The Green Planet 4K UHD (2022)

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

it seems strange to shoot anything 25/50fps these days, why not shoot things like this at a normal theatrical 24fps? (at this point why not even use the superior 30/60Hz for stuff that you don't want to be filmic since i think any digital set can handle that no matter where these? although perhaps I am wrong on this, but I thought the need for 25/50 went away once they got beyond basic CRT synched to local electrical swithcing frequency)

I honestly don't know what framerate these BBC documentaries are shooting and/or mastering at these days. I would still think they are mastered at 25 fps because a great deal of the viewership, including most of the countries that co-produce these documentaries, will be watching on TV in that format, anyway.

As for why they aren't broadcast in 60Hz worldwide, my understanding is that while many TVs sold in 50Hz territories can handle 60Hz video, some older TVs still cannot, so that, combined with the need to make the program available as widely as possible, means that the broadcasts in 50Hz territories will be 25 fps. To give you an idea of how many people might be watching TV in antiquated ways, the UK still offers a TV license fee specifically for viewing in black and white, which is almost exactly 1/3 of the price of a color TV license fee. Clearly, there are still people in the UK watching TV in black and white!

EDIT: The Sun claims that 4,450 black and white licenses were still in force on March 31st, 2021, however, the number is dropping sharply year-to-year and the remainder are almost all renewals done "in good faith", so make of that what you will.

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

Anybody know if this is more climate-crisis propaganda? I’ve read some of the more recent BBC releases are. PE II was pretty light in this regard, along with BP but the later releases were thick, or so I’m told. Hopefully they’ve laid off the gloom n doom on this release.

It's not. I've watched all 4 episodes aired so far and this is very much in line with Planet Earth II and Our Planet, fantastic stuff, as usual from Sir David Attenborough.

[Brahmzy]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

It's not. I've watched all 4 episodes aired so far and this is very much in line with Planet Earth II and Our Planet, fantastic stuff, as usual from Sir David Attenborough.

Thanks! That's good news.


Not going to debate Climate Crisis here. I simply don't want to listen or see about it while I'm watching these.

And I absolutely agree - all of these documentaries should have HFR. I hate the slideshow panning shots on a documentary.

[leniphotography]

Call me ignorant, but I don't understand how these discs or films wouldn't play in the U.S. based on the Hz. I own Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and it plays in 4K, HDR, 60fps. Looks beautiful and has no issues. The fact that it won't play in the U.S. seems annoyingly purposeful while simultaneously pointless.

I'm sure this all sounds stupid, so someone educate me, please.

[NotASpeckOfCereal]

Originally Posted by leniphotography

Call me ignorant, but I don't understand how these discs or films wouldn't play in the U.S. based on the Hz. I own Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and it plays in 4K, HDR, 60fps. Looks beautiful and has no issues. The fact that it won't play in the U.S. seems annoyingly purposeful while simultaneously pointless.

I'm sure this all sounds stupid, so someone educate me, please.

I've imported several titles from the UK and Europe and they've always played on my US player. I've never heard complaints on these boards about anything but region-lock issues (which is different, and the 4K discs won't have).

I don't believe that local broadcasting formats affects optical disc publishing, but if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will provide actual references (not just stated opinion) on the subject.

Chris

[emailking]

I don't mind an episode about global warming in these sets. They're 90% animal documentaries, and we're likely in one of the biggest extinction events in history.

Although the blu-rays are a different framerate, if you have an Oppo it will just convert it so you can watch it.

[wol-shiver]

Any news on the north american release ?

[Angry Virginian]

Disc 1

Disc Title: The Green Planet - Disc 1
Disc Label: The Green Planet - Disc 1
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Disc 2

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Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 5005 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4365 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -31dB)

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"On Location" episode extras are combined into Disc 2. It is in HD.

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by emailking

I don't mind an episode about global warming in these sets. They're 90% animal documentaries, and we're likely in one of the biggest extinction events in history.

Although the blu-rays are a different framerate, if you have an Oppo it will just convert it so you can watch it.

It's the same as Planet Earth II, at least the UK release. The BDs are 25fps, the way it was produced and aired, while the 4Ks are converted to 23.976 fps and pitch corrected (because of limitations of the format).

The US release, if it happens, will have the same 4K discs, while the BDs will probably be different, converted to 23.976 like the 4K discs.

[PissedOffPeoN]

Is there anyway to track geodis from amazon uk.. other then the site.. mines seems to be not moving now.

[nova44]

Watching the first episode right now.
Spectacular.

[McCrutchy]

I watched the Blu-rays from the set at the weekend and this is a really fascinating documentary. Wait until you see how they have bettered the time lapse photography, to more accurately show how plants live and behave like animals. For those who fear plants are boring and simply must have animals, they also feature in every episode, so there is something for everyone. Attenborough even presents on location in the episodes, including a few places that must have had the insurers sweating, like putting him in the Arctic Circle, or his encounter with a particularly savage cactus. I simply can't believe he'll be 96 in May, he could easily be mistaken for a man 25 years younger.

The Blu-ray is wonderful, so I assume the 4K UHD must be exceptional.

[emailking]

I ordered it from Amazon UK. Don't want to wait, lol

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by emailking

I don't mind an episode about global warming in these sets. They're 90% animal documentaries, and we're likely in one of the biggest extinction events in history.

yes

Not to mention the propaganda is from where the money is.... big oil. Heck their own internal documents even talk about how their OWN scientists first reported on what their products were doing and others on how they could best try to mislead the public through propaganda campaigns.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

I assume this will get a US release like all the others?

[emailking]

Watched the first episode today. Looked great!

I didn't know how big a role fungi play in the rainforests!

[emailking]

Watched the 2nd episode. Even better with all the water, which always looks good in HDR.

[emailking]

Watched the 3rd episode which also looked amazing. I really wish though they would give you some kind of idea of the time elapsed in all these time lapse shots. I mean they make the plants look like animals basically with directed and intentional movements all over the place. And that may be true, but it matters to me whether something I'm watching takes an hour or a day or week, lol.

[emailking]

Watched the 4th episode, deserts. It's really amazing how many plants can survive when there's no water. Although I've seen some of that with my own eyes in California. This episode also had a few shots of a technician in a lab. It's been a long time since they've had a non-nature shot in an Attenborough nature doc.

[emailking]

Watched episode 5 about interaction with humans. For those worried it's a global warming episode, it's really not. There's a lot about taking up too much land for farming but it only touches on global warming a few times. All of the episodes comment on it at one point, but it's pretty relevant lol. This was pretty good but the other episodes had stronger picture. Might partly be because of the topic. Now I only have the behind the scenes episode to watch but I might not do it for a few weeks.