on that basis, and well, 25 years later I am still here.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:38 PM   #7
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Now, I know a lot of people still believe Blu-Ray is winning (though that number declined sharply after Paramount and DreamWorks jumped ship), but if you really step back, you’ll realize all it is doing is ensuring HD-DVD doesn’t win either, and the impact of that on the movie industry has to be in the billions.
Declined sharply? I've yet to see the statistics, and I bet he hasn't either!
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:41 PM   #8
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This guy is such a hack. Everyone knows he's paid by Microsoft to spread FUD all over the web.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:43 PM   #9
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This guy probably still thinks Betamax is going to win...
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:43 PM   #10
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This guy is such a hack. Everyone knows he's paid by Microsoft to spread FUD all over the web.
Hey, I know I shouldn't say this, but you guys who are posting on here about this thread might put some of it on the blog site.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:45 PM   #11
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some of the worst arguments I've ever seen lol trying to sell people on why to buy hd-dud lmfao, he couldnt sell blow to rehab patients
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:47 PM   #12
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I’ve seen this over and over again, and am surprised more of us don’t point this out. If a product requires substantial support from the parent to keep it alive, including funding levels that probably can’t be reasonably recouped, it has a very high likelihood of failing.
That's Toshiba. They are the only big company really making hd-dvd players. More companies are supporting blu-ray than hddvd.

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The fact that it wasn’t affordable killed not only Blu-Ray but effectively took out the PS3 in the process. Without the PS3, Blu-Ray couldn’t beat HD-DVD, which had no similar crutch and advanced into the market much more easily (and shipped much earlier).
Blu-ray is far from dead! But Sony expected blu-ray would be too expensive for most at the start which is one of the reasons why the built it in to the PS3 (the other big reason being the huge space for huge games). Heck the playstation 2 was many people's first dvd player and helped usher in the DVD era.

Then he also talks about blu-ray and hddvd being impractical for storage? Sure it is now, but in a few years it will be easier, faster, and more affordable to burn bd-r's. Imagine how much crap you can store with a 25-pack! (625gb)

Then he talks about cost. Every new electronic product is costly at first. Sure Toshiba might reach $200 first, but that doesn't make it the best. A $400 Acer laptop does not beat a $700 Gateway laptop, a $500 32" LCD is not better than a 32" Samsung, etc.

In conclusion, this guy is an impatient moron! Blu-ray and hddvd are still in their infancy and it will be many years before any will challenge its dvd counterpart.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:48 PM   #13
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I like this little blurb...

"you’ll realize all it is doing is ensuring HD-DVD doesn’t win either"

Like this small segment is enough to try to convince others that he is not pro HD-DVD, and give him the credibility he thinks he deserves.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:49 PM   #14
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hahaha max I posted what you just said lol
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:54 PM   #15
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What a F****** turd, man that guy must be really low on brain cells.
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:26 PM   #16
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any one besides me wanna flood his email and "politely" call him a retard.?!
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:35 PM   #17
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I don't care if people use the PS3 as a blu-ray player, fact of the matter is, where are people big screen HDTV's? Presumably in the living room or basement probably. Why not use the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Everyone can uses their PS2 or Xbox's for DVD players and have for years. I guarantee the DVD industry has never argued that fact nore complained
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:49 PM   #18
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so i took the bait and emailed the tard. BTW i got a auto reply back that said he's out of his office...we should really flood it. I would love to see his face when he came back into the office and see's the ungodly number of emails people have sent.
here's what I wrote

So after reading your article it has raised a few questions for me.

1. How much research had you done prior to the IFA in Europe (as i am assuming you wrote this article before then) before you saw 7 companies release blu-ray players, two of which are WELL KNOWN TO HAVE LOW COST dvd players. The funny thing is that $200 HD-DVD player you've referred to, Walmart (a company well known for giving consumers the best price possible) isn't even picking up because even they know the quality of the player is Garbage.

2. Where you aware that HD-DVD disc are very faulty as many consumers have already reported their discs are starting to bubble or fog up?! Blu-ray disc are far more reliable. One of many reasons that Blockbuster has decided to adopt blu-ray exclusively in stores.

3. Where is this sharp decline you're talking about since Paramount?! On August 28th, the week when there no blu-ray releases, blu-ray actually was on par with people who were buying HD-DVD's which had 4 releases that week. You talk US or international, blu is outselling 2-1. I don't care if people use the PS3 as a blu-ray player, fact of the matter is, where are people big screen HDTV's? Presumably in the living room or basement probably. Why not use the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Everyone can uses their PS2 or Xbox's for DVD players and have for years. I guarantee the DVD industry has never argued that fact nor complained. Yes there are ways to up-convert your current DVD's, but none of them look near as good as the high def does. Not only that, but no where in your article did you mention the audio. Even on standard cable, you can switch between analog and high def and clearly hear the audio difference. I think its fair to say that most people have heard of the audio codec DTS. Well guess who's on that boat? FOX...oh yeah their blu exclusive.

4. Lets be reasonable. Its probably safe to assume that people want to be able to use this with their kids too. Ok HD got Dreamworks for 18 months. They get shrek the third? What a terrible movie that was. The first two were good but the third...TERRIBLE! Disney however has announced 30 more titles for this holiday season. Two of which were HUGE in both dvd sales and in the box office. Ratatouie and Finding Nemo.

It sounds to me that your very impatient, but it seems to me it took DVD years to finally take to people. Not only that, what was the cost when they first came out. Granted they had no major competitor but still, they did start in the upper $100's to $1000 range
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:49 PM   #19
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replace blu ray with HD-DVD and its about right.
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:53 PM   #20
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you should read the comments, it's much better than the article.
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