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Old 11-16-2023, 10:42 PM   #1
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Cool Where do I find a 24 inch LOW PING 3D monitor for Xmas 2023?

There's some good news and bad news.

The good news is I have a perfectly working 3D TV the Sony PlayStation 3D TV.

I also have a perfectly good low ping monitor a Lenovo 1 millisecond something.

The problem is I need both of them combined into one monitor in order to play 3D games well.

I called Best Buy. It turns out they don't have any low ping 3d monitors.

When I called yesterday they said they had exactly one model of 3D monitor a Dell something. But today they said they had none.

Also I don't like the theater technology of the Polar Systems because either the scale or the fact that the screen is polar throws off my eyes more than it does with a shutter based Sony PlayStation 3D TV. Yes The Hobbit Part 1 in 3D had underwhelming 3D, even though I did notice the 48 frames per second.

Any suggestions? I don't need 4k at a 24 inch scale. A new one would be preferable to previously owned. If my experience in the theater is lackluster, yet at home a hit, would Polar 3d be out of the picture?

Boy I wish some company would take on idea of a "depth charge" a device to turn a 2d tv into a 3d one using alternate frame timing. Like the Sega Master System did. (The patent already ran out on this device.). And with 3d haters willing to up the ante to prevent 3d from emerging, add on kits are the only viable business model.
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Old 11-17-2023, 01:54 AM   #2
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This was as good as it ever got for PCs. If you are lucky, you can track down the hardware, but it will cost you a lot of money to assemble a functional kit, as the glasses and emitter are going for hundreds and the monitors are likely pretty hard to come by at this point.

https://www.nvidia.com/content/newsl...asses-web.html
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Old 11-17-2023, 03:17 PM   #3
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Can it play Xbox 360 3D games on it, or is it "PC only"?

In other words. Can I plug in my own modern HDMI 3D appliance and get 3d from my 360?

BTW I understand I need a CRT TV to get Sega Master System games working right (which I do have).
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Old 11-18-2023, 01:11 PM   #4
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Can it play Xbox 360 3D games on it, or is it "PC only"?

In other words. Can I plug in my own modern HDMI 3D appliance and get 3d from my 360?

BTW I understand I need a CRT TV to get Sega Master System games working right (which I do have).
You can play 3D PC games and watch 3D content - via your PC - on those setups. 3D monitors were never really embraced and standardized by the industry, so Nvidia had to do their own thing and got a few monitors released under their own tech, while companies like Samsung did their own approach. Part of it was that companies wanted to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and force people into buying proprietary/branded tech that locked them into whatever system they invested in. At that time, HDMI was pretty much everywhere, but DVI-D was still the choice of the industry and not all monitors would take 3D content over HDMI.
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Old 11-18-2023, 03:54 PM   #5
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You can play 3D PC games and watch 3D content - via your PC - on those setups. 3D monitors were never really embraced and standardized by the industry, so Nvidia had to do their own thing and got a few monitors released under their own tech, while companies like Samsung did their own approach. Part of it was that companies wanted to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and force people into buying proprietary/branded tech that locked them into whatever system they invested in. At that time, HDMI was pretty much everywhere, but DVI-D was still the choice of the industry and not all monitors would take 3D content over HDMI.

So what you're saying is for console gaming, in 3D, the best you could do in terms of ping time is the PlayStation 3D TV.
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Old 11-18-2023, 04:52 PM   #6
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So what you're saying is for console gaming, in 3D, the best you could do in terms of ping time is the PlayStation 3D TV.
No. Without having a spec comparison table of all the 3D-capable gaming monitors released in the 2010's, I couldn't tell you what the best choice is. Ideally, you'd have a display that did use HDMI for 3D, but there's no guarantee such a display would have a high refresh rate for gaming or a decent panel, as few monitors back then were any good. At this time, those old 3D displays are very hard to find, so you're simply stuck with making the best of whatever you can get your hands on.
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Can it play Xbox 360 3D games on it, or is it "PC only"?

In other words. Can I plug in my own modern HDMI 3D appliance and get 3d from my 360?

BTW I understand I need a CRT TV to get Sega Master System games working right (which I do have).
I have an NVIDIA monitor that doesn't need any external VISION kit I can find the brand specs if you want?
I have a PS3 connected to it and can play blu rays and 3D PS3 titles just like you can on a PS3/4 & 3DTV I believe that if I had a PC with the ability to output 3D content It would also be fine.
I looked around and saw those monitors & kits(glasses) that were sold separately and the previous poster is right the cost now is likely prohibitive. My monitor is passive and although it came with a pair of glasses any passive glasses work I'm not sure this is the case with the glasses which come with the kits.
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Old 11-18-2023, 07:51 PM   #8
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I still have my Triples 24" - Viewsonic 120Hz & BenQ 144Hz

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Old 11-19-2023, 12:56 AM   #9
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I have an NVIDIA monitor that doesn't need any external VISION kit I can find the brand specs if you want?
I have a PS3 connected to it and can play blu rays and 3D PS3 titles just like you can on a PS3/4 & 3DTV I believe that if I had a PC with the ability to output 3D content It would also be fine.
I looked around and saw those monitors & kits(glasses) that were sold separately and the previous poster is right the cost now is likely prohibitive. My monitor is passive and although it came with a pair of glasses any passive glasses work I'm not sure this is the case with the glasses which come with the kits.
Well I read that for a 2011 A 3d monitor, the Playstation 3d TV had a then-unheard of 31 ms ping.

Unless you can at get it significantly below 31 ms, then the PS3dTV should be the best option.

That Viewsonic MIGHT BE a good option, depending on whether my 3d perception is radically altered by scale of a big screen far away or a small screen close by, or polar vs shutter.

Theater's 3d at best is underwheming and at worst gives double exposure causing 3d disodence.

The PS3DTV has 3D I can sit through a 2 hour movie easily without any faulty frames or any optic pain/confusion.

The time I first fell in love with 3d was when my friend vrought his Sega Master System to my 25 inch Sony Trinitron CRT.

I never seen a small scale Polar 3d or a 2 story shutter screen.

So I don't know whether it's an issue or scale or display tech.

For the record, a Nintendo 3DS has great 3d when it works, but has many World Trade Federation moments of 3d confusion. Take that data for what that's worth.

So if I'm a small scale guy then if the Viewsonic beats 31 ms of ping, I'll consider it. But if it's a polar vs shutter issue, then probably the PS3DTV is probably the quickest ping that will ever be achieved unless my dream device of a universal shutter 3D Add on kit is achieved and works with my Lenovo 1 ms TN screen.
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