Halloween (2006) : Rob, stop making movies.

[jjbsn5192]

Originally Posted by DaleDark

I wasn't gonna weigh in on this, but some of these post made my head hurt, so here it goes...

First, I'm a horror fan, and slasher films are my weakness (like sex, even when its bad, its still pretty good). That said, I'm sick to death of the horror remake.

Now, when I see the word MOVIES used in these posts (i.e. RZ's Halloween MOVIES are way better, or the original MOVIES are better....), I can't help but chuckle. Save for the the original Halloween (which, while everyone is certainly entitled to there opinions, is widely considered a classic), arguing over which is better is kinda like arguing who's the smartest person between a group of ppl w/ single digit IQs, no matter who wins, they're all morons. Now, I love slasher movies, but I'd hardly call them good. I view them in the same way others can sit through summer action movies, they're dumb fun. So when I see post arguing about how this or that is stupid/doesn't make sense/etc., etc., it's truly maddening.

Now, should RZ keep making films? Well, by my avatar, I'm sure you can guess where I come down on this. I'll say this, yes he should, but he definitely lost some of his mojo since The Devil's Rejects, and he really needs to stop putting Sheri Moon Zombie in everything he makes (if he had scrapped the 30 mins or so in H2 that she's in, I think it would have been a better film).

Lastly, while I liked the TCM remake, the best remake tag belongs to Dawn of The Dead (but niether are better than the originals, and I've yet to meet anyone born before 1985 who disagrees).

Devils Rejects was like the Key Lime Pie, that we needed to save the horror films.. back then.

a masterpiece

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by DaleDark

I wasn't gonna weigh in on this, but some of these post made my head hurt, so here it goes...

First, I'm a horror fan, and slasher films are my weakness (like sex, even when its bad, its still pretty good). That said, I'm sick to death of the horror remake.

Now, when I see the word MOVIES used in these posts (i.e. RZ's Halloween MOVIES are way better, or the original MOVIES are better....), I can't help but chuckle. Save for the the original Halloween (which, while everyone is certainly entitled to there opinions, is widely considered a classic), arguing over which is better is kinda like arguing who's the smartest person between a group of ppl w/ single digit IQs, no matter who wins, they're all morons. Now, I love slasher movies, but I'd hardly call them good. I view them in the same way others can sit through summer action movies, they're dumb fun. So when I see post arguing about how this or that is stupid/doesn't make sense/etc., etc., it's truly maddening.

Now, should RZ keep making films? Well, by my avatar, I'm sure you can guess where I come down on this. I'll say this, yes he should, but he definitely lost some of his mojo since The Devil's Rejects, and he really needs to stop putting Sheri Moon Zombie in everything he makes (if he had scrapped the 30 mins or so in H2 that she's in, I think it would have been a better film).

Lastly, while I liked the TCM remake, the best remake tag belongs to Dawn of The Dead (but niether are better than the originals, and I've yet to meet anyone born before 1985 who disagrees).

Well... meet your first then lol... i think the TCM remake is better than the original...i dont think the original has aged very well but ill watch it again as its been a while...

also, i must say... im by no means a big Halloween fan...the original was pretty boring in my opinion and had minimal suspense without the use of Carpenters music... take the music out of that movie and its pretty terrible imo

[Fredluos]

Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Fredluos

Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.

I haven’t either and would rather go to the dentist than watch garbage like this. Why does everyone that does music assume they’ll be good at movies and vice versa? I can’t stand cross industry people since they usually suck at one or the other. Hell, Rob Zombie was annoying as a musician too, if you can even call him that. Cmon.

[Zombo]

House of 1000 Corpses - I rewatch it frequently, especially the opening gas station sequence. The thing he missed out on the most was exploring the Dr. Satan aspect and underworld more.

The Devil's Rejects - Great film, but leaving out Dr. Satan and the gas station attraction at the beginning were huge misses and kind of disconnected it from the first film for me.

3 From Hell - Eh, could do without this one although it does have its moments. Losing Sid Haig kind of ruined the third film.

Halloween - I think this film is brutal and I enjoyed it. The only thing I didn't like was the prison rape scene, but I despise any rape scene in any film.

Halloween II - Did not enjoy this one. The only sequence I did enjoy was the Halloween party/concert.

Lords of Salem - Enjoyed this, eerie feeling like the first Rosmary's Baby film, just missed a bit on the creature at the end. The music, witches, atmosphere...all great.

The Munsters - I enjoyed this one, but I understand what he was going for. Basically a 70's early 80's Halloween made for tv special. His little acting troupe has always been lacking, but so was the acting in the old Halloween tv specials that we all loved as kids.

31 - I enjoyed this one more than I thought I would; however, the rape stuff will always piss me off.


Overall, his films are about 60 good/40 bad with me. He has touched on something great several times, but tends to miss the mark by the end of the film. A lot of missed opportunities. My biggest knock on Zombie is that the rape stuff is appalling.

[Blu Myers]

Originally Posted by Fredluos

Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.

Easy answer. Rob was a bankable director at the time. That movie made $60M off of him, and held the highest opening Labor Day weekend until just recently. I don't really like the movie, but there it is.

[Mikezilla3k]

Originally Posted by Fredluos

Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.

THanks for resurrecting a thread for your insightful *****ing.

[spaceball-one]

RZH2 is one of my favourite of the franchise.

Also, a big wet fart at people who s*** on movies they haven't even SEEN.

[Mikezilla3k]

Originally Posted by spaceball-one

RZH2 is one of my favourite of the franchise.

Dare I say it, but it's the best of the entire franchise. And that includes the original.

[BladeRunner2007]

RZH2 is a masterpiece in my book. My 2nd favorite Halloween movie ever.

[stvn1974]

Halloween 1978
Rob Zombie's Halloween 2
Rob Zombie's Halloween
Halloween III Season Of The Witch

I like the other sequels with the exception of the latest trilogy. Those make Mickey cry and want to have sex with his neice.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

THanks for resurrecting a thread for your insightful *****ing.

Exactly! I haven’t seen it. But it sucks! Really insightful, well thought out post.

Personally, I would take RZ H2 director’s cut over 4,5,6,H20 and Resurrection.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

Dare I say it, but it's the best of the entire franchise. And that includes the original.

Would never put it above the original, that stands alone to me. However, I’m happy to have RZ’s versions in my collection.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I haven’t either and would rather go to the dentist than watch garbage like this. Why does everyone that does music assume they’ll be good at movies and vice versa? I can’t stand cross industry people since they usually suck at one or the other. Hell, Rob Zombie was annoying as a musician too, if you can even call him that. Cmon.

You know it’s garbage despite not seeing it? Come on, be better than that.

[BladeRunner2007]

Zombie might be a bad writer with terrible cliche white trash dialog (I still dig it lol) but he is a very talented director with a great visual style. His Halloween films are very well made on a technical level.

[HipsterTrash]

Rob, please keep making movies.

[spaceball-one]

I still hope Rob gets to make his Philadelphia Flyers movie one day. I was psyched when he was talking about that.

[HipsterTrash]

Originally Posted by spaceball-one

I still hope Rob gets to make his Philadelphia Flyers movie one day. I was psyched when he was talking about that.

That and his Raised Eyebrows adaptation I hope still happen. I won't hold my breath though.

I'm sure he'll do something more original like T Rex.

[50strat54]

I thought his unrated II was very good.

[Michael1989]

It wasn't a terrible film.