Wagner: Tannhäuser (Solti, 1971) 5.1 Blu-ray Audio - Blu-ray Forum

McCrutchy · 07-17-2018, 08:25 PM

In August 2018, Decca / Universal Music will bring Sir Georg Solti's recording of Wagner's Tannhäuser (1971) to Blu-ray Audio with a 5.1 mix from the Quadraphonic tapes.

bigshot · 07-17-2018, 09:21 PM

That one is very interesting. Haven't had a chance to check out the Bernstein Tristan yet.

bigshot · 08-19-2018, 06:08 PM

I listened to this a bit yesterday, and I'm not totally convinced about the sound quality. It sounds better in some ways, but it appears that the number of channels on the master was a limiting factor. Huge chunks of the orchestra feel disembodied from other chunks. The violins are unfocused and recessed but the horns and woodwinds are forward and separate in the middle. It doesn't sound much like a real orchestra. High frequencies are a bit rolled off, and for some reason parts of the orchestra seem like they have more of a rolloff than others. It sounds jury rigged- not nearly as good sounding as typical multichannel recordings today. It is a very old recording. I guess that's to be expected.

McCrutchy · 12-26-2018, 04:23 AM

BDInfo scan:

Note that for whatever reason, the stereo and 5.1 remixes have not been encoded together, but in separate playlists.

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DISC INFO:

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Disc Size:      26,011,357,037 bytes
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     TANNHAUSER
Disc Size:      26,011,357,037 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
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McCrutchy · 05-30-2024, 10:13 PM

Universal Music Japan will re-release this recording in Japan on 31 July 2024 as a 2xSHM-SACD set using a new 2024 remaster:

Quote:

[Show spoiler]

Product Introduction
Decca 95th Anniversary

[2SA-CD~SHM Specifications][Single Layer][Green Color Label Coat]

The first SA-CD single layer version of Wagner's opera Tannhäuser by Solti and the Vienna Philharmonic, who set a milestone in recording history with Der Ring des Nibelungen. You can also enjoy the singing of the unrivaled Wagner tenor [Kollo].

DSD master produced in 2024 by Classic Sound in the UK from the original master.

Lyrics translation not included.

René Kollo (tenor: Tannhäuser), Helga Dörnesch (soprano: Elisabeth), Christa Ludwig (mezzo-soprano: Venus), Victor Braun (baritone: Wolfram), Manfred Jungwirth (bass: Bettelorf), Hans Sotin (bass: Hermann I), Kurt Eckwirth (tenor: Heinrich), Norman Bailey (bass-baritone: Reinmar), and others.

Note that it is not listed as a Japanese exclusive, so it may come out internationally, but that would likely be as a 3xHybrid SACD. SHM-SACDs are single-layer SACDs which do not have a redbook CD layer and require an SACD player for playback.

https://www.universal-music.co.jp/si...cts/ucgd-9108/

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0D53NC312

Unfortunately, Amazon.co.jp is blocking international pre-orders. You could pre-order from CDJapan here:

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UCGD-9108

bigshot · 06-01-2024, 06:21 AM

Don’t I already have this in 5.1? I remember it being underwhelming.

07-17-2018, 08:25 PM	#1
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1263 Blu-ray collection:6773 DVD collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	Wagner: Tannhäuser (Solti, 1971) 5.1 Blu-ray Audio In August 2018, Decca / Universal Music will bring Sir Georg Solti's recording of Wagner's *Tannhäuser* (1971) to Blu-ray Audio with a 5.1 mix from the Quadraphonic tapes.

07-17-2018, 09:21 PM	#2
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	That one is very interesting. Haven't had a chance to check out the Bernstein Tristan yet.

08-19-2018, 06:08 PM	#3
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	I listened to this a bit yesterday, and I'm not totally convinced about the sound quality. It sounds better in some ways, but it appears that the number of channels on the master was a limiting factor. Huge chunks of the orchestra feel disembodied from other chunks. The violins are unfocused and recessed but the horns and woodwinds are forward and separate in the middle. It doesn't sound much like a real orchestra. High frequencies are a bit rolled off, and for some reason parts of the orchestra seem like they have more of a rolloff than others. It sounds jury rigged- not nearly as good sounding as typical multichannel recordings today. It is a very old recording. I guess that's to be expected.

06-01-2024, 06:21 AM	#6
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	Don’t I already have this in 5.1? I remember it being underwhelming.

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