PS3 VS Xbox 360 Elite - Blu-ray Forum

Tyler Durden · 10-05-2007, 08:13 AM

Ok, don't crucify me, but currently I own both of these systems.

I first bought a PS3 and a Sony Bravia X series about 7 months ago, and fast established that blu-ray was possibly one of the greatest things ever invented.

I also established that whilst the ps3 has an "upcoming exclusives" list to die for, it pretty much had jack shit in the way of good quality, enjoyable video games.

My younger brother had purchased an Xbox Pro about a year before this, and had been playing it on a cathode ray television, hence, it didn't exactly blow my socks off especially when I factored in that it didn't even have a ready to gop HDMI output.

However, after enjoying my blu-ray's for about 4 months or so, I was really starting to hanker for some solid console gaming action, and Gears of War had been playing on my mind heavily. Often I would be playing Mortal Kombat 2 on my ps3 thinking "I really think that $1,000.00 was slightly too much for an emulator I could have downloaded for free".

So once the Xbox 360 Elite came out, it was instant caving in for me. I traded in my ps2 and my Xbox, and about 45 games, and picked up my brand spanking 360 Elite and a couple of games.

After playing with the 360 for just over a fortnight, I have concluded the following points in favour of each system, in a completely unbiased fashion:

NOTE: I've owned every major console ever made apart from the Panasonic 3DO and the Atari Jaguar - I have no allegiance and feel I'm fairly unbiased.

PS3

Pros:

1. Excellent all around piece of hardware, once you buy it, you don't need to do anything to optimize it or bring it up to speed. Kind of like as if it's from the not too distant future. Excellent interconnectivity with mp3 players, portable hard drives etc.

2. Raw Power. You can tell from some of the upcoming games that this machine means serious business (it's pretty much tha internetz) and that no other machine can match it pound for pound.

3. Free online service. Definitely a bonus.

4. Upcoming exclusives. I really think Sony has it over Microsoft in this one. But I'll devote a para to exclusives in a bit.

5. Blu-Ray. Probably the last thing I considered when purchasing machine has probably been the one reason I don't regret purchasing it at this stage. Massive fan of the technology.

Cons:

1. Online service, thus far, is vastly inferior to Microsoft's. Sure it's free, but functionality it lags a bit. Not to mention, with far fewer sales in the main english speaking markets (Aus/US/Europe) online gaming with the ps3 just doesn't have the same fanatical feeling it does with the xbox.

2. Games. There is still largely bugger all in the way of quality titles. Folklore seems pretty cool though, but at time of writing this, Heavenly Sword and Warhawk are probably the best games out. Compare that to the 360 having Bioshock, Gears of War and Halo 3. Serious issue for the ps3 thus far.

Summary: Whilst only having two real cons I can think of, the PS3 is still struggling through its first year. The two Cons being severe disadvantages for any gamer who is considering a purchase.

360

Pros:

1. Games. Not only does it have the three best next gen titles made so far in Halo 3, Gears of War and Bioshock, but it still has some big guns coming up in Mass Effect and the Rare titles in development. Factor in some additional bonus content for GTA as well as Project Gotham and Forza 2 and Microsoft have developed a nice little cadre of exclusive third parties. Many of the third party titles available on both systems seem to have been designed primarily for the 360 too i.e. every EA sports title I've seen looks better on the 360, and speaking of sports titles...

2. Online Service. This is how online console gaming was meant to be done. I can't imagine anyone choosing to play a sports game on the ps3 online service when they can play it on the 360's.

CONS:

1. No hard drive (well, mine has one being the elite model, but anyway). I have no idea who was in charge of this decision, but it wasn't smart.

2. Price. I know, I know, technically the 360 is cheaper, but look at it this way, even when you purchase the "Elite" model, there are still some glaring omissions that the PS3 has, that don't appear on the 360 without extra cost. The following example is in Aussie Dollars (roughly 90 cents USD).

PS3 60 gig: $1,000 6 months ago (can get the 40 gig for less now, and most places will throw in Motorstom and R: FOM and a second controller for nothing)

360 Elite: $720 + HD-DVD add on $300 + Wireless add on $100 + online service for one year (being generous) $90 = $1,210

Massive loss for the 360, mind you, most idiots don't realise this until it's too late.

3. Dipshits. Whilst having a much wider community online, I must say, playing Halo 3 online is kind of a babysitting/video game hybrid rather than a fully immersive online experience.

