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Old 05-15-2022, 10:12 PM   #1
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Talking [BDInfo] Possible to get bitrates off disc without ripping --- YES!

[EDIT 5/20/2022]
AnyDVD HD (possibly with the assistance of my MakeMKV license) is doing exactly this!
I am not ripping any data to the hard drive (I process tracked it) and I have matched my results to about 10 different discs without fail!
Awesome!


I already have working paid MakeMKV rips to folder structure which BDInfo works correctly on...However I'd like to go through my entire collection and fill in the bitrates for you guys.

I don't want to fill 60gb of data over and over onto any of my hard drives.

Alternatively anyone know software that does this?

I wrote to MakeMKV software writer to see if he will ever re-virtualize the disc's folder structure and decrypt titles on the fly as they are requested from that virtual disc drive. But he rarely updates his code and it's a huge ask.

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Old 05-15-2022, 10:17 PM   #2
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Side note: Anyone know why my bitrate submission for
/movies/Fearless-Blu-ray/1974/
has not been processed? I did do that correctly right? Note that there are multiple cuts of the film on this disc...

I selected edit movie and supplied this under "Average video bit rate"
Video bitrate = 17.03

Code:
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00002.MPLS                                                      VC-1    2:20:54 23,951,616,000  45,835,782,937  22.66   17.03   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4299Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Jet Li's Fearless
Disc Label:     FEARLESS
Disc Size:      45,835,782,937 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00002.MPLS
Length:                 2:20:54.446 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   23,951,616,000 bytes
Total Bitrate:          22.66 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
VC-1 Video              17028 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         4299 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  4299 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         25.512 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         20.206 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         20.792 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          20.794 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00153.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:20:54.446     23,951,616,000  22,664          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:03:36.799     14,802 kbps     33,122 kbps     00:00:50.050    26,729 kbps     00:00:49.049    22,964 kbps     00:00:49.049    78,104 bytes    318,441 bytes   00:00:35.744    
2               0:03:36.799     0:09:52.216     17,595 kbps     27,377 kbps     00:06:28.721    25,029 kbps     00:06:28.721    23,396 kbps     00:06:26.219    91,734 bytes    380,896 bytes   00:06:04.447    
3               0:13:29.016     0:06:35.103     18,634 kbps     38,982 kbps     00:17:54.740    36,130 kbps     00:17:53.947    34,635 kbps     00:17:53.989    97,150 bytes    523,415 bytes   00:17:56.992    
4               0:20:04.119     0:05:16.649     19,198 kbps     35,083 kbps     00:20:07.998    32,326 kbps     00:20:04.119    27,535 kbps     00:20:04.119    100,092 bytes   372,278 bytes   00:20:37.277    
5               0:25:20.769     0:06:59.043     18,414 kbps     26,887 kbps     00:31:29.178    24,991 kbps     00:30:59.440    24,761 kbps     00:30:55.478    96,002 bytes    299,793 bytes   00:31:49.908    
6               0:32:19.812     0:05:55.396     16,733 kbps     26,034 kbps     00:37:07.516    23,357 kbps     00:32:22.774    21,515 kbps     00:32:20.730    87,239 bytes    301,222 bytes   00:32:21.814    
7               0:38:15.209     0:02:34.070     16,556 kbps     21,430 kbps     00:38:37.314    19,561 kbps     00:38:36.814    18,192 kbps     00:39:02.173    86,315 bytes    271,074 bytes   00:39:29.450    
8               0:40:49.280     0:06:01.986     21,303 kbps     34,188 kbps     00:43:53.797    28,566 kbps     00:43:53.756    27,938 kbps     00:43:53.839    111,065 bytes   403,185 bytes   00:42:03.062    
