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Old 09-24-2007, 01:37 AM   #1
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Default Is there a tv that supports 2.35/2.40:1 on the way??

has anyone heard if there is a tv that supports 2.35.1/ 2.40.1 on the way? Im getting tired of the black lines.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:45 AM   #2
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Nope. The 16x9 shape is used because those are the specs for HD. Besides, have you considered that if you DID have such a set, all of your 1.78 and 1.85 films would have black on the sides? They certainly would. There are projection screens that are 2.39 and 2.40 but again, the other two main formats give you bars on the sides. You'd also get bars on the side from HD broadcasts if you had such a set. You can probably just zoom everything you have now in 2.39 or 2.40. Not to mention all the other aspectratios... ther's a total of 15 different ratios in film.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:58 AM   #3
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well that blows.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:58 AM   #4
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Is it like a rule or something that whenever anyone joins, their first 50 posts must include one *****ing about grain, and another *****ing about letterboxing.

<sigh>

There is a thread, which discusses a constant height projector (at least that is what I think it is called). If you MUST get rid of letterboxing, this is the only way you will do it, just be prepared to get out your check book.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:03 AM   #5
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I guess I should be banned for breaking the rule .. I failed to complain about either of those in my first 50 posts.

On topic.. personally I'd prefer constant width, that's what projectors normally are right?
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Not on a real movie theater.
Constant height. And the curtains widen with the format.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:43 AM   #7
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Actually the big ones here seem to do it both ways... they close up horizontally to display the 4:3 pre-movie advertising DVD, but then they open all the way up that way and adjust vertically to the format.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:06 AM   #8
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The 4:3 pre advertising DVD?

maybe you mean they close the 2.40 wide screen curtains for the 1.85 trailers and advertising?
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:13 AM   #9
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To me, hiding bars with curtains is like setting your clock fast so you wont be late... Who do you plan on fooling??? Are you hoping you'll suddenly have short term memory loss? In the dark, are black bars any less black than curtains if you've calibrated your display device properly? PLus all that cash to hide something you know is there anyway? Man, some people... I dunno... Makes me laugh.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:18 AM   #10
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Yes, this topic has definately ran its course way too long...LOL. I have no problem with letterboxing. I don't see what the big deal is...seriously.
Even if i'm not watching a movie in the dark I rarely notice it. Most movies I watch are in the dark anyways, so I don't notice any bars.
When watching TV with 4:3 I always stretch the picture (so the screen can age evenly) but letterboxing does not bother me at all. Maybe cause my TV is black also, so it takes away from the obviousness<--(if that's a word) of the bars dunno!
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:23 AM   #11
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Unfortunately when it comes to aspect ratios, you can't please everyone. We all have our preferences.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:33 AM   #12
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Learn to love the letterboxing, or else go buy an old square tube tv and full screen dvds
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:42 AM   #13
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Nope. The 16x9 shape is used because those are the specs for HD. Besides, have you considered that if you DID have such a set, all of your 1.78 and 1.85 films would have black on the sides? They certainly would. There are projection screens that are 2.39 and 2.40 but again, the other two main formats give you bars on the sides. You'd also get bars on the side from HD broadcasts if you had such a set. You can probably just zoom everything you have now in 2.39 or 2.40. Not to mention all the other aspectratios... ther's a total of 15 different ratios in film.
Now I know what we need. A 2.40 ratio TV with curtains on both sides to be used for 1.33/1.78/1.85 material!

I even came up with a advertising slogan: "A real theater-like experience, complete with the curtains."

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Old 09-24-2007, 08:45 AM   #14
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why cant all movies be anamorphic widescreen where if you want it in full screen then just set your dvd or blu-ray player so that the movies will come out in full screen or if you want it in widescreen then just leave it alone? and also i hate the movies in widescreen that have the tiny screen and most of your tv has the black lines doesnt that defeat the whole purpose for getting a big screen tv?
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:31 AM   #15
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Now I know what we need. A 2.40 ratio TV with curtains on both sides to be used for 1.33/1.78/1.85 material!

I even came up with a advertising slogan: "A real theater-like experience, complete with the curtains."

enjoy
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:33 AM   #16
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...When watching TV with 4:3 I always stretch the picture (so the screen can age evenly)...
I hate it when the cute News moderatress appears to be so fat because the image is stretched
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:40 AM   #17
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why cant all movies be anamorphic widescreen where if you want it in full screen then just set your dvd or blu-ray player so that the movies will come out in full screen or if you want it in widescreen then just leave it alone? and also i hate the movies in widescreen that have the tiny screen and most of your tv has the black lines doesnt that defeat the whole purpose for getting a big screen tv?
You do realize it´s the tv that has the 'wrong' aspect ratio and not the film?

From what i´ve seen of CEDIA coverage this year, projectors with anamorphic lenses (or at least pjs with the stretch option to use one build in) have been quite numerous. So maybe there is going to be a small trend, but i don´t think this will be mainstream anytime soon. 2.4:1 tvs would be a good thing imho, maybe they will come in a few years.

Untill then for all the "full screen" lovers, the zoom option of your tv is your friend
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The 4:3 pre advertising DVD?

maybe you mean they close the 2.40 wide screen curtains for the 1.85 trailers and advertising?
Nope... this is pre-advertising

They tell you to go buy popcorn etc, trivia questions about movies that are out now as well as popular actors etc... I know it's a DVD because when they start it we see the blue Panasonic DVD background screen. I suppose it could be a Video-CD though.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:46 AM   #19
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why cant all movies be anamorphic widescreen where if you want it in full screen then just set your dvd or blu-ray player so that the movies will come out in full screen or if you want it in widescreen then just leave it alone? and also i hate the movies in widescreen that have the tiny screen and most of your tv has the black lines doesnt that defeat the whole purpose for getting a big screen tv?
No, watching movies in a format other than the director envisioned it SHOULD defeat the purpose of getting a big screen TV... while we are at it, lets colorize the first part of the wizard of oz shall we?

If you MUST, most widescreen TVs have a "zoom" function
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:47 PM   #20
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Don't want to see black bars? The solution is to have a true home theater. Get yourself an HD front projector with a decent zoom and/or anamorphic lens and add a 2.4:1 screen of a decent size.

I have a Panasonic PT-AX100U projector that can throw a picture up to 16 feet wide to a custom screen, and I am NEVER bothered with black bars because the picture height remains the same regardless of the aspect ratio of the film we're watching. With the horsepower of 2000 lumens provided by the Panasonic projector's lamp, the projected image is so bright and sharp that it looks like we're watching a huge plasma screen in a darkened room.
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