Wild Orchid 2: Blue Movie Blue (1991) coming from Scorpion

[whiteberry]

From the director of Wild Orchid and “Red Shoe Diaries” comes this sensual thriller about a beautiful young woman caught between passion and innocence - and two shades of the truth. Starring Tom Skerritt (Top Gun, Alien, Opposing Force), Robert Davi (License to Kill, Showgirls, Die Hard, The Taking of Beverly Hills), Wendy Hughes (Paradise Road, My Brilliant Career, Happy New Year), Nina Siemaszko (License to Drive, Lost Angels, Airheads), Joe Dallesandro (The Limey, Andy Warhol’s Frankenstein, Seeds of Evil) and Liane Curtis (Sixteen Candles, Critters 2: The Main Course), Wild Orchid 2: Blue Movie Blue has an “erotic ambience” that has “everything to do with fantasy” (The New York Times).

After her father (Skerritt) dies, Blue (Siemaszko) is forced to grow up fast. Taken in by Elle (Hughes), a high-class brothel madam, she discovers a beguiling world of power and pleasure - but also the tightening grip of Elle’s control. To make matters worse, she is falling for Josh (Brent Fraser, Dark Side of Genius, Wild at Heart), a regular guy who doesn’t know about her double life. Now, if she tells the truth, will she lose him forever?

Starring Wendy Hughes, Tom Skerritt, Robert Davi, Brent Fraser, Nina Siemaszko

Special Features: Deleted Scenes, Theatrical Trailer

Scorpion Releasing // 1991 // 108 Minutes // Rated R // Color // English with English SDH Subtitles // Region A

https://roninflix.com/products/wild-orchid-2 (credit to dawnofthediscs)

Trailer:

Wild Orchid 2: Two Shades Of Blue Trailer 1992 - YouTube

TV Spot:

May 1992 - TV Trailer for 'Wild Orchid 2: Two Shades of Blue' - YouTube

The differences between the R-rated version and the Unrated version:
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=199199

[willo007]

Why did they not get the Unrated cut? Why not use the US title ?

[scorsese1]

There must be some kind of weird rights issue exclusive to the unrated cuts of both Wild Orchid 1 and 2 in the US, as now both of them have been/are being released here on blu-ray in the cut versions only. The UK got the uncut version of the first on blu though this sequel isn’t available there yet at all. Unless this is just incompetence…

[houseca]

So wrong title and wrong version??? Come on Scorpion, get your shit together!

[Buscemi]

Originally Posted by houseca

So wrong title and wrong version??? Come on Scorpion, get your shit together!

Blue Movie Blue was the original title and the title that was used for the DVD release. Two Shades of Blue was the title used by the distributor to make it seem like a sequel to Wild Orchid when in actuality, it's not.

As for rated vs. unrated, it's a rights thing as MGM doesn't have the unrated version rights in the US (I'm thinking Sony might have those). But does it really matter for something like this?

[scorsese1]

Originally Posted by Buscemi

Blue Movie Blue was the original title and the title that was used for the DVD release. Two Shades of Blue was the title used by the distributor to make it seem like a sequel to Wild Orchid when in actuality, it's not.

As for rated vs. unrated, it's a rights thing as MGM doesn't have the unrated version rights in the US (I'm thinking Sony might have those). But does it really matter for something like this?

For an erotic drama? Yes, having the unrated version is infinitely preferable. Especially if the movie isn’t that great overall, having only a toned down version makes it even worse.

[willo007]

Originally Posted by Buscemi

Blue Movie Blue was the original title and the title that was used for the DVD release. Two Shades of Blue was the title used by the distributor to make it seem like a sequel to Wild Orchid when in actuality, it's not.

As for rated vs. unrated, it's a rights thing as MGM doesn't have the unrated version rights in the US (I'm thinking Sony might have those). But does it really matter for something like this?

Yes, the movies original title while being made was just "Blue Movie Blue".

However, to capitalize on the (minor) success of director Zalman King and producer Mark Damon original effort for Vision (pdg) International, the decision was made to change the title to Wild Orchid 2: Two Shades Of Blue.

Wild Orchid 2: Two Shades Of Blue was the US theatrical title.


Wild Orchid 2: Two Shades Of Blue was the US VHS title.

Wild Orchid 2: Two Shades Of Blue was the US laserdisc title.


The other title was used when released internationally on VHS;



There is no reason why this nor the first film are only available as only the R rated cuts.

Both of them were previously released UNRATED on VHS, Laserdisc and the first one on DVD by MGM;



No excuse.

