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Old 04-11-2023, 03:09 AM   #1
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Question What will be your last Blu-ray player?


Click on that new BR player above ^ to find out if it suits your pedigree, and budget.



* Your Blu-ray movie collection, how much do you think it'll be worth in say twenty-five years from now?
You need a calculator. And a wise outlook @ predicting.
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Old 04-11-2023, 03:13 AM   #2
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On the above player there are two omissions; what are they?
I'm sure there are more than just two, but them too jumped out quicker out of the blue.
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Old 04-11-2023, 03:59 AM   #3
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In January I picked up my second Panasonic UB820 and I can say that it will be my last Blu-Ray player. I now have 11 Blu-Ray players in my house with 4 of them being 4K
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Old 04-11-2023, 05:28 AM   #4
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On the above player there are two omissions; what are they?
I'm sure there are more than just two, but them too jumped out quicker out of the blue.
No USB on the front. (or is it under the small cover by the headphone jack?)
No HDMI input like the Oppo.
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Old 04-11-2023, 10:27 AM   #5
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Same for me, @Lozin. Panasonic UB820 will be my last player. I love the player and I swear by it. It's done me well. The less I use it now the better for longevity/as backup. Since it is rather slow and secondary to that? Plainly most of the movies I own I play them as remux through plex. And what with grading of my collection myself a plan over time, esp Disney stuff? I see 75+ moving to 99% of the time. Eventually.

Something like 5 years down the line I'll be fully digital even for the newly minted discs that year and loving it. The Panasonic will be purely for some unforseen future to have to use to keep my home video hobby alive; or the random times the LAN is out.
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Old 04-11-2023, 03:54 PM   #6
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My last BD Player is the Panasonic BDT330, bought back in 2013 and still connected to my Sony UHD TV. I really don't use it anymore I have gone all Digital Streaming. I have a Vudu Collection of close to 1K of Movies and TV Shows!
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Old 04-11-2023, 04:31 PM   #7
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That thing is ridiculously overpriced.

On a different note: can someone please explain to me why you need XLR outputs on a 4K Blu Ray player? That seemed to be the one of the big reasons the Panasonic 9000 is double the cost of the 820 (and yes the chassis build), and honestly curious why that addition on X player justifies such a huge price jump?

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Old 04-11-2023, 05:40 PM   #8
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That thing is ridiculously overpriced.

On a different note: can someone please explain to me why you need XLR outputs on a 4K Blu Ray player? That seemed to be the one of the big reasons the Panasonic 9000 is double the cost of the 820 (and yes the chassis build), and honestly curious why that addition on X player justifies such a huge price jump?
I don't know. Isn't that for microphones and such?
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Old 04-11-2023, 05:52 PM   #9
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No USB on the front. (or is it under the small cover by the headphone jack?)
No HDMI input like the Oppo.
You're looking @ the connectors. Compared to the last Oppo limousine, yes.

Me I was looking very quick @ the universality (versatility) of disc formats support.
1. DVD-Audio wasn't mentioned, 2. And neither 3D Blu-ray.

* That small conver on the front I'm pretty sure it's a USB port behind it.

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That thing is ridiculously overpriced.

On a different note: can someone please explain to me why you need XLR outputs on a 4K Blu Ray player? That seemed to be the one of the big reasons the Panasonic 9000 is double the cost of the 820 (and yes the chassis build), and honestly curious why that addition on X player justifies such a huge price jump?
Just in case your player is say 50-100 feet from your preamp. It helps with hum.
Other than that it's superficial; it looks serious but practicality and sound quality aren't on a advanced level, unless*. It's the same with the Panny 9000 deluxe. But @ least the 9000 is much more affordable, without SACD, without DVD-Audio, but with 3D BR support.

* Fully balanced XLR connections in order to get superior sound needs to be all in, from the outputs to the inputs. The circuitry and the components used need to be properly implemented, seldom rare, unless very few Ultra high-end pro audio units (very expensive).

What we need is a professional review by a master audio/video reviewer with objective measurements. If ever I find one you can bet I will post it here.
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Old 04-11-2023, 06:32 PM   #10
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☆ It does support DVD Audio and 3D Blu-ray. It's a "Full True" Universal player.
▪︎ https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1681112297

And it is a USB port on the front, behind that small dust protective door.
"It has a unique two colors front: Black + Dark Gunmetal. USB is protected with a dust cap painted in the same color."

"The UDP900 supports all the same disc and file formats as the UDP800, the same 16TB of HDD storage and comes with the addition of 7.1 analog audio output, ESS DAC’s and upgraded power supply.

The main board is 6 layers and includes an ultra low phase noise TCXO temperature-compensated crystal oscillator and the same quad-core Mediatek MT8581 processor chip, while the dedicated stereo output board is 4-layers and uses high grade ELNA, NCC and WIMA audio grade capacitors. Digital to analog conversion is handled by ESS Saber PRO 32-bit Hyperstream II, 8-Channel Audio DAC’s. An ESS9028PRO drives the 7.1 RCA outs while a ESS9038PRO that support up to 140dB DNR drives the balanced XLR stereo outputs."

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Old 04-11-2023, 07:30 PM   #11
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Is now the time to buy that last player? I've been holding out, not wanting to jump in and put time on the motor, parts and warranty. Quality will continue to diminish, though, so I probably shouldn't wait too long...

