Can't decide: Panny 50V10 or Kuro Pro-101FD - Blu-ray Forum

snib_rock · 10-05-2009, 09:03 PM

Need some help here...there seems to be an overwhelming voice in favor of the Pioneer but I write some of that off due to the fact that those voices have been building in head count for years where as Panasonic is just recently a contender.

HDGuru has changed their rating system because of the 50V10 (or maybe because of the advertising banner panasonic is paying for) saying it is the new best...Cnet seems to still rate the Elite series better....and I can't find a head to head review.

I can get a Pro-101FD for $2160

I can get a 50V10 for $1730

What to do...what to do? Is it worth the 30% higher price? When I embarked on this endeavor it wasn't supposed to be so hard....just get the Kuro, and then this damn V10 came along.

Any help is appreciated. If anyone knows of some good reviews please forward.

Fishy · 10-05-2009, 09:55 PM

Get the Kuro. I love Panasonic and always will but as of today, the Kuro is still better.

It's just up to you if that extra bit of picture quality is worth the couple hundred dollars.

brett_day · 10-05-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishy

Get the Kuro. I love Panasonic and always will but as of today, the Kuro is still better.

It's just up to you if that extra bit of picture quality is worth the couple hundred dollars.

absolutely agree 100% Panny makes one heck of a TV but The Kuro is still King

William H Pratt · 10-05-2009, 10:35 PM

In a word: KURO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GoYanks · 10-05-2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William H Pratt

In a word: KURO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by brett_day

absolutely agree 100% Panny makes one heck of a TV but The Kuro is still King

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishy

Get the Kuro. I love Panasonic and always will but as of today, the Kuro is still better.

It's just up to you if that extra bit of picture quality is worth the couple hundred dollars.

KURO wins hands down. If it was the panny against any other company, it would be the panny.

Hammie · 10-05-2009, 10:44 PM

I'm going to against the grain here and say that you should go with the Panny. The difference, IMO, is not great enough anymore for the difference in price. Additionally, you get VieraCast which is pretty cool if you look up YouTube videos as much as my wife and I do.

I say take the difference and get some blu's or put it towards another upgrade.

sarge1976 · 10-05-2009, 11:46 PM

Get the Kuro, If you want Viera Cast just buy a Panny BD player. Thats what I did

( I just got a Panny BD80 for $199)

scweb13 · 10-06-2009, 03:10 AM

Keep in mind that the Signature Elite is only a monitor. It has no tuner or speakers, but it has the best panel available at the moment (the 500m and the 101 share the same panel) . I paid $2k for my 500M a little over 5 months ago and if I could have gotten a 101 for only $160 more, I would have jumped on it. It really is a no brainer. Go with the Pioneer.

snib_rock · 10-06-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scweb13

Keep in mind that the Signature Elite is only a monitor. It has no tuner or speakers, but it has the best panel available at the moment (the 500m and the 101 share the same panel) . I paid $2k for my 500M a little over 5 months ago and if I could have gotten a 101 for only $160 more, I would have jumped on it. It really is a no brainer. Go with the Pioneer.

Yes...I am going to go with the Pioneer, but now I have a new problem. I located the 500M new for $1460 and it comes with a table stand. Is there enough of a difference between the 500m and 101fd to justify $700 increase in price? Not to mention the free stand.

scweb13 · 10-06-2009, 04:46 PM

You can check out the differences here.
The 101 has 2 more HDMI inputs and has ISF installed on it. The 500M has an on board speaker amp (for the optional speakers) and can get ISF with a patch from ControlCal. They both use the same panel (with some integrated 10th gen tech) but the 101's glass is hand picked.
The free stand is always a bonus.

snib_rock · 10-06-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scweb13

You can check out the differences here.
The 101 has 2 more HDMI inputs and has ISF installed on it. The 500M has an on board speaker amp (for the optional speakers) and can get ISF with a patch from ControlCal. They both use the same panel (with some integrated 10th gen tech) but the 101's glass is hand picked.
The free stand is always a bonus.