[whiteberry]

"Blue Movie Blue" was used on MGM's DVD cover and also on the title card of the version used for the DVD. The title card on the HD version available at digital retailers also uses "Blue Movie Blue":



Yes, it's disappointing that it appears it won't be the Unrated version but it's not surprising because the DVD was the R-rated version as is the HD version available at digital retailers. The Unrated version hasn't been released since the VHS/laserdisc which is typical for these movies. Dream Lover is the same way...the Unrated version was last released on the VHS/laserdisc and if we ever get a blu-ray release, it will probably be of the R-rated version (the HD version at digital retailers is the R-rated version).

At least it appears Walt is making the effort to include the scenes from the Unrated version as "deleted scenes". It will be interesting to see if they are HD or SD taken from the VHS/laserdisc.

[whiteberry]

Originally Posted by Buscemi

As for rated vs. unrated, it's a rights thing as MGM doesn't have the unrated version rights in the US (I'm thinking Sony might have those).

I'm not entirely convinced Sony retains the rights to the Unrated versions of these movies they released on VHS/laserdisc. Eureka was able to get the Unrated version from MGM for their blu-ray of the first movie and the first movie like the second movie was released by Columbia (Sony) on VHS/laserdisc. But I could be wrong.

I think it is more likely that MGM only has a HD master for the R-rated version and Walt isn't going to spend the money on a 2K restoration of the Unrated version. He'd never make his money back. The boutique labels avoid these movies like the plague and Kino stopped releasing Red Shoe Diaries on DVD after only releasing the first season.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by willo007

Why did they not get the Unrated cut? Why not use the US title ?

My main reason for passing on the first film.

[willo007]

Originally Posted by whiteberry

I'm not entirely convinced Sony retains the rights to the Unrated versions of these movies they released on VHS/laserdisc. Eureka was able to get the Unrated version from MGM for their blu-ray of the first movie and the first movie like the second movie was released by Columbia (Sony) on VHS/laserdisc. But I could be wrong.

I think it is more likely that MGM only has a HD master for the R-rated version and Walt isn't going to spend the money on a 2K restoration of the Unrated version. He'd never make his money back. The boutique labels avoid these movies like the plague and Kino stopped releasing Red Shoe Diaries on DVD after only releasing the first season.

Walt could add the Unrated version in SD as a bonus feature.

Originally Posted by sfmarine

My main reason for passing on the first film.

I am only buying this if it hits below $10.

BTW; Thank you for your service.

[whiteberry]

A soundtrack for the movie was never released but two songs featured in the movie have been released:

• Neville Brothers - Sons And Daughters (Reprise)
  
  It is available on the Neville Brothers' "Brother's Keeper" album:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothe...rothers_album)
  
  
• George S. Clinton/Merry Clayton - On The Other Side
  
  Composer George S. Clinton has made it available on his SoundCloud account:
  https://soundcloud.com/user8372218/on-the-other-side

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by willo007

Walt could add the Unrated version in SD as a bonus feature.



I am only buying this if it hits below $10.

BTW; Thank you for your service.

I would bite for that price. Although I am not sure how low Scorpion releases traditionally go.

Thanks willo007!

[lildemon666]

So this version on blu is cut?

[willo007]

Originally Posted by lildemon666

So this version on blu is cut?

Yes just the R rated cut.

[lildemon666]

Originally Posted by willo007

Yes just the R rated cut.

Will we ever see and UNRATED CUT on blu?

[SpaceBlackKnight]

MGM owns worldwide rights to both movies so it's definitely not a rights thing in regards to different cuts. What probably happened is that MGM only have 35mm IPs to the R-rated versions, and that the unrated film elements are lost/been discarded and only survive on tape masters.

[whiteberry]

DiabolikDVD has added it to their website so this doesn't appear to be a Ronin Flix exclusive:
https://www.diabolikdvd.com/product/...rpion-blu-ray/

[Krawk]

Originally Posted by whiteberry

DiabolikDVD has added it to their website so this doesn't appear to be a Ronin Flix exclusive:
https://www.diabolikdvd.com/product/...rpion-blu-ray/

Appears to be out, just got my copy. So, what was the actual street date?

[houseca]

I got this in the Ronin Flix sale and had a chance to watch. Not as bad of a movie as I was anticipating. I actually liked it.

It appears the 3 cut scenes are in the special features, but in 4:3 SD.... so basically VHS quality. Still nice to have though. Makes perfect sense now why they released it this way. No way they could do an entire new HD master just to include those 3 scenes.