Jurassic Park Trilogy 4K Steelbook (US)

[Bobafett345]

Originally Posted by jess1581

One must assume

And I'll stop you right there, because your entire premise and everything that followed is based on assumptions.

Information encoded to the disc isn't a "strange result." It's not like it's a random shot of some code, or that rip somehow pulled that message from the ether.

The questions should be "why is the message hidden unless you rip the movie from the disc?" and "what changes, if any are there to the movie?"

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Bobafett345

And I'll stop you right there, because your entire premise and everything that followed is based on assumptions.

Information encoded to the disc isn't a "strange result." It's not like it's a random shot of some code, or that rip somehow pulled that message from the ether.

The questions should be "why is the message hidden unless you rip the movie from the disc?" and "what changes, if any are there to the movie?"

And instead of taking the word of folks who own it and watched it, you're gonna lean toward the one dude who all he had was a screenshot that coulda came from anywhere. I dunno how or why it showed up if it did at all, but I'm telling you right now, it's not supposed to be there and there isn't any kind of hidden easter egg or super special extended cut for good lil boys named Denton.

It's a screw up for sure and it's HIS issue, not the release in general.

[Bobafett345]

Originally Posted by jess1581

And instead of taking the word of folks who own it and watched it, you're gonna lean toward the one dude who all he had was a screenshot that coulda came from anywhere. I dunno how or why it showed up if it did at all, but I'm telling you right now, it's not supposed to be there and there isn't any kind of hidden easter egg or super special extended cut for good lil boys named Denton.

It's a screw up for sure and it's HIS issue, not the release in general.

It's already established the how and why it showed up. But you spent more time trying to get cheap jabs in instead of reading what was posted: Only one person actually ripped it. And instead of doing it yourself and confirming or denying the results, you decided to make a post based on assumptions.

So, rip it and honestly tell everyone if the message shows up or not.

In the time it took you to post all these insults, you could have ripped the movie and confirmed whether or not it was there. I'd question whether you'd be honest about it at this point, but we'll cross that bridge later. And if "it's not supposed to be there" I'll need a source.

Edit: I'd be curious what anyone else's results are from ripping this as well.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by d3nt0n

That message is on the disc, I noticed it after ripping it. Interesting that it doesn't show up under normal use.
I wonder why it's there? And only on TLW and not the other 2.

Denton, since you ensnared this clown, you can at least level with him.

[Bobafett345]

So, you ripped it and it was there or it wasn't.

Care to share?

...or you didn't bother even trying to rip it.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Bobafett345

So, you ripped it and it was there or it wasn't.

Care to share?

...or you didn't bother even trying to rip it.

I don't rip discs, nor do I need to in order to KNOW that there is no alternate cut of the film on disc or otherwise.

If you still want to conspire and go head hunting for this magic cut of TLW, then go right ahead. Buy it, figure it out for yourself.

[PoLskA]

there is zero need for this nonsense argument... The Lost World has 1 cut and 1 cut only on physical media...

[Bobafett345]

Originally Posted by jess1581

I don't rip discs, nor do I need to in order to KNOW that there is no alternate cut of the film on disc or otherwise.

If you still want to conspire and go head hunting for this magic cut of TLW, then go right ahead. Buy it, figure it out for yourself.

So, between the choice of easily verify if the information is accurate and more insults and trolling...you went with the latter.

The only one who seems to think there's "magic" and "conspiracies" here is you.

Originally Posted by PoLskA

there is zero need for this nonsense argument... The Lost World has 1 cut and 1 cut only on physical media...

Then what happened when you ripped your copy? Message there, or not?

[d3nt0n]

Damn, I just thought it was a strange thing to see and figured I'd get others take on it. Didn't mean for this to happen.

There is a very high chance it is only there as some sort of authoring error. Also it could be for a bonus feature, but I don't even know which one it would make sense for. Or maybe Universal intentionally wanted dumb arguments on the bd forums to happen.

All I can say for sure is that there is only 1 version of the film on the disc, that message is present in the files of the disc, and it doesn't show up organically while playing the movie.

[PoLskA]

Originally Posted by Bobafett345

Then what happened when you ripped your copy? Message there, or not?

you always insist on dying on some hill for no apparent reason...

please show me proof where there is an alternative cut of The Lost World...

there would have been word of an alt cut/remastered cut because you don't just add deleted/alternative scenes into your 4K scan... do you know how jarring that would look?