4. Longevity. There is no way this console will be around in 6 years time. Mark it down. This thing is cheap, nasty AND a lot of fun. I had a girlfriend like that once. Operative word being HAD.

Summary: The 360 does the online thing well, and has the best games available right now. Whilst some will claim the multiple add-ons give consumers the choice in what aspects they purchase, I think it limits what they can do with their console and also is largely an excuse to wring more dollars out of the consumer.

So as you can see, in this humble consumers mind the 360 is providing more enjoyment right now, and was definitely an good purchase with many excellent games already available and scheduled to arrive shortly (as well as a kickass online service). But the ps3 will come into its own very shortly I'd wager.

Just as a bit of a note, I'm fairly confident the upcoming ps3 games WILL be better than the exclusive franchises Microsoft have. Just looking at the heavyweights:

360:
1. Bioshock
2. Gears of War
3. Halo
4. forza
5. PGR
6. Mass Effect

Microsoft are clearly focused on FPS and driving games, which is fine with me because I like both genres... massive problem for Microsoft is...

PS3
1. Haze
2. Killzone 2
3. Gran Turismo
4. LittleBigPlanet
5. Final Fantasy
6. White Knight

PS3's upcoming shooters are looking to be every bit as good as MS's. Mind you, I can't see either Killzone or Haze having the same size multiplayer community as Halo, but I am almost positive they'll have better co-op and single player.

Gran Turismo just looks light years ahead of anything on the Xbox, and Sony have definitely got the JRPG market cornered.

either way, there'll be ripping games on both consoles, I just think Sony have the edge. The only stumbling block I envisage is Microsoft seem to have less problem with throwing money at existing third parties, whereas Sony seem to be preferring to develop in house more. That could be an issue long term, especially if Microsoft were to buy someone like EA or 2K.

Anyway, for the next year I think the 360 will retain it's spot at the top, and slowly decline after that. The PS3 is up for a very exciting year, especially with the price reduction. I just hope they can start releasing the killer games so that we can have a real console war.

Anyway, that rant was huge. If you managed to read the whole thing, have this gold star.

david2189 · 10-05-2007, 08:26 AM

what youve got to remember is the playstation has been about for nowhere near aslong as the 360 has, therefore theres more developers using the 360 and theyre more used to working with the 360. im sure if you would have bought a 360 when it first came out you would have had the exact same problem with games, but as you mentioned there are loads of big titles coming out soon so it shows my point really. anyway i bought both consoles at the same time (2 months ago) and so far the ps3 is vastly superior in my opinion.

also you mentioned a con of the ps3 having less online features, dont know if youve heard of it already or not but Playstation Home will be out soon and you can watch a video on youtube about it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0

some fair points tho

Lord_Stewie · 10-05-2007, 08:29 AM

ok. you are officially crucified!!!

I think with the new 40 GB PS3 this holiday season is worth watching very close. I own both PS3 (STILL AND GLADLY ON THE FIRST GEN PS3) VS. Xbox 360 (on my 7th or 8th one, i don't remember. I lost count.) I think this holiday season will contribute very largely to the victory of BD over HDDVD.

Tyler Durden · 10-05-2007, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david2189

what youve got to remember is the playstation has been about for nowhere near aslong as the 360 has, therefore theres more developers using the 360 and theyre more used to working with the 360. im sure if you would have bought a 360 when it first came out you would have had the exact same problem with games, but as you mentioned there are loads of big titles coming out soon so it shows my point really. anyway i bought both consoles at the same time (2 months ago) and so far the ps3 is vastly superior in my opinion.

also you mentioned a con of the ps3 having less online features, dont know if youve heard of it already or not but Playstation Home will be out soon and you can watch a video on youtube about it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0

some fair points tho

Home seems cool for what it does etc. but I kind of think it's a bit over the top. I like the achievements etc but the whole "second Life" stuff seems a bit of a time waster.

I should make the point I'm really comparing them as games consoles only, because as pieces of hardware, it's simply no contest, PS3 wins by a mile.

JLaSoul · 10-05-2007, 08:35 AM

so will the new 40 gig ps3 have that problem everyone was talking about, not being able to be backward compatible with alot of ps1and2 games. if so I think i will just buy another 60 gig before they sell out, even a 20 gig since they both have that same chip.