500M it is

Hand picked glass isn't worth $700 to me....and I can get the patch and still be $600 ahead...well not necessarily ahead as that money will be going towards a new receiver.

Now I just need to find an elite emblem on ebay...

jpk197233 · 10-06-2009, 06:56 PM

Snib...where are you getting the V10 for that price, if you don't mind me asking?

snib_rock · 10-06-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jpk197233

Snib...where are you getting the V10 for that price, if you don't mind me asking?

The V10 is on amazon from a vendor called Electronics Experience out of New Jersey....that price included insurance/shipping.

I thought for sure I was going to get it, but it would we be silly to pass up on the krp-500m.....an ebay dealer has 10 left and selling them for $1399 +200 shipping. There is a way you can use bing search engine and get 8% off a buy it now purchase....so that is the way I am going...or actually I am happy to say that is they way I went!

(you can use ebates.com to get another 2% off)

agoofykindasuperman · 10-06-2009, 07:23 PM

I just bought a Kuro 141FD and I love this TV!! And I haven't even plugged it in yet!!

lojack1976 · 10-06-2009, 08:19 PM

You won't be disappointed at all. I myself had hoped the V10 would match the Kuro in the hopes of getting a larger set that I would be happy with, but I've seen the V10 beside a 151FD and even though the V10 is very impressive the difference between it and the Kuro is still night and day. This is why I jumped on the KRP-500M myself. I'd rather have 50" of perfection than 58"-60" of very good. You got yours for a great price too. I paid $1700 myself with the tabletop stand. Congrats!

sarge1976 · 10-06-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snib_rock

The V10 is on amazon from a vendor called Electronics Experience out of New Jersey....that price included insurance/shipping.

I thought for sure I was going to get it, but it would we be silly to pass up on the krp-500m.....an ebay dealer has 10 left and selling them for $1399 +200 shipping. There is a way you can use bing search engine and get 8% off a buy it now purchase....so that is the way I am going...or actually I am happy to say that is they way I went!

(you can use ebates.com to get another 2% off)

Congrats on your 500M

I'm getting mine delivered tomorrow

genkifd · 10-07-2009, 09:07 AM

no comparision Kuro by a mile

DangeRuss · 11-02-2009, 10:40 AM

In the spring of 2008, I was shopping for a plasma panel and due to my finances, It boiled down to 2 sets the Panasonic PZ800U ($2200 at the time) or the PZ850U ($2500). I choose the PZ800U primarily because of the THX certification. I'm extremely happy with it. I'm still in awe everytime I fire it up with some HD material. That being said ,there truly is something about the Kuro TV's that but them on another level...something quite orgasmic

in fact. Without hesitation ,I'd buy the Pioneer. Especially at the price I paid for my Panasonic last year.

cdot2four · 11-02-2009, 11:44 AM

I'd go with the panasonic. God forbid 2 years from now you have a issue with the tv how would they replace it? My friends sony crapped out and they sent him a brand new tv pioneer won't have anything new to send out

MikeDaWiz · 11-02-2009, 11:49 AM

Kuro. I wish i had the money to buy one.

10-05-2009, 09:03 PM	#1
snib_rock New Member Member since:Oct 2009	Can't decide: Panny 50V10 or Kuro Pro-101FD Need some help here...there seems to be an overwhelming voice in favor of the Pioneer but I write some of that off due to the fact that those voices have been building in head count for years where as Panasonic is just recently a contender. HDGuru has changed their rating system because of the 50V10 (or maybe because of the advertising banner panasonic is paying for) saying it is the new best...Cnet seems to still rate the Elite series better....and I can't find a head to head review. I can get a Pro-101FD for $2160 I can get a 50V10 for $1730 What to do...what to do? Is it worth the 30% higher price? When I embarked on this endeavor it wasn't supposed to be so hard....just get the Kuro, and then this damn V10 came along. Any help is appreciated. If anyone knows of some good reviews please forward.