[Bobafett345]

Originally Posted by PoLskA

you always insist on dying on some hill for no apparent reason...

Crazy is refusing to rip your disc and get the very proof you're asking for.

Originally Posted by d3nt0n

Damn, I just thought it was a strange thing to see and figured I'd get others take on it. Didn't mean for this to happen.

There is a very high chance it is only there as some sort of authoring error. Also it could be for a bonus feature, but I don't even know which one it would make sense for. Or maybe Universal intentionally wanted dumb arguments on the bd forums to happen.

All I can say for sure is that there is only 1 version of the film on the disc, that message is present in the files of the disc, and it doesn't show up organically while playing the movie.

You shouldn't have to apologize posting something interesting you found to start a rational discussion. That's what the forums are for.

It's ok. It's an interesting find, and in a normal discussion people would be talking about what changes, if any were made to the movie and why it takes ripping the disc to reveal the message.

[jess1581]

Lol OK, people with common sense and a casual interest in cinema and physical media wouldn't even spark the discussion.

[Bobafett345]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Lol OK, people with common sense and a casual interest in cinema and physical media wouldn't even spark the discussion.

People discuss interesting finds with their purchases all the time here.

Why that bothers you so much is beyond me.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Bobafett345

People discuss interesting finds with their purchases all the time here.

Why that bothers you so much is beyond me.

What bothered me was that despite numerous attempts to burst your bubble, you insisted on a silly notion that you presumed instead of coming to the more sensible conclusion that it was an authoring error. Being obtuse is not a quality to have in any discussion, especially one that should never have been anyway.

[PoLskA]

Originally Posted by Bobafett345

Crazy is refusing to rip your disc and get the very proof you're asking for.

i'm not asking for any proof... because i know TLW has one cut on physical media...
secondly, i have the previous 4K disc ripped... and guess what? no super secret cut on the disc...

[kruse56]

Not to continue this discussion, but what exactly is "ripping"?

[PoLskA]

Originally Posted by kruse56

Not to continue this discussion, but what exactly is "ripping"?

using a blu-ray drive to 'rip' or copy the movie onto a hard drive and watch using VLC or something like Plex

[Bobafett345]

Originally Posted by PoLskA

i'm not asking for any proof... because i know TLW has one cut on physical media...

Originally Posted by PoLskA

please show me proof where there is an alternative cut of The Lost World...

It's not even like there's a long chain of discussion where you might have forgot you asked for proof. You changed your story in the space of a single reply.

Originally Posted by PoLskA

secondly, i have the previous 4K disc ripped... and guess what? no super secret cut on the disc...

And if we were discussing the previous disc, that might mean something.

When you rip the one we're currently discussing and come back with whether or not the "modifed" message is there, then that will mean something.

Originally Posted by jess1581

What bothered me was that despite numerous attempts to burst your bubble, you insisted on a silly notion that you presumed instead of coming to the more sensible conclusion that it was an authoring error. Being obtuse is not a quality to have in any discussion, especially one that should never have been anyway.

Maybe lead with something more substantive like "it's an authoring error" next time instead of trolling, insults, and a position based on assumptions for most of the discussion.

That would have been sensible.

But even in your reply you can't have a sensible discussion and keep to the same tired insults and trolling you started with.

If it's an authoring error, the issue would seem to be that the disc skips playing the "modified from original version" message it was encoded with.

[kruse56]

Originally Posted by PoLskA

using a blu-ray drive to 'rip' or copy the movie onto a hard drive and watch using VLC or something like Plex

Ah, understood. Then, presumably, the studios frown on the copying of their property, and it is possible that such an act might violate copyright law. Maybe that explains why the message only appears during that process.

[Bobafett345]

Originally Posted by kruse56

Ah, understood. Then, presumably, the studios frown on the copying of their property, and it is possible that such an act might violate copyright law. Maybe that explains why the message only appears during that process.

Standard "not a lawyer" disclaimer here.

Depending on your locale, you are allowed to make yourself a backup copy for yourself so long as you own a copy you purchased legitimately.

And there's people who make clips for "fair market use" (also depending on your locale), etc.

It's a good point that there could be new anti piracy stuff getting baked in, but this would be a pretty tame one, honestly.