The Stress of a New TV

[HDTV1080P]

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"In switching from a 7-year-old 55-inch LCD to a new 65-inch OLED TV, I’ve been awestruck by the transformation in picture quality. Yet, the upgrade has not been pain free."

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/stress-new-tv-1

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

QUOTE

"In switching from a 7-year-old 55-inch LCD to a new 65-inch OLED TV, I’ve been awestruck by the transformation in picture quality. Yet, the upgrade has not been pain free."

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/stress-new-tv-1

My VIZIO has a Bluetooth radio in it but I didn't actually get to start using it until over a year and a half after I got it when they released a firmware update.

[HDTV1080P]

The upgrades to new displays and TV’s would be pain free if consumer electronic companies would stop removing input/output jacks and features in order to save money. Sure new electronic equipment could have all or most the input/output jacks and features, but then consumers would start complaining that they have to pay a extra $200-$500+ for the TV. Removing features and jacks from the back of the TV is another way to hide inflation.

At the same time if 10 years or more has past since buying a new electronic device like a TV, then its perfectly normal that consumers will need to get use to some technology changes for the good and bad. Everything new that one purchases has both positives and negatives, and the goal is to try and make the positives 90% and the negatives 10% so the consumer will want to upgrade. Some people are forced to upgrade their TV after 10 to 20 years because they break and cannot be repaired anymore, other people upgrade their displays in 3 to 10 years for better picture quality performance, etc.

[meremortal]

It's been a good while since I've bought a new tv. Was in Best Buy earlier and most of the tvs hurt my eyes. Guessing the tvs are excessively set for with a higher brightness level for the colors to really pop in a well-lit store. But dang, I couldn't focus for more than a minute or two without my eyes about to water and a headache developing. I think I may actually prefer a softer picture.

[CompleteCount]

Originally Posted by meremortal

It's been a good while since I've bought a new tv. Was in Best Buy earlier and most of the tvs hurt my eyes. Guessing the tvs are excessively set for with a higher brightness for the colors to really pop in a bright store. But dang, I couldn't focus for more than a minute or two without my eyes about to water and a headache developing. I think I may actually prefer a softer picture.

It's a shame that Panasonic generally don't sell TVs in the US market, as they aim for a more natural look rather than searing retinas with brightness.

[teddyballgame]

Originally Posted by meremortal

It's been a good while since I've bought a new tv. Was in Best Buy earlier and most of the tvs hurt my eyes. Guessing the tvs are excessively set for with a higher brightness for the colors to really pop in a bright store. But dang, I couldn't focus for more than a minute or two without my eyes about to water and a headache developing. I think I may actually prefer a softer picture.

You are right about the in-store settings. It's all for pop and attention

Once you bring your TV home you can adjust the brightness and whitepoint to sane levels. Peak Luminance can be capped on HDR too if bright highlights bother your eyes.

Sony is introducing a "calm" picture mode this year. I haven't tried it yet but it's intended for night time comfort

You coming from Plasma by any chance?

[DavePS3]

Originally Posted by meremortal

It's been a good while since I've bought a new tv. Was in Best Buy earlier and most of the tvs hurt my eyes. Guessing the tvs are excessively set for with a higher brightness for the colors to really pop in a bright store. But dang, I couldn't focus for more than a minute or two without my eyes about to water and a headache developing. I think I may actually prefer a softer picture.

All TV's that are on display in any store are usually set on Dynamic or Vivid. That's the most color, highest brightness any panel can produce. They all have other presets in there you can switch to... Movie, Standard etc' etc'. The fact that you CAN take the panel higher is a good thing. You can pull it down and adjust how YOU like it. I have 14 different sources and I alter the parameters for each one because at their core, they're all different. You won't be using high contrast etc' for your cable TV channels but it comes in massively handy for streaming services which typically come though dimmer, less contrast etc'.

[meremortal]

Originally Posted by teddyballgame

You are right about the in-store settings. It's all for pop and attention

Once you bring your TV home you can adjust the brightness and whitepoint to sane levels. Peak Luminance can be capped on HDR too if bright highlights bother your eyes.

Sony is introducing a "calm" picture mode this year. I haven't tried it yet but it's intended for night time comfort

You coming from Plasma by any chance?

