Klipsch Synergy SUB-12 or JBL ES250PBK - Blu-ray Forum

SlaughterX · 11-18-2009, 10:21 PM

I am in the market for a new sub and so far I think I've narrowed it down between these too. The JBL is $40 cheaper... but I'm not sure if it's more powerful thant he Klipsch sub or not (Amazon says the JBL is 400 watts, but it doesn't say if that's the RMS or the peak), where as the Klipsch is 300 watts RMS, 650 peak (or dynamic, as they say). The Klipsch is also downfiring, though I wouldn't say if that is better of worse (the sub I'm replacing is a much less powerful downfiring Boston Acoustic sub). If there is anything else better in this price range (no more than $400) I'm open to more options...

Twitch9 · 11-18-2009, 10:43 PM

I wouldn't buy either, better subs out there for the money. Paradigm, SVS, ED ect. you will get a full list soon by other users.

This would be my choice in your price range and would kill both the subs you mentioned.

http://www.paradigm.com/en/paradigm/...-5-24.paradigm

CallingMrBenzo · 11-18-2009, 10:57 PM

+ 1 to what he said. stay away from both you can do far better for your money

check out ed and hsu's website they both have offerings in your price range

progers13 · 11-18-2009, 11:37 PM

+1 to Elemental Designs. The eD A2-300 is 12" downfiring, $350 shipped.

SlaughterX · 11-19-2009, 05:13 AM

I'd like to stick to something offered by Amazon as I have a lot of promo credit there already. I didn't see the Paradigm sub on their site...

HAMP · 11-19-2009, 07:54 AM

I can speak for the Klipsch Sub-12 and I can tell you it hits hard. I loved it so much I had to get two of them. If there is a Bestbuy near you, you can go listen to one of them.

Cpt_Dylan_Hunt · 11-19-2009, 12:40 PM

The Energy ESW-V10 is 300 watts rms, 1200 watts peak, and extends down to 23hz +/- 3db. It's also a really tight and "musical" sub.

http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...pecifications/

I've seen it as low as $299 USD.

ak_ka · 11-19-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAMP

I can speak for the Klipsch Sub-12 and I can tell you it hits hard. I loved it so much I had to get two of them. If there is a Bestbuy near you, you can go listen to one of them.

Thats true. I listened to this guy, and am not disappointed

. I got mine for $300. Check out Best Buys near your place, they're on clearance these days.

CallingMrBenzo · 11-19-2009, 09:47 PM

use your amazon credit for something else.. i could never purchase something knowing that i could get a lot more sub for the money if i went else where...

this is something you wont regret, im not hating on those subs mentioned but the ed and hsu's will out perform them

mj79 · 11-20-2009, 02:33 AM

I have a one month old, perfect condition klipsch sub 12 im trying to sell on ebay as we speak..

krazeyeyez · 11-20-2009, 05:31 AM

Well this doesn't help if you plan on going through amazon, but i will second that vote for the paradigm DSP sub, i actually had purchased that sub, and it was too much for my apartment at the time lol.

Had it two days and had to take it back for the more subtle ultracube. But that Sub posted above definitely new how to shake the house, i regret the trade in now as i could definitely get away with that where i am living now.

SlaughterX · 11-28-2009, 06:12 AM

Well I went ahead and went with the MartinLogan DYNBLD Dynamo 10-Inch Subwoofer since it was on sale for $325. Not as big or as powerful as the other speakers, but I'm guess it has a better build quality which should make it a better speaker? it's got some pretty good reviews so I'm sure I will be pleased with it either way, I might get a couple of those floor standers that are on sale for $500 this weekend to go along with it...

mj79 · 11-28-2009, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

Well I went ahead and went with the MartinLogan DYNBLD Dynamo 10-Inch Subwoofer since it was on sale for $325. Not as big or as powerful as the other speakers, but I'm guess it has a better build quality which should make it a better speaker? it's got some pretty good reviews so I'm sure I will be pleased with it either way, I might get a couple of those floor standers that are on sale for $500 this weekend to go along with it...

Let the eD A2-300 suggestions start coming

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=407

Nice buy tho.. I looked at the ML as well, but I had a BB giftcard , so thats the reason I didnt get something better or do my Tempest build

lojack1976 · 11-28-2009, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

Well I went ahead and went with the MartinLogan DYNBLD Dynamo 10-Inch Subwoofer since it was on sale for $325. Not as big or as powerful as the other speakers, but I'm guess it has a better build quality which should make it a better speaker? it's got some pretty good reviews so I'm sure I will be pleased with it either way, I might get a couple of those floor standers that are on sale for $500 this weekend to go along with it...

That's a very good sub...definitely better than either of the other two. It doesn't get as low as some others out there, but its sound quality and tightness is pretty superb. Its a very musical sub that I'm sure you will love. You may want to get a second one if you have a larger room. I myself run two subs to get a more even response across the room and the results are excellent. Congrats on the new sub!

CallingMrBenzo · 11-28-2009, 04:27 PM

great choice man, let us know how that lil thing sounds

JJ · 11-28-2009, 06:58 PM

Great choice. I'm glad to see the Dynamo down to a more manageable price range.

ZIPPO · 11-28-2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

Well I went ahead and went with the MartinLogan DYNBLD Dynamo 10-Inch Subwoofer since it was on sale for $325. .

Thanks for the heads up! I've been waiting for this to drop back down, so I could get a second one.

