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Old 06-14-2009, 03:17 PM   #1
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After having my Pioneer for about a year now and having this annoying problem that I can't get rid of, I am looking for a new receiver. My price range is $600 but am willing to spend more if the product is going to suit my needs better. I need a receiver with pre-outs for my amplifier. I have been looking at the new Denons but their remotes look absolutely terrible. Has anyone had any experience with them? I would like something that has very good audio processing and multi-channel Pure Direct modes. Please feel free to ask questions in search of my new receiver. Thanks for your help.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:35 PM   #2
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Ok. So I was looking at getting the VSX-03TXH today at Best Buy. They were willing to price match it at $699. Would it be worth going from the 91 to the 03. Any other suggestions?
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Or perhaps you can see about checking into the Marantz 5003 or the Denon 1909/1910.
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Ok. So I was looking at getting the VSX-03TXH today at Best Buy. They were willing to price match it at $699. Would it be worth going from the 91 to the 03. Any other suggestions?
I have the 03 and I love it, I'm not to familiar with your elite model. I've been nothing but impressed since I picked it up.
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Old 06-15-2009, 12:57 PM   #5
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I like this one.You can find it cheaper this is just the listed price on the site


http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...2&CTID=5000300
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I like this one.You can find it cheaper this is just the listed price on the site


http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...2&CTID=5000300
I just had a thought. What if I stepped up the the SC-05. Do you think the amplifier on that would be better than me using my Acurus Amplifier?
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:28 PM   #7
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I like this one.You can find it cheaper this is just the listed price on the site


http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...2&CTID=5000300
the one issue that I have with the Yammys right now is that from last years 863 on down, they are all bench testing poorly, just like is typical of the Sonys. The Onkyo 806 was down quite a bit from the 805, again for features. I am sure that Pioneers will be the same since these are the 4 most popular companies, typically.

I would go with the Marantz 6003 100 watts rated, and its doing 96wpc with 7 channels driven or the Marantz 5003 model or like the Denon 2309CI, they are testing really well, they may not have as many features, but the sound and power are there.

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Old 06-15-2009, 03:04 PM   #8
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the one issue that I have with the Yammys right now is that from last years 863 on down, they are all bench testing poorly, just like is typical of the Sonys. The Onkyo 806 was down quite a bit from the 805, again for features. I am sure that Pioneers will be the same since these are the 4 most popular companies, typically.
callas, if you think the Pioneers are starting to sacrifice power for features, do you think the SC-05 would be considered in that group as well?
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callas, if you think the Pioneers are starting to sacrifice power for features, do you think the SC-05 would be considered in that group as well?
Here is a is a benchmark test for the Pioneer Elite SC-05 from Ultimate AV mag. The results are almost exactly as stated by Pioneer. Features are even better. Overall a great performer.
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Here is a is a benchmark test for the Pioneer Elite SC-05 from Ultimate AV mag. The results are almost exactly as stated by Pioneer. Features are even better. Overall a great performer.
I was afraid you were going to say that......... I really want this receiver and I have the $$$, but I just think I can do a bit better on the price point......however I will not wait too long....thanks.
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I just picked up a VSX-03TXH for $599 sealed box from best buy for my bedroom.

I purchased a VSX-03TXH ($599) and a BDP-51FD ($269) at the same time and worked the price down from list by buying both at the same time. I ended up returning the BDP-51FD and exchanging for a Panasonic DMP-BD80 for the same cost.

I would say its a good bang for the buck for what I needed it for.
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I was afraid you were going to say that......... I really want this receiver and I have the $$$, but I just think I can do a bit better on the price point......however I will not wait too long....thanks.
Haha, you can't fight it thre urge is too irresistable. Did you try Amazon?, I think it was 785.00, don't quote me. Anyways the SVS should be here soon, huh?
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Haha, you can't fight it thre urge is too irresistable. Did you try Amazon?, I think it was 785.00, don't quote me. Anyways the SVS should be here soon, huh?
They e-mailed me on Friday and said it would ship then or today. I have another e-mail to them at the moment to see if it has indeed shipped out. Believe me, I will take some good pics of this thing.
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callas, if you think the Pioneers are starting to sacrifice power for features, do you think the SC-05 would be considered in that group as well?
Yeah, by the bench test that was done that Got Rice showed it looks like a great receiver, I wasn't trying to say that Pioneer IS doing that, but that I was afraid that it seems to be a trend moreso now and I wouldn't be surprised if they did fudge the numbers. I would be interested to see what the bench test show for their non-elite line of receivers. Since it is usually the mid-level receivers that have this issue more then everyones high end lines.
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They e-mailed me on Friday and said it would ship then or today. I have another e-mail to them at the moment to see if it has indeed shipped out. Believe me, I will take some good pics of this thing.
Hell yeah!!!
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Yeah, by the bench test that was done that Got Rice showed it looks like a great receiver, I wasn't trying to say that Pioneer IS doing that, but that I was afraid that it seems to be a trend moreso now and I wouldn't be surprised if they did fudge the numbers. I would be interested to see what the bench test show for their non-elite line of receivers. Since it is usually the mid-level receivers that have this issue more then everyones high end lines.
Agree 100%, Whatever tests they use for these newer mid level receivers are way off. Almost every brand across the board.
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