MOONPHASE · 10-05-2007, 08:38 AM

the playstation 3 has folding@home and the 360 does not and folding@home is like one of the best things ever and plus with it being on a playstation 3 it makes it more worth it that way its just not a gaming machine

w_tanoto · 10-05-2007, 08:46 AM

I won't crucify you lol. everybody has his/her own opinion. I am in agreement with you that PSN is currently nothing compared to XBOX live, but it's growing.
The games selection is still crap, but more good games are scheduled (FFXIII, anybody?)

and yes, xbox360 has a short life, but I think I consider buying one as media centre extension (maybe after a price drop)

stringent · 10-05-2007, 09:44 AM

Another con for XBox, no built in WiFi, EVEN on the Elite model. Elite basically means 120GB hard drive and HDMI. Should have been called XBox 360 Pro Premium, or something.

Sony is playing catch up in the Online stuff, but I think Home will blow the MS thing away when it gets launched.

I would like to see support for NAS boxes on the PS3 as storage, rather than load a USB drive or external hard disk. Also connect to shared drives on PC's as well.

I'll see how prices are for the 360 after Christmas. Might get one for the office for the heck of it!

Smallville206 · 10-05-2007, 09:52 AM

I also have both and enjoy them both, but do believe in the end the PS3 is the better machine, now if they just have to start putting out the must have exclusive games.

Ascended_Saiyan · 10-05-2007, 09:54 AM

I was surprised that MGS4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, SOCOM, Tekken 6, etc were left out of that PS3 line up. The PS3 has 33 exclusive games that should come out between now and around the next 12 months!

The 360 has the trendy gaming buzz right now, but after Dec. will belong to the PS3. Plus, ALL PS3 retail games are in HD.

Xbox Live is a great, but it's P2P only (laggy) for gaming. The download service is really nice. When "Home" arrives and takes shape, it will provide EVERYTHING Xbox Live is and much more.

I just had to get that out.

Tyler Durden · 10-05-2007, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stringent

Another con for XBox, no built in WiFi, EVEN on the Elite model. Elite basically means 120GB hard drive and HDMI. Should have been called XBox 360 Pro Premium, or something.

Sony is playing catch up in the Online stuff, but I think Home will blow the MS thing away when it gets launched.

I would like to see support for NAS boxes on the PS3 as storage, rather than load a USB drive or external hard disk. Also connect to shared drives on PC's as well.

I'll see how prices are for the 360 after Christmas. Might get one for the office for the heck of it!

I mentioned the WiFi thing, how it costs an extra 100.

Tyler Durden · 10-05-2007, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

I was surprised that MGS4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, SOCOM, Tekken 6, etc were left out of that PS3 line up. The PS3 has 33 exclusive games that should come out between now and around the next 12 months!

The 360 has the trendy gaming buzz right now, but after Dec. will belong to the PS3. Plus, ALL PS3 retail games are in HD.

Xbox Live is a great, but it's P2P only (laggy) for gaming. The download service is really nice. When "Home" arrives and takes shape, it will provide EVERYTHING Xbox Live is and much more.

I just had to get that out.

Well, beign an Australian I experience lag worse than most, and can see, that without fail Halo 3 NEVER lags. Not in the slightest.

Now playing a 1 on 1 game like, Fight Night for example, on PS3 against someone in europe or America, I can't play the game the lag is just shocking.

I'm tipping the ps3 network will probably improve for me as more Aussies get on board and start picking up PS3's in better numbers though.

stringent · 10-05-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

I mentioned the WiFi thing, how it costs an extra 100.

Missed that bit! Too tired!

The PS3 also has the PSU built in rather than a separate brick. MS should have addressed all the cooling issues with the premium too.

maximiza · 10-05-2007, 10:31 AM

I think you left out your opinion on the Blu-ray, HD-DVD comparisons. Why?

Petra_Kalbrain · 10-05-2007, 11:17 AM

Watch the video at the link below for a much more entertaining and all inclusive opinion of this ENTIRE console war. Although I severly disagree with him when it comes to his Blu-ray comment, he makes some good points. Ultimately though, the real enjoyment in this is the guys humour.

BE WARNED... LANGUAGE!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...onsole-Rundown

Teazle · 10-05-2007, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

3. Dipshits. Whilst having a much wider community online, I must say, playing Halo 3 online is kind of a babysitting/video game hybrid rather than a fully immersive online experience.