9               0:46:51.266     0:05:55.563     13,102 kbps     26,592 kbps     00:50:44.416    23,443 kbps     00:52:38.864    20,423 kbps     00:52:34.234    68,462 bytes    238,905 bytes   00:47:58.792    
10              0:52:46.830     0:08:12.867     17,252 kbps     40,333 kbps     00:53:41.593    37,423 kbps     00:53:41.593    35,725 kbps     00:53:41.593    90,034 bytes    521,169 bytes   00:58:37.180    
11              1:00:59.697     0:10:38.471     16,965 kbps     36,582 kbps     01:10:46.116    32,877 kbps     01:10:42.738    29,351 kbps     01:10:37.775    88,484 bytes    519,047 bytes   01:03:56.332    
12              1:11:38.168     0:09:12.593     17,442 kbps     30,957 kbps     01:16:38.051    27,204 kbps     01:12:01.275    24,833 kbps     01:11:56.270    91,057 bytes    370,432 bytes   01:12:15.164    
13              1:20:50.762     0:05:39.213     15,631 kbps     37,162 kbps     01:21:00.230    35,123 kbps     01:20:57.811    32,409 kbps     01:20:55.809    81,494 bytes    477,224 bytes   01:21:00.772    
14              1:26:29.976     0:08:21.334     14,936 kbps     39,570 kbps     01:26:45.783    36,287 kbps     01:26:45.074    35,480 kbps     01:26:40.236    77,867 bytes    424,323 bytes   01:26:51.581    
15              1:34:51.310     0:03:55.401     16,620 kbps     30,405 kbps     01:36:41.212    25,388 kbps     01:35:02.113    23,835 kbps     01:35:01.112    86,650 bytes    331,604 bytes   01:35:51.203    
16              1:38:46.712     0:06:06.407     20,078 kbps     30,556 kbps     01:43:15.647    25,857 kbps     01:43:14.563    25,592 kbps     01:43:14.646    104,676 bytes   352,406 bytes   01:43:14.771    
17              1:44:53.120     0:09:13.719     17,053 kbps     33,812 kbps     01:44:53.787    31,787 kbps     01:44:56.665    30,897 kbps     01:44:53.120    88,907 bytes    495,634 bytes   01:44:53.161    
18              1:54:06.840     0:03:54.234     15,055 kbps     26,219 kbps     01:56:50.044    21,668 kbps     01:56:49.752    20,704 kbps     01:56:49.752    78,490 bytes    276,005 bytes   01:54:14.430    
19              1:58:01.074     0:10:00.641     19,123 kbps     45,768 kbps     01:58:05.870    32,885 kbps     01:58:05.453    28,089 kbps     01:58:05.161    99,696 bytes    402,838 bytes   01:58:06.454    
20              2:08:01.715     0:08:43.356     16,949 kbps     30,878 kbps     02:15:14.731    27,368 kbps     02:15:14.731    23,374 kbps     02:15:12.187    88,443 bytes    329,543 bytes   02:16:27.762    
21              2:16:45.071     0:04:09.374     7,818 kbps      21,847 kbps     02:18:14.661    21,385 kbps     02:18:14.035    20,830 kbps     02:18:10.865    41,131 bytes    296,402 bytes   02:20:17.575    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00153.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0xEA            VC-1                                    8454.321                17,028                  17,995,239,842  97,922,337      
00153.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8454.321                4,299                   4,542,935,980   26,007,292      
00153.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8454.321                26                      26,960,728      156,612         
00153.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8454.321                20                      21,353,621      123,900         
00153.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8454.321                21                      21,973,173      127,320         
00153.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            8454.321                21                      21,974,809      127,293
<---- END FORUMS PASTE ----> QUICK SUMMARY: Disc Title: Jet Li's Fearless Disc Label: FEARLESS Disc Size: 45,835,782,937 bytes Protection: AACS Playlist: 00002.MPLS Size: 23,951,616,000 bytes Length: 2:20:54.446 Total Bitrate: 22.66 Mbps Video: VC-1 Video / 17028 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3 Audio: Chinese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4299 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) Subtitle: English / 25.512 kbps Subtitle: English / 20.206 kbps Subtitle: Spanish / 20.792 kbps Subtitle: French / 20.794 kbps

