In Office Depot tonight - asked about BD burners - got into argument

[dobyblue]

So I go into Office Depot on the way home to pick up some paper for my printer.
I went to see if they have any BD burners - they do not. I probably should have guessed.
The loose panted, sweaty guy walking around looking important was obviously a tech guy, so I asked him if they have gotten any BD burners in yet.

His immediate response and the rest of the conversation:

• "No and I can guarantee we never will"
• "Why is that?"
• "Because they cost too much"
• "What about when they come down in price?"
• "No we never will because Blu-ray isn't going to last much longer"
• "Oh? Why is that?"
• "Well it's because of porn, Sony won't let any porn on their format"
• "That's not true, porn is already available on both formats"
• "No, um.....it just was announced by Sony last week"
• "No they announced a long time ago that they wouldn't replicate any porn on their disc replication lines, but porn has been out for sometime now on Blu-ray from Vivid's Debbie Does Dallas....Again to several other titles available from CD Girls, so I'm afraid you're incorrect. Sony doesn't run Blu-ray"
• "Well they are the big power behind it"
• "Actually Sony along with Philips, Pioneer, Panasonic, JVC, Samsung and others run Blu-ray; any decisions made are made by the board of directors not Sony"
• "Well there's also the problem with all the discs breaking"
• "Oh, I haven't heard of that"
• "Yeah the aluminum in the disc is causing it to crack, it's on CNN"
• "I know of disc rot and that happened on a run of a few copies of The Prestige due to an error in the pressing, but that's about it. Why is it you're telling me false information? You should be telling the consumers the truth about new technologies, not making things up"
• "Well, okay sir, that's your opinion. Is there anything else I can help you with"

(Immediately begins walking away)

• "Yes, you can start researching what you're talking about and find out facts and stop telling the consumer lies"

I go to the cashier, she asks me how everything is. I tell her about the guy who told me false information and tell her I work for Panasonic Canada.

She says she will definitely let someone know and that "Keith" is normally pretty good with stuff.

Yeah, I'll tell you why he's pretty good with stuff, because he's one of those assertive speakers who talks shit and makes stuff up but sounds good doing it. Unfortunately he had to run away when he realized he was talking to an informed consumer.

Keith is the guy who thinks Blu-ray is going nowhere and tells lies.
If you want to tell Keith that you read about this and that you think he should start reading non-propaganda sites and actually start looking into the facts (6+ million devices on market, 2+ million discs sold, etc.) you can contact him here:

10 YMCA DRIVE
JUST ACROSS FROM COSTCO
Store# 733
ST CATHARINES, ON L2N 4G9
(905) 935-7500

[Robmx]

I know that store.... right beside Kelseys by BMW ! I live in niagara too !

[Weez_Dawg]

HA HA HA HA....I might just have to call and ask keith if they sell any bd burners!!!!!!!

[CAB]

Did you ask him what is AVSforum ID was?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Robmx

I know that store.... right beside Kelseys by BMW ! I live in niagara too !

Ha, ha, my girlfriend loves getting the spinach dip from that Kelseys.


I live smack downtown right beside Montebello Park.

[stockstar1138]

office depot?? seriously, no wonder he didn't know anything. that store sucks unless your going in to buy an office chair.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

office depot?? seriously, no wonder he didn't know anything. that store sucks unless your going in to buy an office chair.

...or computer paper!



Funny thing is 10 years ago there was probably Keith's older brother working the same shift saying the same thing about DVD minus the porn argument.

Seriously, are people really this dense?

[LynxFX]

Originally Posted by CAB

Did you ask him what is AVSforum ID was?

LOL

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by CAB

Did you ask him what is AVSforum ID was?

seriously this guy is probably so misinformed he doesn't even know what avsforum is.

[Banjo]

I live in St. Catharines too as well. I haven't been to Office Depot in a while but I'll keep that in mind if I go there.

Anybody who use the porn argument should be smacked in the face. I hate it when people are that dense.

[Weez_Dawg]

Wait...office depot does suck. Good thing that goober works there and not BB or CC.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by LynxFX

LOL

Seriously, that stuff is right out of the Red Manifesto. Absolutely zero independent thinking applied to the puff pieces off the Net.

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

"Why is it you're telling me false information? You should be telling the consumers the truth about new technologies, not making things up
"
"Well, okay sir, that's your opinion. Is there anything else I can help you with"
(Immediately begins walking away)
"Yes, you can start researching what you're talking about and find out facts and stop telling the consumer lies"

DAMN!! I wish I was there for that little exchange. You cold smacked him but good.

[Amel]

lol

that is a funny story

[katharsis]

hahaha... nicely done though. I would've ended up tearing that store apart!

This seems to be happening on a regular basis in bigger retail places. If it is Best Buy, CompUSA or whatever. Sometimes it seems like the consumer who really wants to buy something has informed himself / herself better before actually going into the store then those "sales" people that should've gotten training!

Sad but true....

[Fozziwig]

Originally Posted by Amel

lol

that is a funny story

Funny, until you realise that on most days Keith won't be faced with dobyblue. Keith will be brainwashing the 'great unwashed', and they'll just take that shit like it was carved in stone.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Banjo

I live in St. Catharines too as well. I haven't been to Office Depot in a while but I'll keep that in mind if I go there.

Anybody who use the porn argument should be smacked in the face. I hate it when people are that dense.

What I like is when store employees in 'family friendly' stores are so quick to drop the porn issue...

"Nah, you don't want to buy that DirectTV subscription, cable has better porn." Would go over real well.

[kaliraver]

I guess I might have to give Keith a call, hmmm...

[Mericalis]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

She says she will definitely let someone know and that "Keith" is normally pretty good with stuff.

You should have told her that she shouldn't believe everything she hears from "Keith". She sounds like a lot of people who just take someone's word for it and doesn't look into it his/herself.

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by reiella

What I like is when store employees in 'family friendly' stores are so quick to drop the porn issue...

"Nah, you don't want to buy that DirectTV subscription, cable has better porn." Would go over real well.

Yeah, I just find the idea of using pornography as an argument to be tacky. I don't want to debate if I should buy a video device solely based on how much support it's receiving from the adult industry. Especially in a retail store like Best Buy where everybody can overhear the conversation. Once you use the porn argument, you'll end up looking like a pervert.

I just cannot believe people are really that dense to resort to such an argument.