4. Longevity. There is no way this console will be around in 6 years time. Mark it down. This thing is cheap, nasty AND a lot of fun. I had a girlfriend like that once. Operative word being HAD.

Hilarious! You don't often see writing this good on the subject of video games.

That short essay is a great summation of the state of play on PS3 vs 360. Thanks for a comprehensive and articulate post.

victorvondoom88 · 10-05-2007, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Watch the video at the link below for a much more entertaining and all inclusive opinion of this ENTIRE console war. Although I severly disagree with him when it comes to his Blu-ray comment, he makes some good points. Ultimately though, the real enjoyment in this is the guys humour.

BE WARNED... LANGUAGE!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...onsole-Rundown

That link was hilarious!

Like you said I think he is way off on the blu-ray movie part but the rest was pretty damn funny.

victorvondoom88 · 10-05-2007, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximiza

I think you left out your opinion on the Blu-ray, HD-DVD comparisons. Why?

Maybe because there is no comparison???

I'll wager he didn't spring for the hd-dvd add-on.

SS316SRV · 10-05-2007, 12:15 PM

Why does anybody think that there is a console war? Two consoles can coexist comfortablely. There have been multiple consoles on the market for ages. Xbox 360 (I am an owner) is not an HD DVD player, you have to get an addon that wont even play all the discs. The PS3 is a blu-ray player. For me I know that the PS3 is a better console overall. I am not that big of a gamer so I really don't care that much. I did just get a $1150 bonus from work, so I might be getting a 40gig PS3.

Ascended_Saiyan · 10-05-2007, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

Well, beign an Australian I experience lag worse than most, and can see, that without fail Halo 3 NEVER lags. Not in the slightest.

Now playing a 1 on 1 game like, Fight Night for example, on PS3 against someone in europe or America, I can't play the game the lag is just shocking.

I'm tipping the ps3 network will probably improve for me as more Aussies get on board and start picking up PS3's in better numbers though.

Maybe there are no dedicated servers within 300 hops of you. I use to experience plenty of lag on Xbox Live when I had the system. I only time I start to experience a little lag is when I play Warhawk on a few P2P connections (other people's PS3s via their ISPs).

I guess, in your case, you have to wait for more PS3 owners or a dedicated server pops up in your general range.

