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Old 01-05-2025, 09:15 PM   #1
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Wait until they see Dune messiah and they'll learn he's not a hero.

He's not Neo or Luke Skywalker! he's also not a god superhero who can crack the ground with his voice and make it rain on Arrakis (water is poisonous to sandworms as it would destroy the spice and bring doom to the galaxy).

It's like the same people who think Tyler Durden in Fight Club is a hero.
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This couldn't have gone into one of the other Dune threads??
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Old 01-05-2025, 09:39 PM   #3
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Yeah, Paul's morels are questionable in Messiah and... not gonna spoil it for those who don't read the books, but yeaaaaahhh... anyway.
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Wait until they see Dune messiah and they'll learn he's not a hero.

He's not Neo or Luke Skywalker! he's also not a god superhero who can crack the ground with his voice and make it rain on Arrakis (water is poisonous to sandworms as it would destroy the spice and bring doom to the galaxy).

It's like the same people who think Tyler Durden in Fight Club is a hero.
Next you are going to tell us there are quite a lot of stupid people out there.
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Lots of people think that Homelander is a good guy. Too much surface thinking goes on in popular culture.
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Nobody in The Boys is a good guy.
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The Dune Threads must flow.
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Old 01-05-2025, 11:53 PM   #8
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Dune is the new Star Wars!

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Fun Fact: One of the Dune books makes fun of Star Wars in a meta way.
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Fun Fact: One of the Dune books makes fun of Star Wars in a meta way.
Fun fact: Star Wars made fun of Dune in a meta way.

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Hot take, but "Paul is the bad guy" only really works when you read Messiah.

If you just read or watch Dune, it mainly just portrays him as the good guy through and through. The whole thing about him turning bad was only when Frank decided to make sequels.
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Dune is the new Star Wars!
I don't understand why anybody cares how many threads there are.
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I don't understand why anybody cares how many threads there are.
It's just unnecessary clutter. Right now if you want to talk about the 4th book in the Dune series do you post..



Here?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=382020

Or here?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=381842

Or here?
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Old 01-06-2025, 01:25 AM   #15
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God Emperor of Dune is it's own thing, though. Like, that and Children of Dune are like over 3000 years apart. They are their own stories.
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Hot take, but "Paul is the bad guy" only really works when you read Messiah.

If you just read or watch Dune, it mainly just portrays him as the good guy through and through. The whole thing about him turning bad was only when Frank decided to make sequels.
No.

He was a false prophet from the outset. When Herbert saw some people didn’t get it, he wrote Messiah to hammer home that fact. But it’s all there in the first novel.
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Some fans expect that Messiah won't be that good cause of Paul's rouge nature in it. Not to mention how his arc ends in Children of Dune. Messiah is not the real final, but will probably play off that way for fans of the films. Either way, fans of the films that don't read the books, you may not be happy how everything ends for Paul.
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It's just unnecessary clutter. Right now if you want to talk about the 4th book in the Dune series do you post..



Here?
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Or here?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=381842

Or here?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=382019

Wherever it is best suited. The flip side is having a bunch of conversations that have nothing to do with each other except the movie title. This will quickly subside and fall down the list. Problem solved. Is there a God Emporer of Dune thread? Go there. It's really easy.
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Edgy stuff!
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