By the way, does everything UHD still support 3D?
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:20 AM   #12
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You mean if all 4K UHD Blu-ray players still support 3D Blu-ray discs?
I think the majority do. From the source to front projectors 3D is still well alive.
It's the TV manufacturers who lost part of their marbles, IMHO.
That's too bad because nowadays some flat panels are huge.
And 1080p (each eye) is still impressive.

Anyway, one day ... glasses-free. It is inevitable.
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Old 04-12-2023, 03:58 AM   #13
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I have a Panasonic 9000 and a OPPO 203. I already own my last 2 players.
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This is all speculation, but my last Blu-ray player might be purchased in the year 2046 and it will be a 32K Blu-ray player model that replaces my year 2036 16K Blu-ray player model.

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Old 04-12-2023, 10:32 PM   #15
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You're looking @ the connectors. Compared to the last Oppo limousine, yes.

Me I was looking very quick @ the universality (versatility) of disc formats support.
1. DVD-Audio wasn't mentioned, 2. And neither 3D Blu-ray.

* That small conver on the front I'm pretty sure it's a USB port behind it.

Nice to see you sir



Just in case your player is say 50-100 feet from your preamp. It helps with hum.
Other than that it's superficial; it looks serious but practicality and sound quality aren't on a advanced level, unless*. It's the same with the Panny 9000 deluxe. But @ least the 9000 is much more affordable, without SACD, without DVD-Audio, but with 3D BR support.

* Fully balanced XLR connections in order to get superior sound needs to be all in, from the outputs to the inputs. The circuitry and the components used need to be properly implemented, seldom rare, unless very few Ultra high-end pro audio units (very expensive).

What we need is a professional review by a master audio/video reviewer with objective measurements. If ever I find one you can bet I will post it here.
Thank you for the info. So is it to go from the XLR connections on the player to speakers or something? The only experience I have ever had with XLR connections was setting up A/V for a meeting at a previous job where the speakers used XLR inputs. But if I recall right that was coming from something that definitely was NOT a disc player of any kind (memory is a little hazy, and I hated doing A/V as a whole, so I got involved in it as little as possible haha).
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This is all speculation, but my last Blu-ray player might be purchased in the year 2046 and it will be a 32K Blu-ray player model that replaces my year 2036 16K Blu-ray player model.
Which will still downscale to your 1080p display...
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Old 04-13-2023, 02:27 AM   #17
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I don't know. How can anybody say what their last player will be. I'm 52. I don't plan on leaving anytime soon. I'm guessing that my pretty new blu-ray player will need to be replaced at some point.
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Old 04-13-2023, 04:27 AM   #18
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I'm looking forward to a professional review with objective measurements (ASR or the like).
Yes 3 grands is a lot of money, and so is the built quality and premium parts and construction and universality, including 3D playback support (for AWOW 3D Blu-ray, whenever it comes), SACD.



Of course for roughly half price ($1,600) you can get its smaller brother, the UDP800.


And, if it is still too expensive for the videophiles and audiophiles members of this thread, the Panasonic 9000 is also a serious player well built for roughly $1,000
The reviews are excellent and the owners are happy people.
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Going lower the ladder is not part of why I started this thread.
There are plenty of players in the $150 to $500 range. We know them we use some of them.

It is fair game comparing with other players in that range, one to three thousand dollars, like the three mentioned above. And, if eBay is an optional source of shopping for you, you can certainly buy a used Oppo 205 in that high range. That would count too.

There's no doubt that the Magnetar UDP900 has what it takes to elevate it into the biggest tank of them all, in & out. It is the newest super tanker on the block and I bet you can land a plane on it. Figure of speech of course but you know what I mean; it is a mean machine, a battleship, a nuclear submarine, the largest cruiser, the biggest aircraft carrier of the seven navy seas ...



... The $13 Billion USS Gerald R. Ford Magneto 900
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This is all speculation, but my last Blu-ray player might be purchased in the year 2046 and it will be a 32K Blu-ray player model that replaces my year 2036 16K Blu-ray player model.
Wow, that's looking far into the future of Artificial Intelligence.
For me that would be gone with the wind; my ashes.
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Old 04-13-2023, 04:55 AM   #20
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Thank you for the info. So is it to go from the XLR connections on the player to speakers or something? The only experience I have ever had with XLR connections was setting up A/V for a meeting at a previous job where the speakers used XLR inputs. But if I recall right that was coming from something that definitely was NOT a disc player of any kind (memory is a little hazy, and I hated doing A/V as a whole, so I got involved in it as little as possible haha).
No, the balanced XLR stereo connectors are to be used with XLR stereo interconnects from this player to a high-end preamp or a flagship AV Receiver having the XLR stereo input jacks.
That's all, very simple. The largest advantage is when the player is separated by a long distance from the preamp, say 20 feet or more (roughly). It wil cut down the hum (noise) generally associated by long runs on unbalanced RCA interconnects.
That's about it; 99.999% of people are in no need of XLR balanced connectors.
And there is much more to it; like truly fully balanced from outputs to inputs (most audio components are NOT).

▪︎https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/blog/x...-a-difference/

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The main benefit of balanced cables is their ability to transfer sound signals over much longer runs/distances without signal loss, or interference.
▪︎https://www.cablematters.com/Blog/Au...-vs-rca-cables

* Some folks like the solid connection of XLR; but you can have a very solid and secure connection with RCA interconnect cables too, some having locking end connectors.
For short runs of less than six feet (2 meters), RCA jacks are just fine.
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