10-05-2007, 08:13 AM	#1
Tyler Durden Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Melbourne, AUSTRALIA	PS3 VS Xbox 360 Elite Ok, don't crucify me, but currently I own both of these systems. I first bought a PS3 and a Sony Bravia X series about 7 months ago, and fast established that blu-ray was possibly one of the greatest things ever invented. I also established that whilst the ps3 has an "upcoming exclusives" list to die for, it pretty much had jack shit in the way of good quality, enjoyable video games. My younger brother had purchased an Xbox Pro about a year before this, and had been playing it on a cathode ray television, hence, it didn't exactly blow my socks off especially when I factored in that it didn't even have a ready to gop HDMI output. However, after enjoying my blu-ray's for about 4 months or so, I was really starting to hanker for some solid console gaming action, and Gears of War had been playing on my mind heavily. Often I would be playing Mortal Kombat 2 on my ps3 thinking "I really think that $1,000.00 was slightly too much for an emulator I could have downloaded for free". So once the Xbox 360 Elite came out, it was instant caving in for me. I traded in my ps2 and my Xbox, and about 45 games, and picked up my brand spanking 360 Elite and a couple of games. After playing with the 360 for just over a fortnight, I have concluded the following points in favour of each system, in a completely unbiased fashion: NOTE: I've owned every major console ever made apart from the Panasonic 3DO and the Atari Jaguar - I have no allegiance and feel I'm fairly unbiased. PS3 Pros: 1. Excellent all around piece of hardware, once you buy it, you don't need to do anything to optimize it or bring it up to speed. Kind of like as if it's from the not too distant future. Excellent interconnectivity with mp3 players, portable hard drives etc. 2. Raw Power. You can tell from some of the upcoming games that this machine means serious business (it's pretty much tha internetz) and that no other machine can match it pound for pound. 3. Free online service. Definitely a bonus. 4. Upcoming exclusives. I really think Sony has it over Microsoft in this one. But I'll devote a para to exclusives in a bit. 5. Blu-Ray. Probably the last thing I considered when purchasing machine has probably been the one reason I don't regret purchasing it at this stage. Massive fan of the technology. Cons: 1. Online service, thus far, is vastly inferior to Microsoft's. Sure it's free, but functionality it lags a bit. Not to mention, with far fewer sales in the main english speaking markets (Aus/US/Europe) online gaming with the ps3 just doesn't have the same fanatical feeling it does with the xbox. 2. Games. There is still largely bugger all in the way of quality titles. Folklore seems pretty cool though, but at time of writing this, Heavenly Sword and Warhawk are probably the best games out. Compare that to the 360 having Bioshock, Gears of War and Halo 3. Serious issue for the ps3 thus far. Summary: Whilst only having two real cons I can think of, the PS3 is still struggling through its first year. The two Cons being severe disadvantages for any gamer who is considering a purchase. 360 Pros: 1. Games. Not only does it have the three best next gen titles made so far in Halo 3, Gears of War and Bioshock, but it still has some big guns coming up in Mass Effect and the Rare titles in development. Factor in some additional bonus content for GTA as well as Project Gotham and Forza 2 and Microsoft have developed a nice little cadre of exclusive third parties. Many of the third party titles available on both systems seem to have been designed primarily for the 360 too i.e. every EA sports title I've seen looks better on the 360, and speaking of sports titles... 2. Online Service. This is how online console gaming was meant to be done. I can't imagine anyone choosing to play a sports game on the ps3 online service when they can play it on the 360's. CONS: 1. No hard drive (well, mine has one being the elite model, but anyway). I have no idea who was in charge of this decision, but it wasn't smart. 2. Price. I know, I know, technically the 360 is cheaper, but look at it this way, even when you purchase the "Elite" model, there are still some glaring omissions that the PS3 has, that don't appear on the 360 without extra cost. The following example is in Aussie Dollars (roughly 90 cents USD). PS3 60 gig: $1,000 6 months ago (can get the 40 gig for less now, and most places will throw in Motorstom and R: FOM and a second controller for nothing) 360 Elite: $720 + HD-DVD add on $300 + Wireless add on $100 + online service for one year (being generous) $90 = $1,210 Massive loss for the 360, mind you, most idiots don't realise this until it's too late. 3. Dipshits. Whilst having a much wider community online, I must say, playing Halo 3 online is kind of a babysitting/video game hybrid rather than a fully immersive online experience. 4. Longevity. There is no way this console will be around in 6 years time. Mark it down. This thing is cheap, nasty AND a lot of fun. I had a girlfriend like that once. Operative word being HAD. Summary: The 360 does the online thing well, and has the best games available right now. Whilst some will claim the multiple add-ons give consumers the choice in what aspects they purchase, I think it limits what they can do with their console and also is largely an excuse to wring more dollars out of the consumer. So as you can see, in this humble consumers mind the 360 is providing more enjoyment right now, and was definitely an good purchase with many excellent games already available and scheduled to arrive shortly (as well as a kickass online service). But the ps3 will come into its own very shortly I'd wager. Just as a bit of a note, I'm fairly confident the upcoming ps3 games WILL be better than the exclusive franchises Microsoft have. Just looking at the heavyweights: 360: 1. Bioshock 2. Gears of War 3. Halo 4. forza 5. PGR 6. Mass Effect Microsoft are clearly focused on FPS and driving games, which is fine with me because I like both genres... massive problem for Microsoft is... PS3 1. Haze 2. Killzone 2 3. Gran Turismo 4. LittleBigPlanet 5. Final Fantasy 6. White Knight PS3's upcoming shooters are looking to be every bit as good as MS's. Mind you, I can't see either Killzone or Haze having the same size multiplayer community as Halo, but I am almost positive they'll have better co-op and single player. Gran Turismo just looks light years ahead of anything on the Xbox, and Sony have definitely got the JRPG market cornered. either way, there'll be ripping games on both consoles, I just think Sony have the edge. The only stumbling block I envisage is Microsoft seem to have less problem with throwing money at existing third parties, whereas Sony seem to be preferring to develop in house more. That could be an issue long term, especially if Microsoft were to buy someone like EA or 2K. Anyway, for the next year I think the 360 will retain it's spot at the top, and slowly decline after that. The PS3 is up for a very exciting year, especially with the price reduction. I just hope they can start releasing the killer games so that we can have a real console war. Anyway, that rant was huge. If you managed to read the whole thing, have this gold star.