11-02-2009, 10:40 AM	#18
DangeRuss Blu-ray Grand Duke Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:The "Boogie Down" Home Theater Gallery:230 Blu-ray collection:470 DVD collection:354 Blu-ray reviews: 74	I hate to say this..........but honestly In the spring of 2008, I was shopping for a plasma panel and due to my finances, It boiled down to 2 sets the Panasonic PZ800U ($2200 at the time) or the PZ850U ($2500). I choose the PZ800U primarily because of the THX certification. I'm extremely happy with it. I'm still in awe everytime I fire it up with some HD material. That being said ,there truly is something about the Kuro TV's that but them on another level...something quite orgasmic in fact. Without hesitation ,I'd buy the Pioneer. Especially at the price I paid for my Panasonic last year.

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10-05-2009, 09:55 PM	#2
Fishy Active Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Mississauga, Ontario Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	Get the Kuro. I love Panasonic and always will but as of today, the Kuro is still better. It's just up to you if that extra bit of picture quality is worth the couple hundred dollars.

10-05-2009, 10:35 PM	#4
William H Pratt Active Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Toledo, OH	In a word: KURO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-05-2009, 10:44 PM	#6
Hammie Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Washington, DC Metro Home Theater Gallery:53 Blu-ray collection:545 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:12	I'm going to against the grain here and say that you should go with the Panny. The difference, IMO, is not great enough anymore for the difference in price. Additionally, you get VieraCast which is pretty cool if you look up YouTube videos as much as my wife and I do. I say take the difference and get some blu's or put it towards another upgrade.

10-05-2009, 11:46 PM	#7
sarge1976 Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Shillington,PA Home Theater Gallery:22 Blu-ray collection:1038 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:4	Get the Kuro, If you want Viera Cast just buy a Panny BD player. Thats what I did ( I just got a Panny BD80 for $199)

10-06-2009, 03:10 AM	#8
scweb13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Everett, WA 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:512 DVD collection:29 Trading Score:4	Keep in mind that the Signature Elite is only a monitor. It has no tuner or speakers, but it has the best panel available at the moment (the 500m and the 101 share the same panel) . I paid $2k for my 500M a little over 5 months ago and if I could have gotten a 101 for only $160 more, I would have jumped on it. It really is a no brainer. Go with the Pioneer.

10-06-2009, 04:46 PM	#10
scweb13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Everett, WA 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:512 DVD collection:29 Trading Score:4	You can check out the differences here. The 101 has 2 more HDMI inputs and has ISF installed on it. The 500M has an on board speaker amp (for the optional speakers) and can get ISF with a patch from ControlCal. They both use the same panel (with some integrated 10th gen tech) but the 101's glass is hand picked. The free stand is always a bonus.

10-06-2009, 06:56 PM	#12
jpk197233 New Member Member since:Sep 2009	Snib...where are you getting the V10 for that price, if you don't mind me asking?

10-06-2009, 07:23 PM	#14
agoofykindasuperman Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:620 Blu-ray collection:2047 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:178	I just bought a Kuro 141FD and I love this TV!! And I haven't even plugged it in yet!!

10-06-2009, 08:19 PM	#15
lojack1976 Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2008 Location:7 Cities, VA Home Theater Gallery:62 Blu-ray collection:203	You won't be disappointed at all. I myself had hoped the V10 would match the Kuro in the hopes of getting a larger set that I would be happy with, but I've seen the V10 beside a 151FD and even though the V10 is very impressive the difference between it and the Kuro is still night and day. This is why I jumped on the KRP-500M myself. I'd rather have 50" of perfection than 58"-60" of very good. You got yours for a great price too. I paid $1700 myself with the tabletop stand. Congrats!

10-07-2009, 09:07 AM	#17
genkifd Active Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:259	no comparision Kuro by a mile

11-02-2009, 11:44 AM	#19
cdot2four Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Metro Detroit PSN:cdot2four Blu-ray collection:158 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	I'd go with the panasonic. God forbid 2 years from now you have a issue with the tv how would they replace it? My friends sony crapped out and they sent him a brand new tv pioneer won't have anything new to send out

11-02-2009, 11:49 AM	#20
MikeDaWiz Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Corpus Christi, TX Home Theater Gallery:25 Blu-ray collection:368 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:4	Kuro. I wish i had the money to buy one.

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