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Why do they sell TV's smaller then 50" in 1080p? according to you guy's the screen must be ove 46" for anyone to even see a diffirence. Yet there are 32" sets that are 1080p. How can a tv that small hold 1080p lines of resolutione. Why you guys say it has to be 46" or higher to make a diffirence.
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There are popular opinions on this board that are...well, dumb. One of them is that there is no place for the extra processing features found in all modern HDTVs, and that if you actually have any of them turned on, you are spitting in the director's face. Please. They have their place, and while some are poorly implemented, others can greatly enhance your personal viewing experience...and after all, you paid for it. Also, something tells me that Mr. Spielberg couldn't care less whether I crank my tint so far out that ET looks like he's green. Another one is that 1080p is only a benefit on a gigantic screen, when viewed from an arm's length. Again, please. That chart that people like to post whenever this discussion comes up is BS. The possibility that you may not be able to distinguish between the actual lines of resolution at certain screen sizes/viewing distances does not translate into seeing no difference at all. Overall picture clarity, whether seen as a whole, or in certain detailed elements, is better in 1080. I've seen it for myself. The shine of a body of water is better. The texture of someone's skin on a closeup is better. Hair...better. Now, if you want to save money and buy a 720p display because it's going to produce a picture that's fantastic (it will), and will serve your needs well, then please do. But people should really stop trying to justify that fact by convincing themselves, then others, that it's just as good as 1080p, whether due to screen size or viewing distance, because it isn't. Just be ok with your gear and move on. Last edited by Deciazulado; 11-19-2009 at 02:28 AM. |
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Actually, what I posted is fact not opinion. I sit approximately 8 feet from my 1080P 40" TV. Would I see more detail if I moved closer, would I lose more detail if I moved further away? Would I see more detail if I had a larger screen, would I lose more detail if I decreased screen size? I think to answer no to any of those "opinions" would be well.....dumb.
I bought 1080P, because I wanted the best possible resolution no matter where I sit. And no, I don't believe that chart always holds true. But to say you can see a difference between 720P and 1080P on an iPhone from 20 feet away (extreme circumstance), well that's the bullsh*t. Not trying to justify my purchase, because I own a 1080P TV. Last edited by JasonR; 11-18-2009 at 12:16 PM. |
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Saying that, I do not dispute the fact that 1080p is better for the larger sizes of TV and projectors. |
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http://hometheatermag.com/flat-panels/208hdface/
There were 7 HDTV's in a shoot-out here, 6 of them are 1080p. The 720p panel won. Not surprisingly it was a Pioneer Kuro, the PDP-5080FD. Narrowly behind was the TH-50PZ750U 1080p panel from Panasonic. If all things are equal other than the panel then the difference between 720p and 1080p does come down to viewing distance and of course source, that's simple human science; however it's rare that a company makes a 720p panel identical to another 1080p panel produced outside of panel resolution which is why it's not advisable to choose a TV just based on panel resolution, but rather on all it's factors combined...ANSI contrast, motion resolution, calibration options, processing capabilities, these things are all more important than me than panel resolution but with today's pricing and availability of 1080p panels it's pretty much a moot point. Last edited by dobyblue; 11-18-2009 at 02:00 PM. |
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native resolution support always provides the best quality. As in no conversion or downsampling. If you put a 1080p signal into a 1080p device there is no conversion and you get 1080p. If you dump a 1080p signal into a 720p device there is some type of conversion going on in order for the TV to display the video in its native format.
At less than 46" Tv will you be able to see the difference or not I am not sure. But whenever you do any type of conversion with audio or images/video you always loose some data/quality. If done right this loss is not noticeable to the naked eye but there still usually is some type of loss. Same reason why you would want to stick with an all digital path and not use analog cables as you convert and loose quality. also similar reasoning why you want a TV that can handle a 24hz source because the blu-rays are in this format and if you Tv can handle this format or evenly handle it (times 5 and not 3/2 pulldown) then the quality if better. There may also be some cost savings during manufacturing. why produce eletronics to support 720p and 1080p when you can jsut product 1080p products. Fewer componants equals fewer different parts and manufacturing lines for the company. Last edited by slaizer2000; 11-18-2009 at 02:34 PM. |
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Choose the one with the best specs, research it. Panel resolution isn't the #1 thing to look for regardless of size.
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