SlaughterX · 12-01-2009, 10:10 PM

Well I got it today and... wow, such a huge improvement over my old 8" 100 watt Boston Acoustics sub. I would have to say that this one speaker made the single most noticable improvement in my entire HT, and I haven't even watched a movie yet! I listened to the radio just to make sure it was working, then I played Forza 3 and even with the thin turned up about 40% it sounds worlds better than my old sub, much clearer and with much more thump. I think I made the right choice.

CallingMrBenzo · 12-05-2009, 06:55 PM

sounds like you did

now watch a few movies and tell us how it sounds, and take some pics!!!

11-18-2009, 10:21 PM	#1
SlaughterX Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Marion, IL Home Theater Gallery:26 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1089 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:1	Klipsch Synergy SUB-12 or JBL ES250PBK I am in the market for a new sub and so far I think I've narrowed it down between these too. The JBL is $40 cheaper... but I'm not sure if it's more powerful thant he Klipsch sub or not (Amazon says the JBL is 400 watts, but it doesn't say if that's the RMS or the peak), where as the Klipsch is 300 watts RMS, 650 peak (or dynamic, as they say). The Klipsch is also downfiring, though I wouldn't say if that is better of worse (the sub I'm replacing is a much less powerful downfiring Boston Acoustic sub). If there is anything else better in this price range (no more than $400) I'm open to more options...

11-18-2009, 10:43 PM	#2
Twitch9 Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:83 Blu-ray collection:49 Blu-ray reviews:16 Trading Score:2	I wouldn't buy either, better subs out there for the money. Paradigm, SVS, ED ect. you will get a full list soon by other users. This would be my choice in your price range and would kill both the subs you mentioned. http://www.paradigm.com/en/paradigm/...-5-24.paradigm Last edited by Twitch9; 11-18-2009 at 10:46 PM.

11-19-2009, 12:40 PM	#7
Cpt_Dylan_Hunt Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Calgary AB	The Energy ESW-V10 is 300 watts rms, 1200 watts peak, and extends down to 23hz +/- 3db. It's also a really tight and "musical" sub. http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...pecifications/ I've seen it as low as $299 USD. Last edited by Cpt_Dylan_Hunt; 11-19-2009 at 12:48 PM.

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11-18-2009, 10:57 PM	#3
CallingMrBenzo Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:35 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:2	+ 1 to what he said. stay away from both you can do far better for your money check out ed and hsu's website they both have offerings in your price range

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11-19-2009, 05:13 AM	#5
SlaughterX Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Marion, IL Home Theater Gallery:26 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1089 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:1	I'd like to stick to something offered by Amazon as I have a lot of promo credit there already. I didn't see the Paradigm sub on their site...

11-19-2009, 07:54 AM	#6
HAMP Banned Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Michigan Home Theater Gallery:13 Blu-ray collection:272 Trading Score:1	I can speak for the Klipsch Sub-12 and I can tell you it hits hard. I loved it so much I had to get two of them. If there is a Bestbuy near you, you can go listen to one of them.

11-19-2009, 09:47 PM	#9
CallingMrBenzo Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:35 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:2	use your amazon credit for something else.. i could never purchase something knowing that i could get a lot more sub for the money if i went else where... this is something you wont regret, im not hating on those subs mentioned but the ed and hsu's will out perform them

11-20-2009, 02:33 AM	#10
mj79 Banned Member since:Jun 2009 Location:San Antonio/ Duluth Mn	I have a one month old, perfect condition klipsch sub 12 im trying to sell on ebay as we speak..

11-20-2009, 05:31 AM	#11
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	Well this doesn't help if you plan on going through amazon, but i will second that vote for the paradigm DSP sub, i actually had purchased that sub, and it was too much for my apartment at the time lol. Had it two days and had to take it back for the more subtle ultracube. But that Sub posted above definitely new how to shake the house, i regret the trade in now as i could definitely get away with that where i am living now.

11-28-2009, 06:12 AM	#12
SlaughterX Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Marion, IL Home Theater Gallery:26 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1089 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:1	Well I went ahead and went with the MartinLogan DYNBLD Dynamo 10-Inch Subwoofer since it was on sale for $325. Not as big or as powerful as the other speakers, but I'm guess it has a better build quality which should make it a better speaker? it's got some pretty good reviews so I'm sure I will be pleased with it either way, I might get a couple of those floor standers that are on sale for $500 this weekend to go along with it...

11-28-2009, 04:27 PM	#15
CallingMrBenzo Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:35 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:2	great choice man, let us know how that lil thing sounds

11-28-2009, 06:58 PM	#16
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:624 Blu-ray collection:1298 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Great choice. I'm glad to see the Dynamo down to a more manageable price range.

12-01-2009, 10:10 PM	#18
SlaughterX Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Marion, IL Home Theater Gallery:26 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1089 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:1	Well I got it today and... wow, such a huge improvement over my old 8" 100 watt Boston Acoustics sub. I would have to say that this one speaker made the single most noticable improvement in my entire HT, and I haven't even watched a movie yet! I listened to the radio just to make sure it was working, then I played Forza 3 and even with the thin turned up about 40% it sounds worlds better than my old sub, much clearer and with much more thump. I think I made the right choice.

12-05-2009, 06:55 PM	#19
CallingMrBenzo Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:35 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:2	sounds like you did now watch a few movies and tell us how it sounds, and take some pics!!!

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