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Old 05-16-2022, 12:22 AM   #3
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Side note: Anyone know why my bitrate submission for
/movies/Fearless-Blu-ray/1974/
has not been processed?
When did you submit? The site tends to not, or be slow at, approving contributions coming up to and over the weekend.
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Old 05-16-2022, 01:35 AM   #4
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When did you submit? The site tends to not, or be slow at, approving contributions coming up to and over the weekend.
Just maybe couple days ago. I'm mainly worried that I am doing it correctly.
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When did you submit? The site tends to not, or be slow at, approving contributions coming up to and over the weekend.
Can you comment on this being the correct method or link me to a guide to do it properly?
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Can you comment on this being the correct method or link me to a guide to do it properly?
It looks like you did it correctly and your submission has since been approved.
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Old 05-18-2022, 10:11 PM   #7
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Thank You.
Now can anyone comment on software that already does this? or perhaps move this thread to the correct forum category. I am not sure if this is the right one.

I really really thought that one software was already doing this. They just emulate the disc drive with decrypted contents and the main reasoning for them to provide that feature was for you to watch your blurays on any 3rd party video player of your choice after you've paid them the huge fee.

ANYDVD HD description states
AnyDVD HD is another Windows-based decrypter that removes restrictions of Blu-ray and DVD disc automatically in the background. After decryption, the Blu-ray will become usable to all programs on your Windows computer, such as Blu-ray backup software like CloneDVD, CloneBD, and others.


I always thought they did this and this description sounds a lot like that "in the background" etc
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I was also wondering that and want a way to directly scan discs without waiting an hour or two for ripping first.
I created an issue (or rather feature request) in the GitHub repository of BDInfo for that, but unfortunately there has been no response so far:
https://github.com/UniqProject/BDInfo/issues/32

In case you are a developer or don't mind creating an account there, it would probably help to raise your interest there as well.

Maybe a quick introduction if you had no clue: GitHub is a place for developers to upload their code/version control infos and collaborate.
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Old 06-19-2022, 06:38 AM   #9
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I was also wondering that and want a way to directly scan discs without waiting an hour or two for ripping first.
I created an issue (or rather feature request) in the GitHub repository of BDInfo for that, but unfortunately there has been no response so far:
https://github.com/UniqProject/BDInfo/issues/32

In case you are a developer or don't mind creating an account there, it would probably help to raise your interest there as well.

Maybe a quick introduction if you had no clue: GitHub is a place for developers to upload their code/version control infos and collaborate.
That would be perfect. I thought about requesting from them as well but figured since I paid for the full MAKEMKV license I might have more luck from him. Here's my thread if you didn't already see it

https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/view...122632#p122632


NOTE ::: I did edit my post and YES >>> ANYDVD worked perfectly on all but 2 discs in my collection which I proceeded to rip with MAKEMKV and run afterwards.
Pretty cool but I'd rather not support some other software when I can just pay mike admin over there the same money just to investigate a development method which would support everything.

EDIT2: Oh and I actually still have an idea how this might work with makeMKV and without BDInfo developing anymore features. (Now that my ANYDVD trial has expired :P)
Streaming was once supported and I believe still is through a launch option which is a UPNP access to the decrypted disc. If we could mirror that to an actual windows folder (with other software) and point BDInfo at that I'm sure that would work too.

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No, I have not seen that thread as I created an issue on GitHub already before that and didn't think this is a responsibility of MakeMKV - it already has decryption support for 3rd party applications ("Integration" tab) and I tried enabling it globally and also specifically for BDInfo, but it can still not read the disc; so I assumed it's a limitation of how BDInfo tries to read the disc that prevents the on-the-fly decryption from MakeMKV working there.

While I knew about AnyDVD HD a long time ago I also want to only pay for MakeMKV and not for AnyDVD HD as well and one might also want to consider the problems AnyDVD has had in the past.

I wanted to check the codebase of BDInfo and perhaps try working on an implementation that works with MakeMKV myself, but I often don't have have much time and it would anyways be better to be tackled primarily by the current developer. And currently I have another ongoing modding project.^^
They don't seem to be active anymore though? At least that project was active another year ago, where I opened an issue and it has been resolved very quickly..

Well, for now I only scan the discs where I'm curious about it or want to rip them anyways and will leave the rest for later (or others).

I'll read up on your thread later.
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