10-05-2007, 08:26 AM	#2
david2189 Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:London, UK Blu-ray collection:183	what youve got to remember is the playstation has been about for nowhere near aslong as the 360 has, therefore theres more developers using the 360 and theyre more used to working with the 360. im sure if you would have bought a 360 when it first came out you would have had the exact same problem with games, but as you mentioned there are loads of big titles coming out soon so it shows my point really. anyway i bought both consoles at the same time (2 months ago) and so far the ps3 is vastly superior in my opinion. also you mentioned a con of the ps3 having less online features, dont know if youve heard of it already or not but Playstation Home will be out soon and you can watch a video on youtube about it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0 some fair points tho Last edited by david2189; 10-05-2007 at 08:30 AM.

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Lord_Stewie Blu-ray Baron Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:396 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	ok. you are officially crucified!!! I think with the new 40 GB PS3 this holiday season is worth watching very close. I own both PS3 (STILL AND GLADLY ON THE FIRST GEN PS3) VS. Xbox 360 (on my 7th or 8th one, i don't remember. I lost count.) I think this holiday season will contribute very largely to the victory of BD over HDDVD.

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JLaSoul Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:219	so will the new 40 gig ps3 have that problem everyone was talking about, not being able to be backward compatible with alot of ps1and2 games. if so I think i will just buy another 60 gig before they sell out, even a 20 gig since they both have that same chip.

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MOONPHASE Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:California 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:520 DVD collection:820 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:29	the playstation 3 has folding@home and the 360 does not and folding@home is like one of the best things ever and plus with it being on a playstation 3 it makes it more worth it that way its just not a gaming machine

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w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	I won't crucify you lol. everybody has his/her own opinion. I am in agreement with you that PSN is currently nothing compared to XBOX live, but it's growing. The games selection is still crap, but more good games are scheduled (FFXIII, anybody?) and yes, xbox360 has a short life, but I think I consider buying one as media centre extension (maybe after a price drop)

10-05-2007, 09:44 AM	#8
stringent Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:UK	Another con for XBox, no built in WiFi, EVEN on the Elite model. Elite basically means 120GB hard drive and HDMI. Should have been called XBox 360 Pro Premium, or something. Sony is playing catch up in the Online stuff, but I think Home will blow the MS thing away when it gets launched. I would like to see support for NAS boxes on the PS3 as storage, rather than load a USB drive or external hard disk. Also connect to shared drives on PC's as well. I'll see how prices are for the 360 after Christmas. Might get one for the office for the heck of it!

10-05-2007, 09:52 AM	#9
Smallville206 Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Seattle, Washington	I also have both and enjoy them both, but do believe in the end the PS3 is the better machine, now if they just have to start putting out the must have exclusive games.

10-05-2007, 09:54 AM	#10
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	I was surprised that MGS4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, SOCOM, Tekken 6, etc were left out of that PS3 line up. The PS3 has 33 exclusive games that should come out between now and around the next 12 months! The 360 has the trendy gaming buzz right now, but after Dec. will belong to the PS3. Plus, ALL PS3 retail games are in HD. Xbox Live is a great, but it's P2P only (laggy) for gaming. The download service is really nice. When "Home" arrives and takes shape, it will provide EVERYTHING Xbox Live is and much more. I just had to get that out.

10-05-2007, 10:31 AM	#14
maximiza Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Queens Village, NYC	I think you left out your opinion on the Blu-ray, HD-DVD comparisons. Why?

10-05-2007, 11:17 AM	#15
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	Watch the video at the link below for a much more entertaining and all inclusive opinion of this ENTIRE console war. Although I severly disagree with him when it comes to his Blu-ray comment, he makes some good points. Ultimately though, the real enjoyment in this is the guys humour. BE WARNED... LANGUAGE! http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...onsole-Rundown

10-05-2007, 12:15 PM	#19
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Why does anybody think that there is a console war? Two consoles can coexist comfortablely. There have been multiple consoles on the market for ages. Xbox 360 (I am an owner) is not an HD DVD player, you have to get an addon that wont even play all the discs. The PS3 is a blu-ray player. For me I know that the PS3 is a better console overall. I am not that big of a gamer so I really don't care that much. I did just get a $1150 bonus from work, so I might be getting a 40gig PS3.

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