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Old 04-01-2024, 11:41 AM   #41
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Men wear makeup?
Anyone put in front of a camera, at the very least, will get a layer of something that'll reduce the amount of sheen gleaming off their foreheads because of the added lights in production. Unless, of course, they are intending to show their glistening pores (such as Dwayne Johnson in an action scene).

"Makeup" was also a generic term for everything transformative to their appearance though, such as hair coloring. No, Tom's natural hair color isn't the luscious dark brown anymore that you see in Top Gun: Maverick.
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Relevant, from a 2001 review of What's the Worst That Could Happen?:
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Ejogo's ardor is even more baffling given [Martin] Lawrence's extremely fishy close-ups. In many shots -- though, tellingly, not in all of them -- his face is so smooth and gleaming, it appears that he's been worked over by a team of computer artists. Apparently, stretching gauze across the lens isn't enough these days.
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The funny thing is, 'ugly' faces are far more interesting to watch on screen. The more lines on your face the more characterful you look. That smooth shiny shit makes you look like a moron.
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James Mason refused to wear make-up. What with him being a man.
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In movies and television? Of course they do. No one looks as good as they do in movies without some assistance from the makeup crew and cinematographer.
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Anyone put in front of a camera, at the very least, will get a layer of something that'll reduce the amount of sheen gleaming off their foreheads because of the added lights in production. Unless, of course, they are intending to show their glistening pores (such as Dwayne Johnson in an action scene).

"Makeup" was also a generic term for everything transformative to their appearance though, such as hair coloring. No, Tom's natural hair color isn't the luscious dark brown anymore that you see in Top Gun: Maverick.
Same applies to the Oscars, red carpet events in general, and press tours.

Do people think this is Ryan Gosling’s natural complexion and that he’s not wearing any makeup here?


(Random example since I was just watching this)
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It's a known fact that Margot Robbie resembles Steve Buscemi without all of the filtering.
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Old 04-02-2024, 01:33 AM   #47
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It's a known fact that Margot Robbie resembles Steve Buscemi without all of the filtering.
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It's a known fact that Margot Robbie resembles Steve Buscemi without all of the filtering.
How do you do, fellow kens?
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"stage makeup" isn't much talked about on men, but to be frank, the complexion of Caucasian people with the huge flood of lighting rigs they shoot under and so on needed new makeup techniques where they can make it look "natural" enough to go unnoticed and without being overly distracting.

Personally i find men though have less aggressive "filter" applied in post processing than female leads and particularly those that are older and make it part and parcel of their contracts. In Korean and East Asian dramas, it leaked i believe that it was a mandated part of the contract for a particular actress.

Also, the majority of Hollywood leading men and women are chosen usually as being a touch above average and photogenic. There's a reason the phrase "you look better in person" was made up. Not just because people majority of the time don't know their angles or access to multiple lens distance/focus understanding.
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People are talking as if this is a new thing.

Airbrushing for still photography/magazines/posters has been done for decades.

Soft filters were often used for stars in TV and movies. As a fan of Space:1999 from 1975, I always find it amusing to see Barbara Bain always shot with soft-focus filters for almost every shot she appears in. Martin Landau tended to like one side of his face facing the camera more than the other. Actors have always been vain. That's partly understandable, as skin isn't perfect, and especially in 4k, every blemish and imperfection comes through, especially in close-ups.

Now it's just cgi that applies the filter instead of using a physical soft focus filter.

People like to blame cgi for every movie sin these days, but this is a case where cgi should not be blamed. People are for sure more vain than ever, especially when talking about Youtube/social media "influencers". But seeing filtering done for the big or even small screen is nothing new.

As for makeup, it's common for men to have makeup in film and TV, again, to hide blemishes and bring out or hide certain tones or features, and to deal with harsh lighting.
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People are talking as if this is a new thing.

Airbrushing for still photography/magazines/posters has been done for decades.

Soft filters were often used for stars in TV and movies. As a fan of Space:1999 from 1975, I always find it amusing to see Barbara Bain always shot with soft-focus filters for almost every shot she appears in. Martin Landau tended to like one side of his face facing the camera more than the other. Actors have always been vain. That's partly understandable, as skin isn't perfect, and especially in 4k, every blemish and imperfection comes through, especially in close-ups.

Now it's just cgi that applies the filter instead of using a physical soft focus filter.

People like to blame cgi for every movie sin these days, but this is a case where cgi should not be blamed. People are for sure more vain than ever, especially when talking about Youtube/social media "influencers". But seeing filtering done for the big or even small screen is nothing new.

As for makeup, it's common for men to have makeup in film and TV, again, to hide blemishes and bring out or hide certain tones or features, and to deal with harsh lighting.
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I'm not sure if Barbara Bain always insisted on being shot in soft-focus on all her productions or if it was just a Space:1999 thing with her, but she always had that soft haze around her in that series, especially noticeable when cutting to the next shot and everyone else is in crisp focus. Anyways, I loved them both in Space:1999. I need to watch Mission Impossible since I've never seen the original series.

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I'm not sure if Barbara Bain always insisted on being shot in soft-focus on all her productions or if it was just a Space:1999 thing with her, but she always had that soft haze around her in that series, especially noticeable when cutting to the next shot and everyone else is in crisp focus. Anyways, I loved them both in Space:1999. I need to watch Mission Impossible since I've never seen the original series.
Yeah I think they would do this to Joan Collins when she was on Batman '66.
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Yeah I think they would do this to Joan Collins when she was on Batman '66.
I'm sure Joan would have had her team from makeup to those who knew how she'd like to be shot. It was pretty common. Still is.
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Men wear makeup?
Was this a serious question? I can't tell if you're trolling or extremely naive.

Everyone in front of the camera will have their skin touched up with make up to look as flawless as possible, regardless of gender. Common knowledge. But for fun, here's the man in your profile photo wearing make up to the Golden Globes



https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/fashio...globes-make-up

And his thoughts on the men of music group BTS wearing make up

Elgort has notably spent time with members of BTS. He's just as mesmerized with their stunning smoky eye looks and bright hair colors as Allure editors are. "I love how fearlessly they are styled," he says. "I love the makeup they wear and their hairstyles — it’s cool and different." He has a theory that people in America are getting so excited about K-pop based on these beauty facets alone. "Their style choices are more exciting and out-there than what we’re seeing here," he adds.

https://www.allure.com/story/ansel-e...polo-interview

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Yeah I think they would do this to Joan Collins when she was on Batman '66.
Funny enough, she was in an episode of Space:1999 (a darned good episode, too) and yeah, Joan Collins definitely had the soft focus going on in that episode.
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