Journey: Live in Concert at Lollapalooza Blu-ray

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Just wanted to let those know out there that this title has 5.1 in DD at 375 kbps. So overall pretty poor for any Blu-ray release period. it isn't even at a full 448 kbps that the DVD audio format is capable of. I personally will not buy any Blu-ray release without lossless audio. The video is in MPEG-4 or AVC and the concert is good. I would actually recommend the older Eagle Rock release from 2016 if you can find it. I didn't realize till last week Journey had released a title under their label. Eagle Rock never seems to disappoint.

[McCrutchy]

Sorry to hear that the Frontiers edition is poor. I found a scan of it online and it looks like it is a BD-25 with LPCM 2.0 audio and Dolby Digital 5.1 at 384 kbps:

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Disc Size:      21,600,560,480 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 1:38:54.762 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   21,560,457,216 bytes
Total Bitrate:          29.06 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description
-----                   -------             -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video        24958 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description
-----                           --------        -------         -----------
LPCM Audio                      Undetermined    2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio             Undetermined    384 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   384 kbps / DN -31dB

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:38:54.762     21,560,457,216  29,063

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------
1               0:00:00.000     0:00:18.226     23,668 kbps     31,528 kbps     00:00:07.590    28,030 kbps     00:00:07.841    27,158 kbps     00:00:02.836    123,110 bytes   454,383 bytes   00:00:08.883
2               0:00:18.226     0:05:22.780     24,817 kbps     40,584 kbps     00:03:19.073    31,877 kbps     00:04:42.198    30,349 kbps     00:02:49.460    129,387 bytes   569,509 bytes   00:05:26.576
3               0:05:41.007     0:04:30.144     24,607 kbps     40,097 kbps     00:06:21.047    31,980 kbps     00:06:04.238    28,924 kbps     00:06:01.944    128,291 bytes   574,743 bytes   00:08:05.568
4               0:10:11.152     0:01:00.894     25,818 kbps     36,829 kbps     00:11:03.162    31,413 kbps     00:11:01.661    30,432 kbps     00:11:01.869    134,604 bytes   453,311 bytes   00:11:10.544
5               0:11:12.046     0:05:18.067     25,134 kbps     39,192 kbps     00:12:50.186    32,048 kbps     00:15:03.110    30,507 kbps     00:15:40.814    131,037 bytes   542,810 bytes   00:15:27.134
6               0:16:30.114     0:04:42.949     24,759 kbps     38,277 kbps     00:19:40.971    31,744 kbps     00:18:41.120    29,914 kbps     00:19:08.397    129,080 bytes   508,276 bytes   00:17:35.179
7               0:21:13.063     0:04:46.953     24,602 kbps     39,761 kbps     00:24:59.456    32,137 kbps     00:23:49.845    29,849 kbps     00:24:25.547    128,264 bytes   489,436 bytes   00:23:14.184
8               0:26:00.016     0:03:18.114     25,368 kbps     39,594 kbps     00:28:55.817    31,861 kbps     00:26:02.894    29,949 kbps     00:26:04.896    132,255 bytes   511,904 bytes   00:28:43.346
9               0:29:18.131     0:04:17.048     24,631 kbps     39,051 kbps     00:33:08.277    32,251 kbps     00:29:54.209    30,264 kbps     00:29:53.416    128,417 bytes   514,144 bytes   00:32:11.971
10              0:33:35.179     0:05:21.946     25,190 kbps     38,908 kbps     00:38:33.561    31,881 kbps     00:35:35.383    30,213 kbps     00:34:04.625    131,329 bytes   490,428 bytes   00:38:08.202
11              0:38:57.126     0:10:22.997     25,067 kbps     39,963 kbps     00:41:10.885    31,500 kbps     00:41:41.248    30,573 kbps     00:47:25.592    130,687 bytes   559,888 bytes   00:43:35.821
12              0:49:20.123     0:03:00.013     24,861 kbps     37,148 kbps     00:50:02.416    31,944 kbps     00:51:51.983    30,096 kbps     00:51:50.982    129,616 bytes   542,689 bytes   00:51:57.948
13              0:52:20.137     0:07:04.048     25,192 kbps     40,531 kbps     00:58:26.419    31,644 kbps     00:58:59.619    30,288 kbps     00:57:10.135    131,337 bytes   533,740 bytes   00:55:43.048
14              0:59:24.185     0:00:42.959     23,886 kbps     37,354 kbps     00:59:31.150    31,404 kbps     00:59:31.150    29,307 kbps     00:59:31.150    124,530 bytes   434,575 bytes   00:59:43.329
15              1:00:07.145     0:07:52.889     25,165 kbps     40,887 kbps     01:04:04.590    32,196 kbps     01:06:49.130    30,538 kbps     01:07:01.017    131,197 bytes   628,846 bytes   01:03:29.931
16              1:08:00.034     0:04:28.059     24,874 kbps     39,579 kbps     01:11:50.055    31,416 kbps     01:08:46.038    30,113 kbps     01:10:54.625    129,682 bytes   514,506 bytes   01:11:27.866
17              1:12:28.093     0:04:45.910     24,916 kbps     39,636 kbps     01:14:02.938    31,680 kbps     01:14:01.103    30,913 kbps     01:15:19.473    129,902 bytes   529,437 bytes   01:14:49.735
18              1:17:14.004     0:06:24.050     25,099 kbps     38,817 kbps     01:19:13.582    32,118 kbps     01:20:14.810    30,402 kbps     01:20:33.995    130,856 bytes   543,901 bytes   01:19:14.499
19              1:23:38.054     0:05:01.009     24,587 kbps     42,328 kbps     01:25:54.274    31,654 kbps     01:25:14.359    30,111 kbps     01:25:53.189    128,183 bytes   497,199 bytes   01:27:57.480
20              1:28:39.063     0:03:34.005     25,172 kbps     38,861 kbps     01:31:19.348    31,243 kbps     01:30:43.688    29,954 kbps     01:30:43.521    131,237 bytes   614,440 bytes   01:32:10.358
21              1:32:13.069     0:06:41.692     24,928 kbps     38,492 kbps     01:34:34.543    31,751 kbps     01:34:16.359    30,580 kbps     01:37:17.748    129,989 bytes   662,517 bytes   01:37:19.875

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     5934.554                24,959                  18,515,089,784  100,708,925
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            und (Undetermined)      5934.554                2,310                   1,713,958,688   9,495,623
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             und (Undetermined)      5934.554                384

This scan could be inaccurate since it's from a dubious site, so if your copy has different audio or video, please reply and let me know. I looked at the Amazon.com listing and many customer reviews are criticizing the picture quality, so perhaps the video was improperly encoded, too?

I would also e-mail Frontiers and complain. I have a couple of their other Blu-rays and as I recall, they have lossless 5.1 audio, so I'm not sure what happened to this one.

The good news is that there does appear to be a better Blu-ray of the concert from Ward Records in Japan. I have a few Ward Records releases and they do their own encodes, so I found the back cover from an eBay listing here. Japanese specs are correct 99% of the time, so this should have DTS-HD MA 5.1 and LPCM 2.0 tracks on a BD-50. Just be aware that Ward use tall DVD-size cases:

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There is also a version with CDs included. Ordinarily, you could purchase either from Amazon Japan here:



But right now it looks like Amazon Japan is blocking orders from the US and probably other countries outside Japan. This has been an ongoing issue and sometimes items become briefly available.

An alternative would be CDJapan:

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/GQXS-90468 (Blu-ray)

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/GQXS-90465 (Blu-ray + 2CD)