Probably the favorite tv I've had is a Samsung plasma from at least seven years ago. The store OLED settings were just too much. That pretty much went for all of them. I actually also even enjoy watching older crts. There's no doubt these newest gen tvs have that window-like transparency with 4k material. I also still watch a lot of sd material and so image processing/upscaling would be important. Sounds like Sony is pretty good in that regard, but I"be just started looking at tvs.

[NARMAK]

I had a Panasonic VT20 plasma TV before upgrading to my current 65" LG CX OLED. My personal feeling at the time was that i felt the plasma did handle motion better but also that it made 1080p content look as good as it could whereas any 1080p YouTube stuff didn't look as good but i primarily got the LG for the 4K to get me up to spec and HDR.

Although it's definitely been a worthy upgrade with the pitch blacks in particular bringing a constant smile to my face with dark scenes also popping more, the auto dimming of the OLED via ABL settings by LG are annoying as hell when they occur.

I also hoped the motion handling would have been like plasma but even better. Instead it's sample and hold style.

In terms of inputs, there's 3rd party workarounds if you really need an adapter and so on but what's much more annoying to me is how we have gone from TVs with a basic function to becoming a hub for manufacturers to use for advertising revenue

I abhorr this and if they wanted to do it, it should be a lot more obvious but highly unlikely they'll be doing it to discount your TV prices rather than generate additional income streams. The prices being lower generally are from the huge global competition of all the manufacturers.

In some ways, it feels like TVs are "cheaper" but the premium end is still pricey as hell, but more accessible which is good. Especially if you are able to buy a few years behind on quite a steep discount. However, i'm a 5+ year person on my TV. So i'll be waiting to about 2028 or 2030 to upgrade again. Unless i win the lottery

[Network23]

If i get a new tv it will be a oled or mini led. I was in interested when i saw that sharp mini led tv late last year from them being outa the game for a while now. Also I like the actually thickness, weight and build of the mini led sets(ive seen sony's at Best Buy) as opposed to let try to make a set as skinny as possible oled sets. For me its about contrast , brightness, motion clarity , color of couse, and dammit if you have 4 HDMI on the back of your set , they should ALL be 2.1 and not just 2 imputs. And Give Arc or Earc its own port so we dont have to share it.

[PissedOffPeoN]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

I had a Panasonic VT20 plasma TV before upgrading to my current 65" LG CX OLED. My personal feeling at the time was that i felt the plasma did handle motion better but also that it made 1080p content look as good as it could whereas any 1080p YouTube stuff didn't look as good but i primarily got the LG for the 4K to get me up to spec and HDR.

Although it's definitely been a worthy upgrade with the pitch blacks in particular bringing a constant smile to my face with dark scenes also popping more, the auto dimming of the OLED via ABL settings by LG are annoying as hell when they occur.

I also hoped the motion handling would have been like plasma but even better. Instead it's sample and hold style.

In terms of inputs, there's 3rd party workarounds if you really need an adapter and so on but what's much more annoying to me is how we have gone from TVs with a basic function to becoming a hub for manufacturers to use for advertising revenue

I abhorr this and if they wanted to do it, it should be a lot more obvious but highly unlikely they'll be doing it to discount your TV prices rather than generate additional income streams. The prices being lower generally are from the huge global competition of all the manufacturers.

In some ways, it feels like TVs are "cheaper" but the premium end is still pricey as hell, but more accessible which is good. Especially if you are able to buy a few years behind on quite a steep discount. However, i'm a 5+ year person on my TV. So i'll be waiting to about 2028 or 2030 to upgrade again. Unless i win the lottery

you can get a service remote from lg can disable the ABL like i did.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by PissedOffPeoN

you can get a service remote from lg can disable the ABL like i did.

I'd lose my 6 year guarantee that i got with the TV so that's not really an option for me. I do know it's available though.

[PissedOffPeoN]

Can't you just switch it back on when it has problems? .

[chip75]

Originally Posted by PissedOffPeoN

Can't you just switch it back on when it has problems? .

Not sure what's actually stored in the memory, it might log changes.

[Blu Lemmy]

Yeah, pretty sure changes are logged when in the service menu

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by PissedOffPeoN

Can't you just switch it back on when it has problems? .

Originally Posted by Blu Lemmy

Yeah, pretty sure changes are logged when in the service menu

Yeah, the logs are stored in the service menu and if they check, you're out of luck. Personally i am tempted to do it once the warranty ends but by then, i may end up looking to upgrade to a new TV soon after and pass it along. I wouldn't trust family full of regular joes not to use it in a way that avoids burn in, so may be better to keep it as it is.